The reason they have to keep Dez

[jazzcat22]

there are far more players in the hof who were not first round draft choices than those who were. at every position, not just wr.

That is because there are 10 times as many players drafted after the 1st round, so yes, there will be more players making the HOF from the 2nd round on.

 

[KJJ]

Would like to see us take a WR with our first pick if one warrants the selection and move Dez to the slot. He was very good in the slot his rookie year.

 

[jazzcat22]

Would like to see us take a WR with our first pick if one warrants the selection and move Dez to the slot. He was very good in the slot his rookie year.

This staff doesn't know how to use the slot position for any WR, or so it seems.

We need a WR, but one with speed. I still prefer DT or LB in the 1st round, get a WR in the 2nd , or more like the 3rd. If an OL, LB, DT, S is there in the 2nd, depending who they took in the 1st, then take the other position.
WR, need speed, and to develop him, but WR is not a must need position for a #1.

If all are off the board for defense in round 1, and Ridley is there, sure take him. But not in lieu of a stud player on D.
rather if that moves Dez to the slot or not, then so be it, but do not gear the draft for that purpose.

 

[cern]

That is because there are 10 times as many players drafted after the 1st round, so yes, there will be more players making the HOF from the 2nd round on.

but the article was about how the recent first rounders have disappointed. ergo, my comment. size of the dog In the fight or fight in the dog???.

 

[gjkoeppen]

If Dez was in Green Bay......100 catches, 1,000 yards, 10+ TDs. With his eyes closed.

You aren't fixing this in the draft. As you read in the OP, the past three years have produced almost nothing in the draft at wide receiver in the first round. Certainly nothing of real note, outside of flashes from Amari Cooper, who had a terrible year last year.

And the salary cap is a virtual myth. You can always restructure to make anything fit you want, and it keeps going up year after year. It's a built-in excuse to stand pat.

It's obvious you know very little about the cap. Restructuring contracts just adds more dead money down the road because the players who's contracts get restructured eventually get released and ergo more dead money. Second the cap has had years where it has only raised by just a few million dollars per team and the Cowboys who have until the past 2 or 3 years of restructuring only as a last resort have had dead money that was equaled or was greater than the increase in the cap. Last the peckers have better receivers than Bryant and have their own quandary of who to keep and who they will have to be release and they sure aren't going to then sign Bryant. Some of those receivers that have been drafted the past couple of years were drafted by teams that already had a #1 receiver and were looking to 1) find a cheaper one but didn't get a lot of playing time or 2) drafted to groom for a couple years down the road when their #1 contract is up. It is shear lunacy to say that there will be no receivers in this years draft that couldn't step in and do as well as Bryant has done the past couple of years at just a fraction of the cost. He probably would lead the league in anything but neither has Bryant for years.
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[jazzcat22]

but the article was about how the recent first rounders have disappointed. ergo, my comment. size of the dog In the fight or fight in the dog???.

It depends on what the smaller dog is packing.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Yeah, wow, what a way to build a team...we can then go 4-12 and draft a WR in 2019. and still have a lame coaching staff to go 8-8 that year.

So just how many years has it been since Bryant was been among the top 3 or 5 in the league but this season would be the 3rd highest paid receiver? Bryant's days of being an elite receiver have been gone for years now and to hang on to him overpaying in the process is just foolishness.

 

[jazzcat22]

It's obvious you know very little about the cap. Restructuring contracts just adds more dead money down the road because the players who's contracts get restructured eventually get released and ergo more dead money. Second the cap has had years where it has only raised by just a few million dollars per team and the Cowboys who have until the past 2 or 3 years of restructuring only as a last resort have had dead money that was equaled or was greater than the increase in the cap. Last the peckers have better receivers than Bryant and have their own quandary of who to keep and who they will have to be release and they sure aren't going to then sign Bryant. Some of those receivers that have been drafted the past couple of years were drafted by teams that already had a #1 receiver and were looking to 1) find a cheaper one but didn't get a lot of playing time or 2) drafted to groom for a couple years down the road when their #1 contract is up. It is shear lunacy to say that there will be no receivers in this years draft that couldn't step in and do as well as Bryant has done the past couple of years at just a fraction of the cost. He probably would lead the league in anything but neither has Bryant for years.
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Lokk at GB's QB vs. our QB's. An average WR here could be a star WR in GB.
But agree about your explaining the cap issues and what WR or any player to keep or not.
Put Dez on GB with Rogers throwing to him, fans here would be saying...go sign Dez when he is a FA....

 

[KJJ]

This staff doesn't know how to use the slot position for any WR, or so it seems.

We need a WR, but one with speed. I still prefer DT or LB in the 1st round, get a WR in the 2nd , or more like the 3rd. If an OL, LB, DT, S is there in the 2nd, depending who they took in the 1st, then take the other position.
WR, need speed, and to develop him, but WR is not a must need position for a #1.

If all are off the board for defense in round 1, and Ridley is there, sure take him. But not in lieu of a stud player on D.
rather if that moves Dez to the slot or not, then so be it, but do not gear the draft for that purpose.

Dez was terrific in the slot his rookie year. It’s a way for us to move him around some. If we could add a stretch the field threat at the #1 WR position this could open up things for Dez. If a WR isn’t there that warrants our top pick then we go defense. Would prefer a DT over an LB but it depends on the best player on the board. I’m hoping for a WR with our first pick. Dak needs weapons and we have to improve our passing game especially down the field.

 

[Chuck 54]

The chemistry between Dez and Dak is fine and clear.
Dak looks over and sees he's not open or didn't run his route...throws elsewhere.
Dez berates him and others about getting the ball.
Dak forces throws to him that are intercepted or dropped.
Dez puts a towel over his head and goes into a funk.

However, Dez seems or sounds like he's really committed to proving everyone wrong this year. Admitting that his head wasn't always in the game is alarming to me. Your number 1 receiver needs to be in the game all the time.

I hope they both do better this year, but if we part ways with Dez, it's not like we lost much in his recent performances with Romo or Dak.
You don't see players of Dez's age suddenly have the light go on and get it all together, but I'm willing to see if it happens in 2018 before cutting the cord.

 

[Melonfeud]

LOL. So true. His replacement will be immediately hated and I think the childish behavior demonstrated by the Romo hanger-ons will be much worse when it comes to Dezzies being upset.

Hey!,,,the GARRETT hosed #9 off the field with a pressure washer,anybody thinking the rookie in the #4 jersey was just so magically delicious in Q.B. superiority as compared to #9, are Beyond delusional in probably several regards.

Other than that,it is what it is,,,kinda' like having BOTH the C.S.A.&U.S.A. BATTLE FLAGS displayed as wall adornments in yer' man cave,held in bitter resentment by those whose ancestors were either too chicken**** to find a hill to die on,ignorant of the past histories
( we hang together or surely we will be hung separately) or,were just Rambo awesome in acts,deeds &convictions,,,yet held in the HIGHEST of esteem by those of insightful appreciation and understanding of the dictates of necessity,,,,



*glug-glug & glug*

 

[GORICO]

I'd like to keep Dez, and he's getting more than his fair share of crap from fans right now. But it sure didn't seem to slow the offense down under Dak when Dez missed time in 2016. He's not exactly essential to the offense, as we saw last season. If we cut him, we'll lose a very talented guy in that position group, but we'll probably be able to replace his production with a talented young WR and by spreading his targets to some of the guys already on the roster. It won't be crippling the way the loss of the LT was.

ldgit---my sentiments exactly....Daks completion rate to Dez was 50%...and 70% to all other receivers...Dez in actuality hurts out team...i would make a play for James Washington..runs 4.4 jumps 40 vert..weighs 215 and has 34 inch arms and catches in traffic well....he could do no worse than Dez but save cowboys 11 million post june 1 cut of Dez...that is including what we would pay Washington...use the 11 mil to keep Hitchens and Irving and pay for the whole rookie group and get a solid free agent too....i am back and forth with Dez...maybe he comes back with vengeance or maybe same disconnect between him and Dak?

 

[jazzcat22]

So just how many years has it been since Bryant was been among the top 3 or 5 in the league but this season would be the 3rd highest paid receiver? Bryant's days of being an elite receiver have been gone for years now and to hang on to him overpaying in the process is just foolishness.

Dez certainly has not lived up to his new contract. And he has had injuries the past 3 years. Not to mention he now has an inaccurate QB. Though Dez dropped more than his share of catchable balls. But many were off target, and some WAY OFF target, like throw 10 yards over his head on a 10 yard route when he was wide open.

So being paid like a top player, means you have to lead the NFL in your respective category based on how you are paid? The highest paid QB should then lead the NFL is passing and so forth?

I know what you are saying, and can't disagree Dez has not lived uptown that. But there are other circumstances involved as well.
So let's cut him because he didn't finish in the top 3 last year, or the year before, or the year before that, because of a broken foot?
Dang, only if they would have cut Tony when he got his rib broken and lung punctured, but still didn't get us to where we wanted to be in the end. Disk problem, no playoffs, cut the bum then.

 

[HappyOnions]

There's a team out there that would be willing to trade for him...

 

[cern]

It depends on what the smaller dog is packing.

it isn't so much about what you're packing but how well you use it.

 

[erod]

It's obvious you know very little about the cap. Restructuring contracts just adds more dead money down the road because the players who's contracts get restructured eventually get released and ergo more dead money. Second the cap has had years where it has only raised by just a few million dollars per team and the Cowboys who have until the past 2 or 3 years of restructuring only as a last resort have had dead money that was equaled or was greater than the increase in the cap. Last the peckers have better receivers than Bryant and have their own quandary of who to keep and who they will have to be release and they sure aren't going to then sign Bryant. Some of those receivers that have been drafted the past couple of years were drafted by teams that already had a #1 receiver and were looking to 1) find a cheaper one but didn't get a lot of playing time or 2) drafted to groom for a couple years down the road when their #1 contract is up. It is shear lunacy to say that there will be no receivers in this years draft that couldn't step in and do as well as Bryant has done the past couple of years at just a fraction of the cost. He probably would lead the league in anything but neither has Bryant for years.
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Lol, thanks, Captain Obvious, for the elementary explanation of the salary cap that everyone already understands.

The cap can ALWAYS be restructured if you want to fit somebody on your roster. Always.

 

[Chuck 54]

If Dez was in Green Bay......100 catches, 1,000 yards, 10+ TDs. With his eyes closed.

I'm not seeing that. The guy can't beat coverage on a regular basis because he's not a precise route runner.
8 years as the #1 guy, mostly with Romo.
Averaged 66.4 catches on 114.4 targets on average per year. (58%)
Averaged 932 yards, eclipsing 1,000 only 3 times
Averaged 9 TD's per year.

He's an 8 year veteran; he's not going to get better even if a change of scenery or focus here slightly inflates his stats the first year.

 

[Melonfeud]

Look at his numbers with Tony, look at his numbers with injuries and Dak...that tells most of it right there.

Duly noted!

 

[jazzcat22]

it isn't so much about what you're packing but how well you use it.

Very true, I always laugh at movies or TV shows. One even mentioned it one time.
About the people that use a gun, pointing it sideways. not going to hit a moving target as they always seem to do, holding it that way.
It is hard enough to hit a target with a gun held properly.
But this show a guy mentioned that..don't believe what you see in movies about holding a gun that way...then he punched the guy...LOL.

 

[uvaballa]

Only keep him for the right price. He has to take a pay cut.

Fix the D and run the ball. Then the WRs won’t matter as much.