Dak is a good Bus Driver but Needs a Good Supporting Cast

Cowboysfan917

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But see, that's the issue with Dak. Does he believe he is only a bus driver? It matters because once his contract is up, he may want franchize QB type of money. If you pay him that amount, you won't be able to "build a team" around him because you won't have the resourcess necessary to do that. You either have a great defense, or a great offense. You can't have both in todays NFL. As we have seen, Dak can't take over a game...it's just not who he is. So sure, if you have an elite defense, you can ride the bus all the way to the Superbowl. But all the teams that took bus drivers to the Superbowl were not paying "franchize QB type of money " and that includes the Seahawks. My whole point is, fans need to realize what Dak is. He sure as hell isn't a " saviour"
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I’ll tell you the truth. This passing game has been ugly to watch this year. It’s very inconsistent and just seems way out of rythem. I’m afraid Dak is a poor mans Steve McNair.
 

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Which mythical QB doesn't need a good cast around them? Brady is about as close as I can think, and even then that was years ago before the recent crop of players. Brady was about as close as it got, when like Deion Branch was his best WR, but even then he had other things in his favor.

If it was all about the QB then Aaron Rodgers would have won like 5 super bowls by now, and Eli would have like negative 4.
 

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Romo was never under seige like what happened on Sunday, NEVER.....it was like here was no Left Tackle. Romo would've been out 6-8 weeks after that game even when he was younger...
Romo was too smart for that to ever happen. He would make audibles and adjustments. You can’t compare these 2 QB’s yet. One is far more advanced.
 

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Maybe Dallas should fix the defense. Maybe Dallas should add better dept. It's ridiculous you lose a couple players and the whole team falls apart. But of course bash Dak.
 

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Romo was too smart for that to ever happen. He would make audibles and adjustments. You can’t compare these 2 QB’s yet. One is far more advanced.

Nope...nope...nope...year 2 Dak vs year 2 Romo, not much different. You are comparing a 2nd year player to a decade player. Apples vs Oranges.
 

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Chaz was helped 8x and Bell 2x. That means the LT had help on roughly 10 of 30 pass attempts (I'm not sure how often on those doubles Dak was sacked which wouldn't be a pass attempt).

Since we know Chaz was benched in the early 4th he was not in for all 30 pass attempts and so he was in on 8 of < 30 pass attempts.

The idea he got no he'll is just a fundamental lie perpetrated by people who have an agenda against the coaching staff.

Your stats are wrong because you are not counting the plays Dak was sacked or had to scramble, putting the number of pass plays over 40.
 

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Nope...nope...nope...year 2 Dak vs year 2 Romo, not much different. You are comparing a 2nd year player to a decade player. Apples vs Oranges.

It should be remembered that year 2 Romo was also 3 years older than year 2 Dak. Romo had a long apprenticeship
 

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Winning the Superbowl isn't about finding the best QB in the whole league. Cam Newton isn't an elite QB and yet guided his team to the Superbowl, Peyton Manning played with his arm half hanging off his shoulder, couldn't throw it more than 15 yards and yet the Broncos won with an awesome defense, yet elite QBs like Romo and Luck have never even reached the biggest game.

Trying to find "the best QB eva" is an exercise in frustration, Dak is good enough to be a franchise QB, it's about time the front office concentrate on the rest of the actual team for once. Linebacker has to be THE PRIORITY of the next draft.
 

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Winning the Superbowl isn't about finding the best QB in the whole league. Cam Newton isn't an elite QB and yet guided his team to the Superbowl, Peyton Manning played with his arm half hanging off his shoulder, couldn't throw it more than 15 yards and yet the Broncos won with an awesome defense, yet elite QBs like Romo and Luck have never even reached the biggest game.

Trying to find "the best QB eva" is an exercise in frustration, Dak is good enough to be a franchise QB, it's about time the front office concentrate on the rest of the actual team for once. Linebacker has to be THE PRIORITY of the next draft.
I mean Cam had like 40+ TD passes and 4000 yards passing Dak will never touch that. Cam is a better passer. Dak’s ceiling is Alex Smith.
 

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I mean Cam had like 40+ TD passes and 4000 yards passing Dak will never touch that. Cam is a better passer. Dak’s ceiling is Alex Smith.

Yeah, I mean, Cam at least had one "elite" season. There's no doubt that the Panthers got to the Super Bowl the year Cam was playing his best football.

They were a complete team that year as well, but I doubt they would get to the Super Bowl without Cam playing at the level he played. I mean, he was league MVP.
 

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I mean Cam had like 40+ TD passes and 4000 yards passing Dak will never touch that. Cam is a better passer. Dak’s ceiling is Alex Smith.

This is BS.

Dak's season last year, his rookie season no less, was roughly equivalent o Alex Smith's greatest season ever (this year).

Sky's the limit for Dak.
 

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I mean Cam had like 40+ TD passes and 4000 yards passing Dak will never touch that. Cam is a better passer. Dak’s ceiling is Alex Smith.

No, Cam had 35 passing touchdowns throughout the regular season and 3837 yards passing. And it was by far his best season, and he was aided by his team and the schedule a lot.
 

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I agree completely. This game demonstrated how bad our depth is at OT and LB. It demonstrated how important coaching is. Did Belicheat allow Brady to get hit all game by V. Miller on Sunday night. H_ _ _ No! He chipped him all game long. Belicheat did not allow one player to shut down their offense. Our stupid coaching staff did! This offensive performance had EVERYTHING to do with atrocious left tackle play and coaching and almost nothing to do with our outstanding young QB. No QB would have been successful with the blind side D end basically unblocked on every pass play. Dak is one of the highest rated QB’s of all time in his first 25 games according to the QBR rating system and the passer rating system and some of you think he is a semi accurate bus driver! No he is a franchise QB, but he still needs some pass protection just like EVERY other franchise QB. Hopefully our coaching staff will start game planning around our weak back up Left tackles until T Smith gets back.
 

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If we are being truly honest with ourselves, we should all have known before now that Dak is much more of a cog in the wheel as opposed to the motor that keeps the wheel turning. Yesterday's loss was not solely on Dak's shoulders. There were definitely things he could've done better and he definitely did not get all the help he needed. His accuracy has never been pinpoint. He has a lot of intangibles and an ability to pick up yards with his feet. Green did him 0 favors and the defense did him no favors short of one turnover...

I think a lot of us want our QB to be the best player on the offense. Dak is not this. Dak doesn't play the way Romo did. Romo made receivers better by throwing into tight windows and taking chances that Dak doesn't have the accuracy or confidence to take.

Yesterday with a young Romo under center, does anyone believe he wouldn't have passed for more than 177 yards? He may very well have pressed and thrown some interceptions or he may have thrown for 300+ yards and 3 TDs. Romo was the motor that drove the offense back then because he was the best offensive player we had. The running game is what drives this team now because, frankly, the offensive line and Zeke are the best players on this offense; better than Dak is as a passer.

Again, this was not Dak's fault but nobody has a perfect team in the NFL. Few teams have great offensive lines. So much is overcoming what's around you. Dak does need support and we said the same thing about Romo all those seasons. I do think Dak needs more support than Romo did though.
What game were you watching? Did you see the blind side D end running free on almost every pass play. Romo would have been buried with his Halo before halftime. Romo made so many critical mistakes in big games throughout his career. Perfect example. Romo’s last playoff game vs Green Bay. 3rd and 1shotgun formation. Ball on the GB 31 late in the 2nd quarter. Ball is snapped. While the ball is in the air Romo looks to his left, WHY the ball is in the air inches from his hands, he looks back at the ball just in time to fumble it. Picks ball up and throws a desperation jump ball towards Terrance Williams which of course falls incomplete. Who does that? Looks away while the ball is in the air. NOBODY. Next play our long Field goal is blocked. Romo’s fumble was turning point in a game we had the talent to win, except Romo couldn’t make enough plays. Yes Romo did throw a jump ball to Dez at the end of the game. How well did that work out. Dak probably would have hit Cole Beasley to keep the drive alive.
 

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It should be remembered that year 2 Romo was also 3 years older than year 2 Dak. Romo had a long apprenticeship


Tell me again why people were adamantly opposed to bringing Romo back again then. sure, Romo would probably have gotten injured at some point , but why were people so afraid of having Romo around if Dak is " only a second year widdle baby".. just doesn't make sense to me. I know Romo ain't coming back, I'm just asking why people were so against bringing Romo back to compete if Dak , according to some here, has many things to learn... Riding the pine is not something that's beneath Dak.. heck, Romo, Rodgers , Steve young and Brady all rode the pine, why couldn't Dak wait a few years ?
 

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Tell me again why people were adamantly opposed to bringing Romo back again then. sure, Romo would probably have gotten injured at some point , but why were people so afraid of having Romo around if Dak is " only a second year widdle baby".. just doesn't make sense to me. I know Romo ain't coming back, I'm just asking why people were so against bringing Romo back to compete if Dak , according to some here, has many things to learn... Riding the pine is not something that's beneath Dak.. heck, Romo, Rodgers , Steve young and Brady all rode the pine, why couldn't Dak wait a few years ?

Don't ask me, I'm not them. I also have no clue why Jerry wanted to "ride the hot hand" either. It's not Dak's fault though, Dak was saying all the right things but the decision was made by the higher ups
 
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