News: The Price Tag for Zack Martin Continues to Rise

[MojaveJT]

Letting Martin go would be a big mistake. Looking at the numbers - it is a LOT of money but well worth it. Finding a worthy replacement to an all pro G is not as easy as some are making it sound.

 

[Mobinvans]

Letting Martin go would be a big mistake. Looking at the numbers - it is a LOT of money but well worth it. Finding a worthy replacement to an all pro G is not as easy as some are making it sound.

You don't need a all pro line be to win playoff games and get to the Superbowl

Dallas obviously thinks that though

 

[cowboyblue22]

and to just think the great wall of dallas didn't even have a first round pick on it and they won three superbowls in four years and we have three first round picks and still cant make one deep playoff run

 

[Mobinvans]

and to just think the great wall of dallas didn't even have a first round pick on it and they won three superbowls in four years and we have three first round picks and still cant make one deep playoff run

Exactly

 

[canters]

If we go heavy next month in the draft on the OL, like more than one guy in the top 4, I wonder even more if we are going to allow him to walk.

 

[MojaveJT]

You don't need a all pro line be to win playoff games and get to the Superbowl

Dallas obviously thinks that though

I agree with you to an extent but the run game is all we have at the moment. Passing game? Eh. If Zeke isn't effective then we're going to have a longgggg season.

If this FO can upgrade the WR core and if Dak can bounce back, I'm ok with replacing Martin and using that money somewhere else on the roster.

FWIW, if we can trade Martin for ET and some draft picks, I'd be ok with that.

 

[MyFairLady]

and to just think the great wall of dallas didn't even have a first round pick on it and they won three superbowls in four years and we have three first round picks and still cant make one deep playoff run

I let him play out the 5th year option. What is the rush. The more information we have before we make our decision the better. I agree with you to some extent. The o line is almost all getting paid now and we have not really had any success. Look at Lael.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I know Zack is one of the best G’s in football, but he is a G. Do we want to pay a G, 13 or more million a year. My point. Zack is only as good as the weakest link on the O line, especially when it comes to pass blocking. Look at last year, in general, our pass blocking was mediocre at best, and terrible at worst. I would rather have 5 solid O lineman and solid backups(see NE ) than 3 or 4 studs and below average backups. We spend way more money on our O line, than NE, and our O line was not near as effective as NE’s last year. I think we over spend on our O line starters and this causes us to go cheap in other areas. Personally, I would put more money into our D line. With a dominant D line all it takes is on guy to make a big play. Many a Super Bowl have been won by dominant D line play!! Jerry values, the SHOW, so we may never see a dominant D around here.

Great Post!
Over-kill for a G and our FAT offline will keep us Cap poor for years to come.....Defense what defense???
All our cap is invested in the offline and Dez....a great Defense will continue to be non-existent in Big D...
All defenses have to do aka Broncos is put 8 in the box and Zeke is a non-factor....
Let him walk and cut Dez and start building a Cowboy team that will be a force instead of the same old same old.....

 

[bleachedwheat]

I like the idea of investing in your o-line with the draft, over adding another 10% of the salary cap to it. Martin is a great player but in order to have a complete team you have to be able to spend money on those other parts. Right now the positional percentage the Cowboys are paying on the O-line is 22%. If you sign Martin at 12 million a year it is the same as Tron's percentage 10% add that to the rest of them; it comes out to around 33%. I don't like having to spend one third of teams entire salary cap on one position grouping, it's a determent to the rest of the team as a whole. If Martin was traded for a first and you plug in two brand new first round guards it will lower the cap percentage to just under 20%, that's more or less as much as I would want to allocate towards any one position group on the team. With the room they would have, they could resign Dak to a good contact and Zeke as well. I don' t think Dak is the guy though. I see them drafting a QB in the first next year to replace him, in this instance at least the O-line will have gelled for a year before throwing the new kid to the wolves.

 

[Hadenough]

Great Post!
Over-kill for a G and our FAT offline will keep us Cap poor for years to come.....Defense what defense???
All our cap is invested in the offline and Dez....a great Defense will continue to be non-existent in Big D...
All defenses have to do aka Broncos is put 8 in the box and Zeke is a non-factor....
Let him walk and cut Dez and start building a Cowboy team that will be a force instead of the same old same old.....

Some how some way the Cowboys need to find talent for the online in the later rounds and use some of those first round picks on defense. Let Martin play out his contract and in the meantime draft a 4th rounder and groom him to play guard.
This why the QB position is so important. If you don't have a QB that is good enough to carry the team then your money has to go I to carrying the QB. So between this offensive line and Dez and wait til Dak and Zeke get paid the defense is gonna be all FA walk ons.

 

[buybuydandavis]

You still have to trade him before or during next season or just lose him. Why not trade him now while teams have cap space.

Even if you decide you want to move him, you want to make sure that you've lined up a quality replacement for him first.

A few teams will shoot their wad in the meantime, but I bet plenty teams will continue to have cap space.

One thing - we get a 3rd out of him if we just let him go in free agency.

But since Martin would probably be the highest paid guard in the league, we're probably better off franchising him next year, and then paying him the average of the top 5 other guys. And then maybe franchising him again the year after that. 120% of the other top 5 still might be less than what we'd have to pay him as the new top contract.

I haven't heard anyone talk about using franchise tags on Martin in the future, but it seems like a good option, and simply the possibility of it is leverage against Martin to bring his contract down if he wants to lock in a long term contract and huge signing bonus.

 

[CCBoy]

I like the idea of investing in your o-line with the draft, over adding another 10% of the salary cap to it. Martin is a great player but in order to have a complete team you have to be able to spend money on those other parts. Right now the positional percentage the Cowboys are paying on the O-line is 22%. If you sign Martin at 12 million a year it is the same as Tron's percentage 10% add that to the rest of them; it comes out to around 33%. I don't like having to spend one third of teams entire salary cap on one position grouping, it's a determent to the rest of the team as a whole. If Martin was traded for a first and you plug in two brand new first round guards it will lower the cap percentage to just under 20%, that's more or less as much as I would want to allocate towards any one position group on the team. With the room they would have, they could resign Dak to a good contact and Zeke as well. I don' t think Dak is the guy though. I see them drafting a QB in the first next year to replace him, in this instance at least the O-line will have gelled for a year before throwing the new kid to the wolves.

Straight up, when did cash flow count more than players on the field...now that sounds like a current management beef.

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

We’ll let him walk in free agency to the highest bidder, while we get nothing in return.

 

[coult44]

I know Zack is one of the best G’s in football, but he is a G. Do we want to pay a G, 13 or more million a year. My point. Zack is only as good as the weakest link on the O line, especially when it comes to pass blocking. Look at last year, in general, our pass blocking was mediocre at best, and terrible at worst. I would rather have 5 solid O lineman and solid backups(see NE ) than 3 or 4 studs and below average backups. We spend way more money on our O line, than NE, and our O line was not near as effective as NE’s last year. I think we over spend on our O line starters and this causes us to go cheap in other areas. Personally, I would put more money into our D line. With a dominant D line all it takes is on guy to make a big play. Many a Super Bowl have been won by dominant D line play!! Jerry values, the SHOW, so we may never see a dominant D around here.

Some of you don't want to pay top tier free agents to come to Dallas, now some of y'all don't want to pay our best players to stay in Dallas. What's the plan, and who do you want to pay?

 

[Rayman70]

Letting Martin go would be a big mistake. Looking at the numbers - it is a LOT of money but well worth it. Finding a worthy replacement to an all pro G is not as easy as some are making it sound.

they don't grow on trees. Unless we wanna trade him for 3 first round picks..or when can find a team that has the will to pull the trigger on that,I would keep him.

 

[Trouty]

If we're seemingly not gonna spend the money in FA, we better re-sign Martin. Isn't it the point of not going out and grabbing players so that we can re-up our own? And Martin is a phenom guard. 5 Years, 70 million, 40 gtd.

 

[SiCk_DiAbLo]

To expensive, just trade him to Seattle for Earl Thomas and their first round draft pick this year. Then draft Isaiah Wynn and Will Hernandez at 18 and 19. Both guard spots locked up for 4 years with a fifth year option for cheap. Earl Thomas has the FS positon locked down and you can pay him because you don't have to pay Martin. Then you can worry about everything else knowing your offensive line is rock steady.

I agree, Cowboys can't be paying out money like this...Defense wins football games!!!

 

[Rayman70]

Martin may be the best olineman in the NFL, period. A close second would be Fred beard. We are truly blessed. That said,why on EARTH would we want to trade him and weaken our strongest unit? Makes no sense in that scenario. Even for 3 future 1st round picks I would have to think real hard about it.

 

[TheCount]

At this point, we might just have to draft Will Hernandez to avoid paying Martin like a franchise LT.

 

[Rayman70]

Go ahead and cast stones..I don't care,so lets go draft Will Hernandez and let him compete and win a spot at guard. Its a ton to invest in an already rich oline...but heck...why not make it so good that we are unstoppable?