Are you still a Garrett supporter?

[CATCH17]

Why are you going at @Hostile when you know he doesn't post here, anymore?

Have you ever been wrong? @CATCH17, you, too, brother?

We can call out everyone for saying or proclaiming something that didn't happen.

Don't do it to one of our greatest posters and contributors, ever. It's unbecoming.

I'm sorry but you can't go on and on about how great someone is and is going to be like he did with Garrett and then just forget it ever happened.

Nothing against Hostile either but he was wrong about Garrett and his attitude towards posters who disagreed with him deserves a touch of hostility.

 

[Trouty]

I'm sorry but you can't go on and on about how great someone is and is going to be like he did with Garrett and then just forget it ever happened.

Nothing against Hostile either but he was wrong about Garrett and his attitude towards posters who disagreed with him deserves a touch of hostility.

Catch, my post was meant in no disrespect to you, or the other fellow. But there's plenty of folks here who go "on and on" about so and so player/personnel.

My gripe isn't that you called him out, we do that here at the Zone -- it's that you called him out when he's barely a lurker here, now.

 

[CATCH17]

Catch, my post was meant in no disrespect to you, or the other fellow. But there's plenty of folks here who go "on and on" about so and so player/personnel.

My gripe isn't that you called him out, we do that here at the Zone -- it's that you called him out when he's barely a lurker here, now.

I don't feel disrespected by you trouty. I know your cool. No worries man.

I admit.. It was a bit of a cheap shot.. But I hold football grudges and love to pat myself on the back when i'm right. I'm petty like that when it comes to football.

 

[Clove]

I'd like to ask a question back to you. Why should we like him?

 

[erod]

Point taken, but I think most of us would be happy with a good coach. There are plenty of good coaches in the NFL.

I think they're all pretty much the same. They make less money than most of their starters. They have almost no power because of that. Garrett handles the overall structure of the week. Linehan and Marinelli are the guys making 95% of the decisions.

Teams with quarterbacks win. Teams without them don't. That is the NFL. Coaches are largely irrelevant.

Gone are the days of Landry, Madden, Grant, Noll, Gibbs, Jimmy, Vermeil, Allen, Shula, Lombardi......coaches that could dominate the environment of the team and truly strike fear in their players.

Now, coaches have to just "get along" with their players, or those same players will quit like dogs on them like the Giants did yesterday. Player contracts make them untouchable and give them all the power.

 

[kevm3]

Garrett needs to be in the front office, not on the field as a coach. I have more faith in his ability to pick staff than be part of the coaching staff. The drafts have been a lot better once Garrett got more involved and he's picked up some great assistant coaches. He's just not a head coach though.

 

[CATCH17]

I'd like to ask a question back to you. Why should we like him?

We still haven't gave Garrett enough time.

 

[visionary]

Garrett = Campo

Nuff said

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

I am a very cautious person when making decisions. It’s my nature and it’s by profession, as I am an analyst. I am the one calling people out for not knowing what they think they know when not having all the data or expertise when they make certain statements.

With that said I have taken a wait and see attitude, along with patience. Well I’ve waited, I’ve seen and I have no more patience. That man must go!

 

[Idgit]

I don't feel disrespected by you trouty. I know your cool. No worries man.

I admit.. It was a bit of a cheap shot.. But I hold football grudges and love to pat myself on the back when i'm right. I'm petty like that when it comes to football.

In fairness to Trouty, he probably just hasn't been around long enough to see you be right about something, so he just didn't know.

 

[CATCH17]

In fairness to Trouty, he probably just hasn't been around long enough to see you be right about something, so he just didn't know.

LOLLL

 

[Idgit]

LOLLL

I mean, he's only 23k posts in.

Just wait until I'm right about something. He's going to get so excited he explodes.

 

[Chuck 54]

And therien lies theproblem, we can whine aout JG all we want but he isnt going anywhere, Jerry invested way too much in him already, and Jerry will go down with the ship to prove he was right. Thanks for the history lesson, still doesn't change my opinion.

Don’t want to change anyone’s opinion. Garrett hasn’t proven much yet, so you guys wanting to move on could easily be correct. I just hate the recent BS that he doesn’t understand x’s and o’s Or that he didn’t deserve the position. He proved himself with the offense, and he was in high demand. Jerry made him give up play calling while he adjusted to managing the game as a head coach. He has improved in that area. However, none of that makes him a good head coach. That jury is definitely still out.

 

[NotForLong]

Awful HC, good motivator, that simply doesn’t work.

Well I like him as a cheerleader so.......

Maybe he would be better off as Rowdy or would we be better off with Rowdy as head coach I can't tell maybe its a draw

 

[Miller]

I’ll just add on to my earlier comments by repeating this

"In big games, coaches have to step up, and I have yet to see the Dallas coaches step up." - @jawsespn

 

[waving monkey]

I'm curious to get a read on how many fans still have faith that Jason Garrett is the right man for the job or how many fans are ready to move on?

Just your own opinion on what you would like to see happen going forward, and not what you expect Jerry Jones to do.

I'm interested to get a read on how opinions and overall confidence stands at this point.

Of course I support Garrett, my God why wouldn't I.
IMO Everything stays the same until Garrett's contract is expired then JJones makes his decision.
I dont bet against myself.

 

[waving monkey]

Never have been...and certainly not now. Once I realized he was not an 'X' and 'O' guy...I looked for his ability to channel the energy of talented yet difficult players into winners. He can't do that either. So he needs 53 talented choir boys....and then he will produce. Problem is...you will not find that in this sport....so he offers you no decided advantage on Sundays. Don't know how much of the rest of the NFL you watch...but I saw Kase Kenum go into Washington yesterday and lay 38 points on the Commanders....and when Romo went down...we could not even get 1st downs with Weeden and Matt Casell. I see Sean McVay take a team of players no one wanted on offense...and they are running up and down the field on everybody. With Jason...what you see is what you get...and the NFL has 10 years of data on him...unless we are just flat out better than the many in front of us...we cannot win.

McVay is the best new young coach in the NFL

 

[waving monkey]

Never was a supporter since he became our OC 10 years ago. Not even close a supporter now. He has done nothing in 10 years that shows he is a competent coach.

That a boy give him a chance

 

[waving monkey]

Never liked him never will.

thats fair

 

[waving monkey]

My big thing is I don't personally feel he makes players better, definitely not the sum of their parts. He make them more disciplined or organized, but I don't see the product on the field being anything additional to what the talent is capable of.

I want to like the guy because he represents stability, but his output, his treatment and handing of adverse situations, particularly with regards to selling out his own hires, I just don't see it. Finally I am a big Romo fan and I would have loved to see him with a Sean McVay or Shanahan type (sure that's asking a lot) as offensive coordinator or head coach, but definitely at least at o-coordinator I would loved to see Romo w/someone that had actually earned the job rather than be Jerry's handpicked Superbowl 90s reminder.

In other words, I suspect if Garrett was not a part of those teams he would have actually been forced to work his way up the ranks and get better as a result...it is a process after all but as it stands I think he was gifted a job he didn't earn, and he hasn't shown me personally anything that says "oh, well I see why they tabbed him as the next thing"

Making a player better is more or less the coordinators or assistants job no?
He was handed the job.