A reminder that Dak can play QB

[bayeslife]

Yeah I mean. I guess I’m a homer but I keep watching Prescott over and over and over and I just don’t see the arm talent/accuracy/footwork arguments that everyone else does. I compare him to other QBs for a side by side and I just can’t see what other QBs do that Prescott hasn’t.

He’s had a bad year after Smith and Zeke went out but all things considered he’s done a fine job for a second year QB and is clearly a leader of men out there.

Are Titans fans jumping ship on Mariota? Raiders fans with Carr? Winston? All guys with supposed better intangibles that have played worse football with arguably better offensive talent.

 

[Eddie]

His accuracy issues started once Zeke was suspended. Before that, he was playing really well. What's funny is Wentz is considered an MVP by his fanbase, yet only completed 60.2% of his passes.

Not true. He was sailing open receivers at the beginning of the year. Don't forget we started the season 2-3. We had Zeke all that time.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Who are they?

Watson, Wentz, Goff, Mariota, and Wilson.

 

[CATCH17]

Yeah I mean. I guess I’m a homer but I keep watching Prescott over and over and over and I just don’t see the arm talent/accuracy/footwork arguments that everyone else does. I compare him to other QBs for a side by side and I just can’t see what other QBs do that Prescott hasn’t.

He’s had a bad year after Smith and Zeke went out but all things considered he’s done a fine job for a second year QB and is clearly a leader of men out there.

Are Titans fans jumping ship on Mariota? Raiders fans with Carr? Winston? All guys with supposed better intangibles that have played worse football with arguably better offensive talent.

Exactly.. Look at Derek Carr.

Probably the 2nd best young QB in the league. Some would probably take him over Wentz. He has had struggles too.

Dak probably showed us his floor this year and his floor is very high compared to other QB's.

 

[condoin125]

Goff i'm not sold on being better then Dak. IF you think he is then that's fine but I'll take Dak over Goff.

Wentz is a different story. We should've made a move up for him. We coached him at the senior bowl and somehow still didn't make a move up because of Romo or whatever. Luckily we got Zeke.

I think some of you watch too much Dak and not enough of other QB's and you don't see their flaws as well. For example with Goff they say his coach has to basically do everything for him pre-snap.

I'll take Dak over Goff though. I'll take Dak over Jameis, and MAriota too. Along with a bunch of other QB's.

Dak is off to one of the best starts in NFL history and a few bad games doesn't change my opinion.

You saw him throw a few incompletions though and now he sucks. I get it. We did it with Romo when he couldn't 1 man army the entire NFL and now we will do it with Dak in a different way.

Well this post has a lot more substance to it my friend and some fair points. Wentz looks head and shoulders better than Dak and we certainly missed out on him. I do think Goff is better than Dak but at least I can understand some of the doubt you have there. Goff doesn't look anywhere near as polished as Wentz and doesn't have his same arm talent; I also can believe that he's not in full control of his offense at the moment and relies on his coaching staff far more than a guy like Wentz. The difference between Goff and Dak for me is that he clearly is showing enough there to work with as a franchise QB....a Matt Ryan kind of mold if you will. Dak's best attribute is that he can make some smart plays with his legs and that's a bad situation for a franchise QB. Russell Wilson can make plays with his legs too but his arm is amazing and at times literally carries his offense while playing behind one of the worst lines in the league.

As for the other QBs you've mentioned, I think Mariota is just a hair better than Dak but has a lot of the same issues. Jameis Winston is much more talented than both of them but I just don't know about that guy anymore; I used to be big on him but now I don't trust him off the field and I question his work ethic. This analysis isn't due to a snap judgement; it's not due to the three game losing streak with no TD passes; many of us were questioning this guy as a franchise QB going back to last season during the win streak. It was clear to us that he had major holes to his game that were unlikely to be fixed (because they may not be fixable) and couldn't make all of the throws regularly that you need from your QB. People keep crediting the start of his NFL career as being so successful but in reality, he was the benefit of a team playing well ahead of itself in 2016 vs a last place schedule. This season when the team got worse and the schedule got harder, he did nothing to elevate those around him because he simply isn't good enough. This is about Dak, Romo has nothing to do with this or this team any longer....we need to upgrade the QB position in the worst way.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Watson, Wentz, Goff, Mariota, and Wilson.

Edit: Wilson is 29. Make that 4 QBs under 27.

 

[CATCH17]

Watson, Wentz, Goff, Mariota, and Wilson.

I would go

Wentz, Wilson, Dak, Mariota, Goff, Watson in that order/

I think Dak is better then Wilson at the same stage of their career too and they are very similar players but i'll choose Wilson because there is a little more information on him.

It's not like Wilson doesn't have his very average days.

 

[condoin125]

Edit: Wilson is 29. Make that 4 QBs under 27.

Wow, actually didn't know he was that old now.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

Not true. He was sailing open receivers at the beginning of the year. Don't forget we started the season 2-3. We had Zeke all that time.

True, however in two of those losses, Prescott had three TDs and four TDs. His accuracy was off on some throws but his TD production was very high.

 

[nightrain]

Some of you have convinced yourselves that Dak is just an awful QB. I thought I would post some videos from this past year that show Dak can play this position at a high level.

This guy is off to one of the best starts in NFL history and some of you on here act like he is garbage. We are lucky to have him.

He does have some accuracy issues but they are all things he can fix with better footwork.

He shows flashes and has all the desired intangibles, but let's be honest, he would benefit tremendously as understudy to an accomplished veteran for a couple of years.

 

[Donut]

Do you have any of throws over 10 yards and not over guys heads?

 

[theebs]

Exactly.. Look at Derek Carr.

Probably the 2nd best young QB in the league. Some would probably take him over Wentz. He has had struggles too.

Dak probably showed us his floor this year and his floor is very high compared to other QB's.

Im of the mindset that he showed us his ceiling in 2016.

He is not the second best young qb in the league. Wentz and Garrapalo are much better. Watch them throw the football.

I just dont think you can fix his issues. You can run the ball at a high level and hide them like 16 but I dont see him ever having results better than 16. I am not talking about interceptions either I dont mind interceptions in an aggressive offense, its just part of it. I am speaking in terms of dropping back and making accurate throws 15 yards plus consistently.

I am really dreading three years from now when Sam Darnold is throwing darts in the meadowlands under Pat Shurmur's guidance and we are trying to figure out how to get the ball down the field. Its going to be terrific.

 

[CATCH17]

. This season when the team got worse and the schedule got harder, he did nothing to elevate those around him because he simply isn't good enough. This is about Dak, Romo has nothing to do with this or this team any longer....we need to upgrade the QB position in the worst way.

I would say Dak elevated Beasley and even Jason Witten.

Where we have taken a hit is our guys out wide at the X and Z.

Dez Bryant is a shell and Terrence Williams has always been a solid #2 statistically and now he can't even sniff pay dirt.

With that said.. Upgrade in the worst way? REally?

I don't think you're grading Dak on the same scale as these other QB's. He could be more of a playmaker at times but again this is a 2nd year player and hes having one of the best starts in NFL history at the hardest position in football to find but yet we need to upgrade?

 

[theebs]

I would go

Wentz, Wilson, Dak, Mariota, Goff, Watson in that order/

I think Dak is better then Wilson at the same stage of their career too and they are very similar players but i'll choose Wilson because there is a little more information on him.

It's not like Wilson doesn't have his very average days.

I guess you guys didnt watch Jimmy G at all. he is 26 and better than all of them except wentz. I would take jimmy g over wentz right now also since Garroppolo has two knees.

 

[CATCH17]

I am really dreading three years from now when Sam Darnold is throwing darts in the meadowlands under Pat Shurmur's guidance and we are trying to figure out how to get the ball down the field. Its going to be terrific.

If that guy turns out good I will be shocked.

He's leaving school way too early and QB's that leave early just don't have a lot of success historically.

You'll have the rare exception but I don't see him being one.

They should go for Josh Allen. If i'm a coach I want that guy.


Jimmy G. does look good. He looks like a poor mans Rodgers. I just never think about him.

 

[bayeslife]

Im of the mindset that he showed us his ceiling in 2016.

He is not the second best young qb in the league. Wentz and Garrapalo are much better. Watch them throw the football.

I just dont think you can fix his issues. You can run the ball at a high level and hide them like 16 but I dont see him ever having results better than 16. I am not talking about interceptions either I dont mind interceptions in an aggressive offense, its just part of it. I am speaking in terms of dropping back and making accurate throws 15 yards plus consistently.

I am really dreading three years from now when Sam Darnold is throwing darts in the meadowlands under Pat Shurmur's guidance and we are trying to figure out how to get the ball down the field. Its going to be terrific.

I think maybe you just don’t like Prescott. His ceiling was his rookie year?

And I just watched them throw. Is it because they have a prettier spiral that you think they’re that much better? I don’t get it

 

[theebs]

If that guy turns out good I will be shocked.

He's leaving school way too early and QB's that leave early just don't have a lot of success historically.

You'll have the rare exception but I don't see him being one.

They should go for Josh Allen. If i'm a coach I want that guy.


Jimmy G. does look good. He looks like a poor mans Rodgers. I just never think about him.

Go watch him throw the ball on the Jacksonville Defense from early december. He looks better than all of them with inferior talent against the leagues best defense.

 

[Bigdog]

His accuracy issues started once Zeke was suspended. Before that, he was playing really well. What's funny is Wentz is considered an MVP by his fanbase, yet only completed 60.2% of his passes.

Are you talking about his fan base on this board or another? Very confusing (sarcasm).

 

[CATCH17]

I just dont think you can fix his issues. You can run the ball at a high level and hide them like 16 but I dont see him ever having results better than 16. I am not talking about interceptions either I dont mind interceptions in an aggressive offense, its just part of it. I am speaking in terms of dropping back and making accurate throws 15 yards plus consistently.

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Look at the state of NFL Quarterbacking.

Everyone loves Russell Wilson. You don't think Dak can play at a Russell Wilson type of level?

Does a Derek Carr really change our team much? Carr plays on a team similar to Dallas and even though he is more skilled as a passer then Dak his end results are about the same.


2016 we were a machine and Dak made the machine run great with his efficiency and his ability to take off and run when Garretts crap passing scheme had everyone covered.

That is the brand of football I think he can be great at.

We will need a little more defense to play that style of football and maybe a more dynamic TE on the offensive side.



I watched Big Ben for years piggy back his team to a Superbowl.

I watched Russell Wilson piggy back his team to a Superbowl.

Joe Flacco, Eli Manning. Dak can do this too.

 

[theebs]

I think maybe you just don’t like Prescott. His ceiling was his rookie year?

And I just watched them throw. Is it because they have a prettier spiral that you think they’re that much better? I don’t get it

Yes they throw better ball's and look like nfl level passers.

I think the team was on a mission to rebound from the disaster of 2015, the whole offseason was around building a better team for romo. Romo was there all spring and summer. at the last minute he was hurt and dak stepped in. The team had laser focus and a rookie at running back who brought the energy level of the team and fanbase up a notch like owens in 06 and then later romo in 06.

So yes I think personally that was his ceiling everything was in place and he was asked not to screw it up and played well for most of the year. This year he was leaned on for various reasons as was romo and could not over come it. I think that is the future for him. Somehow someway he will have everything dumped on him to fix during games and he is not equipped to handle that.

Hire a new staff in a year with a different approach and my opinion could change. Right now this is my opinion, he is a good player who is a complimentary piece but will never throw the football on the level of the upper end qb's.