If Dez Was Released Soley Over Money, Why Are Players Scared To Talk?

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The problem is Garrett isn’t a real leader. A real leader could handle egos and different personality types. Garrett needs all blue collar scholars that pay their taxes in a timely fashion.

In any business you have different personalities and it’s your job as a leader to manage those personalities in a way that brings out their potential for their own development for the benefit of the team. That’s why players are successful under some coaches and not under others.

Garrett wants no parts of conflict and he has an ego problem. He thinks as long as players execute his flawed system it will work. Romo said a month ago we never had anything to beat cover 4 but the coaches didn’t care because as long as they excute they’d be fine. This is a very flawed philosophy and responsible for our demise the last 10 years

I think garrett is good at what he is doing.

The things you demand from a person in a leading position is a bit overdone for my taste. Of course garretts job also is to put people in the right position to maximize their talent. But that is mostly true for the Coordinators and position coaches who work under him. Those have the job to put the players into the right position to succeed.

Now you can argue that they all hadnt the right approach with Dez Bryant. The werent able to handle his ego or to put him in the right position to succees.

Since Bryant was here it was always that coaches didnt use him right. They wouldnt let him motion. Let him play the slot. Run other routes. So many good coaches and nobody was able to do it right with Bryant. That makes me wonder if the problem wasnt with all thise coaches but with exactly one person (Dez Bryant).

Also you have to be able to work with different egos and form a team out of them. Get their mind focused on the main goal. But this goes only so far as your players want to do this also. You cant force people into something and a leader doesnt have the power nor the task to change players mindsets nor talents. On the contrary he has the task to put the whole team in a position to be the most successfull as it can be. He also has to get rid of distractions if he senses one. If he isnt able to handle a big ego of course you could say he is a weak leader. But that is away to simplistic kind of view. And it happens everywhere in every business. Is Godell a weak leader because he got rid of JJ when it came to the argument between them ? No. If you cant work with somebody it will always be a question of power. And Godell used his power and so did Garrett.

Humans are no gods. Everybody has its weaknesses and so does Garrett. Maybe he is not the leader you demand him to be. But then do you need that kind of leading person to have a successfull team? I dont think so.
 
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GOOD TEAMS WITH SOLID LOCKER ROOMS DONT TALK TO THE MEDiA, its an in house issue and should be kept that way..SM turds princesses want the drama, they do and nor do i..lets get ready for the draft and 2018..can we finally move on from Dez jeez the 101 threads about him should now cease until he finds new team and something new to talk about hes gone..
 

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Dez was a well liked dude. And Beasley isn’t actually afraid to say anything, or he wouldn’t have said what he said. Obviously.

There was dysfunction in the receiver room last season. That’s pretty obvious, and we already knew it. Whatever the power struggle was, Linehan won it and the position coaches have been flipped over.

Dez was let go because his production didn’t match his contract.
 

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GOOD TEAMS WITH SOLID LOCKER ROOMS DONT TALK TO THE MEDiA, its an in house issue and should be kept that way..SM turds princesses want the drama, they do and nor do i..lets get ready for the draft and 2018..can we finally move on from Dez jeez the 101 threads about him should now cease until he finds new team and something new to talk about hes gone..
I'm a little sick of all the Dez threads as well. Lets all move on folks. Its not like teams are beating down his door..sooooo.
 

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Dez was a well liked dude. And Beasley isn’t actually afraid to say anything, or he wouldn’t have said what he said. Obviously.

There was dysfunction in the receiver room last season. That’s pretty obvious, and we already knew it. Whatever the power struggle was, Linehan won it and the position coaches have been flipped over.

Dez was let go because his production didn’t match his contract.
And its that simple. He didn't live up to the spirit of his deal,thus he was cut in a football decision. There really is nothing else to see here.
 

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A lot of players were coming out about the offensive scheme. These players aren't dumb. if we can see the scheme sucks, obviously they can see it since they are the ones running it. They are 'scared to talk' because they don't want to be cut just yet... They need one more year to put on a show to get another team to pick them up. This is a sinking ship and I'm not surprised Irving, Lawrence and Martin aren't mad that they didn't get extended. This is pretty much an audition year for them where they can secure a huge paycheck and possibly go to a team that has an actual chance of winning a superbowl.
 

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A lot of players were coming out about the offensive scheme. These players aren't dumb. if we can see the scheme sucks, obviously they can see it since they are the ones running it. They are 'scared to talk' because they don't want to be cut just yet... They need one more year to put on a show to get another team to pick them up. This is a sinking ship and I'm not surprised Irving, Lawrence and Martin aren't mad that they didn't get extended. This is pretty much an audition year for them where they can secure a huge paycheck and possibly go to a team that has an actual chance of winning a superbowl.
Exactly Dez spoke up because he was the veteran in the locker room and he put his job on the line for the other guys. Kudos to him I think our coaching staff is garbage too Dez.
 

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The process of establishing a professional environment will take as long as there a people who fight against this and have a say in this whole thing (i dont wanna call out names)

Soooooo.......20 years to implement his program? By your definition JG can be here forever.
 

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A lot of players were coming out about the offensive scheme. These players aren't dumb. if we can see the scheme sucks, obviously they can see it since they are the ones running it. They are 'scared to talk' because they don't want to be cut just yet... They need one more year to put on a show to get another team to pick them up. This is a sinking ship and I'm not surprised Irving, Lawrence and Martin aren't mad that they didn't get extended. This is pretty much an audition year for them where they can secure a huge paycheck and possibly go to a team that has an actual chance of winning a superbowl.
again...its on Dez to perform,and he never did. Fine..blame scheme..but Elite receivers are suppose to be transcendent. He signed a very rich deal meant for an elite player...which for a short time,he was. As of the last 2 years he has really regressed effortwise..he had too many times where he dropped routine passes,gave up on routes,ran terrible routes...and flat out mentally gave up. Worst of all..he couldn't get open any longer. So it truly was a football decision in the spirit of improving the team. Nothing about it was personal.
 

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Exactly Dez spoke up because he was the veteran in the locker room and he put his job on the line for the other guys. Kudos to him I think our coaching staff is garbage too Dez.
I will give you that about the coaching...its shaky at best. But shame on Dez...men don't run their mouth on the way out the door.I am disappointed. How many games did we see where he simply had a mental meltdown of sorts and lost interest? TOO MANY. At one time he was uncoverable.But now he could rarely get any separation. He has clearly slowed.
 

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Its about living up to an agreement Dez. Love ya,but you failed the team. Yes...Scott Linehan and Derek Dooley had bad years too. Linehan left nothing to imagination. It was hard to watch. Dez is right to be critical..but in the end..just shut up and show some dignity. Take responsibility Dez. Wish you well. NEXT.
 

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Beasly is on Twitter saying that he cant say what he wants to or else "I might be next".

Now if Dez was released soley because of his contract, why would Beasly have anything to worry about? Why would Beasly need to be very restricted in what he says if he didn't believe Dez questioning the offense had a role in his release?

Beasly, and I suspect some other players, clearly do think Dez was released for questioning the team and that is why they are scared to say anything on social media for fearing reprisal from the organization.

That comment might make him next. He is a very good receiver but he gave hints of having a bit of an attitude. More smoke here. The smart move is for him to go about his business and shut his face.
 

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That comment might make him next. He is a very good receiver but he gave hints of having a bit of an attitude. More smoke here. The smart move is for him to go about his business and shut his face.
COULDNT AGREE MORE. Produce..shut up and you get to have a job here. Otherwise..theres the door. This is how any job in America works.Same in sports. Its not a right. Its a privledge.
 

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Dak isn't "bad", he was terrible for half the season but let's not pretend he didn't start the year strong.

I have zero confidence in the coaching staff, so I have no idea how to evaluate these guys.

Even Zeke looked pretty pedestrian for most of the year. There isn't a single player that had a strong 2017 other than Lawrence and Irving (when he was healthy).

I think a lot of that was because the OL played subpar for a large part of the year. That's why I think we will go OL in the first round.
 

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I think a lot of that was because the OL played subpar for a large part of the year. That's why I think we will go OL in the first round.
WELL SAID. That's my gut feeling. Receiver is far from a forgone conclusion at 19. I still think Oline is very much a top priority. HERNANDEZ? hmmm. I see us fortifying the oline/dline and linebackers,and somewhere in the middle addressing the TE position. I don't see receiver as this pressing need everyone seems to think it is. Its more pressing that we protect our franchise QB so he doesn't end up in a pine box. Last years Atlanta game and others is case and point.
 

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Dez was a well liked dude. And Beasley isn’t actually afraid to say anything, or he wouldn’t have said what he said. Obviously.

There was dysfunction in the receiver room last season. That’s pretty obvious, and we already knew it. Whatever the power struggle was, Linehan won it and the position coaches have been flipped over.

Dez was let go because his production didn’t match his contract.

Dez was let go partly because of his production bs cap him. It was more than just money or they would have made him an offer at a lesser rate. They were done with him no matter what. It wasn't just business.
 

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WELL SAID. That's my gut feeling. Receiver is far from a forgone conclusion at 19. I still think Oline is very much a top priority. HERNANDEZ? hmmm. I see us fortifying the oline/dline and linebackers,and somewhere in the middle addressing the TE position. I don't see receiver as this pressing need everyone seems to think it is. Its more pressing that we protect our franchise QB so he doesn't end up in a pine box. Last years Atlanta game and others is case and point.

We could get by a lot easier with who we have at receiver with no additions than we could on the OL. That would be a problem.
 

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I think a lot of that was because the OL played subpar for a large part of the year. That's why I think we will go OL in the first round.

I’d rather see them coach up three pro-bowlers than spending another 1st on the line, but there are worse options.

Unless the coaches are incompetent, which I believe they likely are, they should be able to coach two guys up enough to play next to those guys.

All things being equal, the premium picks should be going to the defense – especially since we did nothing in FA to improve it.
 

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Several things:

1. It definitely wasn't just about money, as Dez wasn't even offered a pay cut.

2. Garrett isn't powerful in the sense that he actually controls things, but he does have Stephen and Jerry's ear, and if he whines long enough to them that he can't win with such-and-such player or coach, the Joneses may eventually agree.

3. Garrett's always been a no-accountability snake, going back to when he was OC and let Wade take all the bullets even for his own unacceptable mistakes (e.g. Tashard Choice fumble to lose the Skins opener). He's always leaked scapegoats to the media to protect his own reputation, whether that be Crayton, TO, Newman, Callahan, Rob Ryan, or even Tony Romo.

The only thing worse than Garrett might be the DFW media who have bought into his superficial facade from the start and consistently refused to hold him accountable despite many years of mediocre (at best) results.
 
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