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[starcity214]

Dak had 28 TD's this year, 29 last year. He'll have 35 next year or more. Book it. If one guy can get open more than 2 yards from the line of scrimmage his life would be a lot easier. Every week, I see receivers running wide open for other teams. Can't be every receiver, it is the scheme. Dak could not redesign the offense on the fly in the huddle like Romo did just yet. Let's get a coach, so he won't have to. Even with this vanilla offense, if they get a real deep threat, so the Defenses have to defend more than 15 yards, Dak, Zeke and this offense will be fine. That's a big IF however, since they do not like receivers that run better than 4.6.

Well, I remember that at one point , 14/16 TD passes Dak had were in the red zone. You added his rushing TDs wich were also in the red zone. That tells me that Dak Needs the running game to be effective. That is why we struggled to score TDs when Zeke went out.


Also, Mosher had several Gifs were our WR were wide open down the field and Dak inexplicably chose to check the ball down.
I guess you guys just want to live in your own little fantasy world...

 

[big dog cowboy]

I was hoping after Daks remarkable Rookie season he was going to be the elite talent at QB we needed. I’m not so sure anymore.

Evaluate 2017 Dak up to the point of Zeke's suspension and Tyron getting hurt. It may not have been to his elite standard of his rookie year but it was pretty darn good.

 

[Diehardblues]

Evaluate 2017 Dak up to the point of Zeke's suspension and Tyron getting hurt. It may not have been to his elite standard of his rookie year but it was pretty darn good.

But still not good enough to beat the better or playoff teams. Except the Chiefs who were unreeling at the time.

All 3 of the losses without Elliott were all to better teams and the wins against lesser teams.

And when Elliott returned we weren’t able to beat a team we could and should have which tells me again we weren’t a better team.

And we wouldn’t have finished with a winning record without Eagles resting their starters .

If you didn’t see the concerns many had with Dak then we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

I’m not sure why we’re so dug in on him? Are we still that desperate of a franchise to be so sold after one breakout season? Sorry, I want better.

And it’s not a knock on him. Great kid, etc. And we can win some games with him. But it’s going to be more of a struggle than I’d hoped.

 

[KJJ]

Why don’t we just swing for the fences and try and draft the next elite QB?

We may already have a QB who might develop into an elite QB. From what I’m hearing this isn’t a real strong QB draft. None of the QBs in this draft are projected to be Goff or Wentz. That doesn’t mean none of them will turn out but drafting a QB is a crapshoot, especially where we’re picking. Dak was very solid the first half of the season until Zeke was suspended and Tyron started missing games. We have to give him every opportunity to bounce back next season. We made a big commitment to part ways with Romo and go with him so we have to give him a chance to rebound. A lot of things around him broke down that contributed to his struggles. He was sacked 22 times in the second half of the season and took only 10 sacks in the first 8 games.. He only took 25 sacks his entire rookie season.

He received awful pass protection at times this season. I’ve seen enough good in him to think we found something. Philly gave up on Foles a couple of years ago. The Rams and KC never gave him much of a chance and he just led Philly to the Super Bowl. Those who want to move on from Dak at this stage in his career are being ridiculous. We don’t need to be burning a high pick on a QB that would be stupid. That pick could be used for a player to help Dak and our passing game. It could be used for a player on the defense.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Well, I remember that at one point , 14/16 TD passes Dak had were in the red zone. You added his rushing TDs wich were also in the red zone. That tells me that Dak Needs the running game to be effective. That is why we struggled to score TDs when Zeke went out.


Also, Mosher had several Gifs were our WR were wide open down the field and Dak inexplicably chose to check the ball down.
I guess you guys just want to live in your own little fantasy world...

But yet Morris averaged a better yards per carry them Zeke. Now in no way am I saying that Morris is better but our run game was still there even without Zeke but our coaches went away from the run. Against Atlanta they refused to help Green and allowed Dak to get creamed. Same thing in Philly and against the chargers.

Dak isn't the problem. He is still young and just finished his second season so yes he still needs more developing but it is a coaching issue.

You want to know why our receivers can't get open, cause defenders know exactly what routes they are running and beat them to the spot. Watch the playoffs this season and see how teams are creative and keeps defenses guessing.

Patriots are so good cause of Belichek. Sure Brady is good but they have the same success with Cassel, Brissett, Jimmy G etc. Without a competent coach it doesn't matter who you have.

Romo failed time and time again because of coaching. He tried to do it all himself and it didn't work. Rams, Jags, Eagles etc all took the next step because of coaching.

Don't believe me ask yourself this question. If Dak, Zeke and Dez are in New England how far do they go...... With Belichek as coach

 

[Diehardblues]

We may already have a QB who might develop into an elite QB. From what I’m hearing this isn’t a real strong QB draft. None of the QBs in this draft are projected to be Goff or Wentz. Drafting a QB is a crapshoot, many don’t pan out especially where we’re picking. Dak was very solid the first half of the season until Zeke was suspended and Tyron started missing games. We have to give him every opportunity to bounce back next season. We made a big commitment to part ways with Romo and go with him so we have to give him a chance to rebound. A lot of things around him broke down that contributed to his struggles. He was sacked 22 times in the second half of the season. He only took 25 sacks his entire rookie season.

He received awful pass protection at times this season. I’ve seen enough good in him to think we found something. Philly gave up on Foles a couple of years ago. The Rams and KC never gave him much of a chance and he just led Philly to the Super Bowl. Those who want to move on from Dak at this stage in his career are being ridiculous. We don’t need to be burning a high pick on a QB that would be stupid. That pick could be used for a player to help Dak and our passing game. It could be used for a player on the defense.

I agree we have to give him a chance to rebound but I’d still hedge my bet because I want the next Goff or Wentz.

I don’t have faith Jerry and Jason can build a great enough team to overcome a less than elite QB.

 

[KJJ]

I agree we have to give him a chance to rebound but I’d still hedge my bet because I want the next Goff or Wentz.

I don’t have faith Jerry and Jason can build a great enough team to overcome a less than elite QB.

Elite QB‘S elevate everyone around them.

According to the experts the next Goff or Wentz isn’t in this draft. You certainly aren’t going to get that caliber of QB at 19 unless you get lucky. Many on this board were calling Goff a bust last season. You seem to think picking a QB in the first round is going to guarantee you an elite QB.

 

[Diehardblues]

And I reject this notion we gave up anything by letting Romo go to play Dak. Romo was on his last legs. No one else pursued him. He was damaged goods.

All we have invested in Dak is a 4th round pick. As much as I’d like to use our 1st round why not risk a 2nd round ? I think there will be a couple Id take .

If Dak blows again next year we’re going to wish we had another option. If not then we’ll have some trade bait. QB always in high demand.

 

[Diehardblues]

According to the experts the next Goff or Wentz isn’t in this draft. You certainly aren’t going to get that caliber of QB at 19 unless you get lucky. Many on this board were calling Goff a bust last season. You seem to think picking a QB in the first round is going to guarantee you an elite QB.

If Darnell comes out he’ll prob go first. But I’d be interested in Rosen or Stidham who could go later first or 2nd. Always hard to tell where QB will go.

Yes there are bust but most of those go to crap teams . 80% of starting QB in NFL are 1st and 2nd rounders . It’s where most of the studs are.

Goff and Wentz both could have been bust if they went to a crap team like Cleveland but they went to average teams that needed an elite QB.

 

[KJJ]

If Darnell comes out he’ll prob go first. But I’d be interested in Rosen or Stidham who could go later first or 2nd. Always hard to tell where QB will go.

A few weeks ago Kiper couldn’t even pick a consensus number one at QB. He seemed to think five could go in the first round. If that’s the case you’ll be lucky if three turn into solid NFL QBs. Look through the draft over the years and compare the number of QBs that succeeded and became solid NFL QBs versus the number of QBs that went bust. The number of busts will be much higher. Drafting a QB is a crapshoot!

 

[Diehardblues]

A few weeks ago Kiper couldn’t even pick a consensus number one at QB. He seemed to think five could go in the first round. If that’s the case you’ll be lucky if three turn into solid NFL QBs. Look through the draft over the years and compare the number of QBs that succeeded and became solid NFL QBs versus the number of QBs that went bust. The number of busts will be much higher. Drafting a QB is a crapshoot!

Of course it’s a crapshoot but that’s where most of the elite QB come from and why teams continue to take that chance.

And why I’d swing for the fences. Gosh darn nit. We gamble and take risk on everything but a firkin QB.

Use at least a 2nd rd on QB we’d prob waste anyway on an injury riddled LB, pothead DL or TE we never used.

 

[KJJ]

Of course it’s a crapshoot but that’s where most of the elite QB come from and why teams continue to take that chance.

And why I’d swing for the fences. Gosh darn nit. We gamble and take risk on everything but a firkin QB.

Use at least a 2nd rd on QB we’d prob waste anyway on an injury riddled LB, pothead DL or TE we never used.

It’s the teams that desperately need a QB that take chances. Any QB chosen past the top 10 is a complete roll of the dice. We have a QB that’s shown great potential. You can go ahead and swing for the fences that usually leads to striking out. We have holes we need to fill with our top two picks. We need those players on the field next season. You don’t swing for the fences unless you’re in a desperate situation.

 

[Johnny23]

Dallas will probably pay him more then anyone else would.

I just can't help but think of him in that New England offense with real coaching and with Gronk and those small WR's controlling the middle of the field.

It could be 2007 all over again if New England had Dez.

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If Darnell comes out he’ll prob go first. But I’d be interested in Rosen or Stidham who could go later first or 2nd. Always hard to tell where QB will go.

Yes there are bust but most of those go to crap teams . 80% of starting QB in NFL are 1st and 2nd rounders . It’s where most of the studs are.

Goff and Wentz both could have been bust if they went to a crap team like Cleveland but they went to average teams that needed an elite QB.

Stidham is going to be back at Auburn next year. You would be giving up our entire draft this year plus for Rosen who has injury and character concerns.

We would have to trade up to 1. The Giants are probably taking Rosen with the pick. Not worth it for a China doll immobile qb with a malcontent attitude.

 

[Blackspider214]

But still not good enough to beat the better or playoff teams. Except the Chiefs who were unreeling at the time.

All 3 of the losses without Elliott were all to better teams and the wins against lesser teams.

And when Elliott returned we weren’t able to beat a team we could and should have which tells me again we weren’t a better team.

And we wouldn’t have finished with a winning record without Eagles resting their starters .

If you didn’t see the concerns many had with Dak then we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

I’m not sure why we’re so dug in on him? Are we still that desperate of a franchise to be so sold after one breakout season? Sorry, I want better.

And it’s not a knock on him. Great kid, etc. And we can win some games with him. But it’s going to be more of a struggle than I’d hoped.

You realize you don't have to start a new paragraph for each line of thought, right?

 

[Diehardblues]

It’s the teams that desperately need a QB that take chances. Any QB chosen past the top 10 is a complete roll of the dice. We have a QB that’s shown great potential. You can go ahead and swing for the fences that usually leads to striking out. We have holes we need to fill with our top two picks. We need those players on the field next season.

He has shown some potential . Most of that was last year.

I just hate to put all my eggs in Daks basket.

 

[The Natural]

Not trying to troll, but I dont know if I could stand the drama guy brings if he played for my team.


Doesn’t seem like a a team player. His drama doesn’t seem worth his production. Just a non cowboys fan perspective FWIW.

how come I have never heard a Cowboy player complain about Dez?

 

[KJJ]

He has shown some potential . Most of that was last year.

I just hate to put all my eggs in Daks basket.

By releasing Romo we put all our eggs in Dak’s basket. It’s important that we show confidence in him and allow him to bounce back next season. Despite his struggles he had some solid games this season. Drafting a QB in the first round says you’re giving up on him. No one drafts a QB in the first round just to try and cover themselves, they’re taking that QB to eventually be their starter.

 

[TheDude]

He's right about Romo and Prescott playing the game in different ways.

Romo played it the talented way.

well played

 

[Beast_from_East]

Back shoulder throw is one of the most popular throws in NFL. But not with Dak..

And Cowboys were last in NFL in pass attempts 20 yards beyond LOS. Dez only had 2 thrown his way all season.

Exactly..........we don't even try to throw the ball downfield............last in the league in pass attempts over 20 yards beyond the LOS

Honestly, if we are going to keep playing this archaic dino offense Garrett has a hard-on for, we don't need a $16 million dollar WR.

 

[Beast_from_East]

However you want to look at it, Dez got paid a lot of money for a little impact this season. I don't think recognizing that fact is a bad thing.

What surprises me is to hear the organization saying it so bluntly right at the start of the offseason. I would have thought this was a topic they'd be handling with kid gloves until they had an alternative in place.

The time for kid gloves is over, its time for players and coaches to start being held accountable for their lack of results on the field. In the case of Dez, he has gone 23 games now being held under 100 yards receiving.

That is almost as laughable as Garrett's playoff record, but I digress, its time for Dez to either take a pay cut or walk. $16 million for a WR that only runs go routes or in routes, throws tantrums on the sidelines, and when he finally does get the ball he fumbles it, is a total waste of money.