Dak is a good Bus Driver but Needs a Good Supporting Cast

[mattjames2010]

Seriousloy? Wentz is less mobile than Dak. He would've been sacked 12 times.

Actually, one of the reasons the Eagles have been able to cover up problems on their O-line is gameplanning to where Wentz is able to get the ball out of his hands quickly; they run about 20-25 slant passes a game.

 

[CowboyGil]

No way.

Romo puts up more than 1 to today for sure

Sell your Romo jerseys to someone that know elite Qb play and buy ya a Dak Jersey

Romo would've left the field on a cart. Dak walked off only because he's young.

 

[mattjames2010]

Romo would've left the field on a cart. Dak walked off only because he's young.

Again, Romo may have been sacked, but there is no way Green would have been left on his own over there for the majority of the game. Dak and Garrett take part of the blame here for not giving help to a backup tackle when he needed it.

 

[Austin 3-16]

I'm ok with this. Hell the numbers suggest he's a very good bus driver. This we can work with. Too many times under Antonio it became "save us gunslinger", I'm over that. Assemble a team, win as a team. Enough with relying on some dream run from a heartbreaker of a signal caller.

 

[stiletto]

Hell yes Romo was under seige like that. for most of his career the Oline was terrible. No run game no defense.

I've NEVER seen a lineman wiff as much in one game for Romo or any QB for that matter. It was usually on his right side when things broke down. Romo was always good at feeling the pressure no doubt but I had never seen something like what occurred with Chaz Green the other day. That was ridiculous for anyone.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I've NEVER seen a lineman wiff as much in one game for Romo or any QB for that matter. It was usually on his right side when things broke down. Romo was always good at feeling the pressure no doubt but I had never seen something like what occurred with Chaz Green the other day. That was ridiculous for anyone.

I will admit that I have never EVER seen anyone whiff that bad for any team. Not like that.

 

[stiletto]

I will admit that I have never EVER seen anyone whiff that bad for any team. Not like that.

That's all I'm saying. Romo was under siege all the time too in his career but this one game was just crazy. It was record setting BAD. Like everyone in the league/world knows about it bad.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That's all I'm saying. Romo was under siege all the time too in his career but this one game was just crazy. It was record setting BAD. Like everyone in the league/world knows about it bad.

Yep, we are in full agreement.

 

[Clamdigger]

Actually, one of the reasons the Eagles have been able to cover up problems on their O-line is gameplanning to where Wentz is able to get the ball out of his hands quickly; they run about 20-25 slant passes a game.

Where is this narrative coming from? They've played one game since losing JP and they used a ton of RPOs and misdirection in that game before the running game broke loose.

I'm not arguing against your overall point, in that they do have an efficient quick game, but it's more TE-centric with a few slants sprinkled in here and there.

 

[CODE_BLUE56]

I've NEVER seen a lineman wiff as much in one game for Romo or any QB for that matter. It was usually on his right side when things broke down. Romo was always good at feeling the pressure no doubt but I had never seen something like what occurred with Chaz Green the other day. That was ridiculous for anyone.

You mean allowing a player to have 6 sacks didn't happen all the time during Romo's tenure!?!?

 

[mattjames2010]

Where is this narrative coming from? They've played one game since losing JP and they used a ton of RPOs and misdirection in that game before the running game broke loose.

I'm not arguing against your overall point, in that they do have an efficient quick game, but it's more TE-centric with a few slants sprinkled in here and there.

Of course they take their shots, but they have been doing this ALL season. Slants are a big part of their game, they didn't change things up due to losing an OL. This doesn't mean they don't take their shots down the field, but slants and short passes that rely on RAC is their game. It's a good reason Agholor is having such a good year out of the slot.

That's not saying they have an offensive lineman that has played as bad as Green, but they certainly have a style of play that doesn't allow Wentz to take a ton of sacks.

That's just not the type of team we are, and honestly, I don't think Dak would fit it.

 

[River82]

Again, Romo may have been sacked, but there is no way Green would have been left on his own over there for the majority of the game.

And after he got sacked, more than once by the way, he would have left the field on a cart. Older Romo that made adjustments was fragile as hell, younger Romo was too inexperienced to make numerous adjustments but may have survived the punishment.

 

[Clamdigger]

Of course they take their shots, but they have been doing this ALL season. Slants are a big part of their game, they didn't change things up due to losing an OL. This doesn't mean they don't take their shots down the field, but slants and short passes that rely on RAC is their game. It's a good reason Agholor is having such a good year out of the slot.

That's not saying they have an offensive lineman that has played as bad as Green, but they certainly have a style of play that doesn't allow Wentz to take a ton of sacks.

That's just not the type of team we are, and honestly, I don't think Dak would fit it.

Yeah, I just don't see them literally throwing SLANTS that often. I do want to go back and re-watch the games when I have time. I've got them saved on my DVR, so hopefully I'll get a chance at some point.

 

[mattjames2010]

And after he got sacked, more than once by the way, he would have left the field on a cart. Older Romo that made adjustments was fragile as hell, younger Romo was too inexperienced to make numerous adjustments but may have survived the punishment.

Huh? Romo was great at the line and making adjustments even in 07. He was more careless with the football, that's for sure, but Romo was always really good getting players set and setting up protection.

And what is your point about him getting injured? This is irrelevant. Whether Romo's body can take the punishment really doesn't matter in terms of him noticing an issue at the line and doing what is needed to help fix it.

Dak and Garrett didn't even remotely try to help Green. It was an absolute embarrassment. Now, I place more blame on Garrett than Dak, at the end of the day he's the HC.

Just hope in the future both of them learn from this debacle.

 

[sean10mm]

Aaron Rodgers is the only QB who has a chance to win in the same conditions Dak faced.

Tom Brady loses that game today.

Well maybe not because belichek wouldn’t allow somebody to get 6 sacks uncontested all game.

Yeah, the Patriots were starting a scrub backup LT in place of Solder Sunday night, and gave up 0 sacks to Von Miller because they adjusted the blocking and play calling to compensate.

 

[River82]

Huh? Romo was great at the line and making adjustments even in 07. He was more careless with the football, that's for sure, but Romo was always really good getting players set and setting up protection.

And what is your point about him getting injured? This is irrelevant. Whether Romo's body can take the punishment really doesn't matter in terms of him noticing an issue at the line and doing what is needed to help fix it.

Dak and Garrett didn't even remotely try to help Green. It was an absolute embarrassment. Now, I place more blame on Garrett than Dak, at the end of the day he's the HC.

Just hope in the future both of them learn from this debacle.

Romo wasn't great at making adjustments in 2007, he was okay at making adjustments and even then he was 3 years older than Dak.

What is my point about him getting injured? You responded to a poster who was talking about Romo getting injured with the point that he'd make adjustments to the line, it's really not me that went off topic but you. But the point is, it doesn't matter how many adjustments he would have made Romo's season probably would have ended in that game. It's like Sean Lee, he's fantastic when he's on the field sure, but keeping him on the field takes a God awful amount of effort. Is it really worth the trouble to rely on a QB that struggles to stay on the field?

2013 - Ruptured disc
2014 - Fractured vertebrae
2015 - Broken left collarbone. Returned the same season and ...
2015 - Broken left collarbone
2016 - Fractured vertebrae

Romo was a hell of a player but he can't stay on the field. His talent is wasted. It's a shame but that's what it is. It doesn't matter how many adjustments to the line you make when you go down after a bit of contact.

 

[mattjames2010]

Romo wasn't great at making adjustments in 2007, he was okay at making adjustments and even then he was 3 years older than Dak.

What is my point about him getting injured? You responded to a poster who was talking about Romo getting injured with the point that he'd make adjustments to the line, it's really not me that went off topic but you. But the point is, it doesn't matter how many adjustments he would have made Romo's season probably would have ended in that game. It's like Sean Lee, he's fantastic when he's on the field sure, but keeping him on the field takes a God awful amount of effort. Is it really worth the trouble to rely on a QB that struggles to stay on the field?

2013 - Ruptured disc
2014 - Fractured vertebrae
2015 - Broken left collarbone. Returned the same season and ...
2015 - Broken left collarbone
2016 - Fractured vertebrae

Romo was a hell of a player but he can't stay on the field. His talent is wasted. It's a shame but that's what it is. It doesn't matter how many adjustments to the line you make when you go down after a bit of contact.

My point in the response was that Romo wouldn't have been sacked 6 times due to one player - whether he would get injured on one of those sacks we can't say. What we CAN say is that Romo wouldn't have allowed there to be no help on that side. The injury thing is too random to predict, The argument is just pointless - we are talking line adjustments here, not how much a body can take.

Prescott being able to take the sacks really isn't a huge benefit in terms of winning a ball game - the sacks alone are the issue.

 

[CATCH17]

There is still room for growth with Dak.. He's not even a 3rd year guy yet so put your labels away because what you have now may not be the same 2 or 3 years from now.

He's incredible for a 2nd year player.

 

[River82]

My point in the response was that Romo wouldn't have been sacked 6 times due to one player - whether he would get injured on one of those sacks we can't say. What we CAN say is that Romo wouldn't have allowed there to be no help on that side. The injury thing is too random to predict, The argument is just pointless - we are talking line adjustments here, not how much a body can take.

Prescott being able to take the sacks really isn't a huge benefit in terms of winning a ball game - the sacks alone are the issue.

Too random? Romo's been seriously injured every year since 2013. You may want to believe he would have survived this game, but most people who saw Romo toward the twilight of his career would have bet good money he never finished that game.

And we weren't initially talking about line adjustments, we were initially talking about injuries. You were the one who brought up line adjustments negating injuries, something that is also too random to predict.

 

[mattjames2010]

Too random? Romo's been seriously injured every year since 2013. You may want to believe he would have survived this game, but most people who saw Romo toward the twilight of his career would have bet good money he never finished that game.

And we weren't initially talking about line adjustments, we were initially talking about injuries. You were the one who brought up line adjustments negating injuries, something that is also too random to predict.

AGAIN, whether he would get injured is simply too unpredictable to be in a discussion. And frankly, one poster brought that into the direction - the person he responded to did not.

The discussion was if Romo would perform well or have that kind of pressure in the game. If he would have got injured, I don't know. IF Romo got continued pressure weekly like that? Most likely. I would say even Dak will get dinged up if he continues to get pressure like that.

But I'm not discussing if Dak will get injured or not - I'm simply talking we won't be able to produce on offense if he can't start to pick up blitzes or give help to players in need.

For all I know, next week Prescott can have a player got a little too low and tear his ACL. It's too unpredictable to know which sack/hit/tackle will take a player out of a game. Again, it's a pointless discussion and Romo's durability isn't really the importance here - it's about a QB responsibility not being met while an HC allowed it to continue.

And again, no, the person I responded to initially tried to push it into the direction that Romo would have got injured - the person he responded to was not discussing that. So it was not the "original" discussion, I never brought up injuries.