NFL Rumors: Here’s What’s Stalling Potential Earl Thomas-Cowboys Trade

[Stash]

Meh. This team has figured it out before and will again.

That sounds short-sighted to me. Again, it all counts.

 

[Teague31]

Give them our comp 4 and Beasley. That’s about as high as I would go

 

[erod]

That's what I fear.

Not only by them, but then by Earl Thomas' agent when we overpay him on that next contract.

The contract needs to be agreed to prior to the trade.

 

[NeonNinja]

I would offer our third and possibly add a player if needed. ET would be fantastic for our secondary.

 

[glimmerman]

Let’s just keep our picks and see what happens after June 1st. No other team is going to make a offer on him.

 

[Ebnorice]

When was the last time the cowboys traded a 1st or second round pick for a player?

Roy Williams

 

[Stash]

Sure seems that way, especially if he's telling other teams he won't sign an extension with them. He's unrestricted in a few months, and this would really be a PR nightmare during the upcoming season.

They either have to back up the money truck now, or trade him. After the draft, it's even worse for them.

This could literally happen when Dallas in on the clock for a pick.

As long it's in the third round or later. Otherwise, don't answer the phone!

 

[Stash]

The contract needs to be agreed to prior to the trade.

I think you'd have to have the trade parameters worked out with Seattle before you talked contract with Thomas. You wouldn't get permission before then.

 

[erod]

As long it's in the third round or later. Otherwise, don't answer the phone!

Yes, because how will we get by without another Gavin Escobar or Randy Gregory?

 

[erod]

I think you'd have to have the trade parameters worked out with Seattle before you talked contract with Thomas. You wouldn't get permission before then.

They can give you permission. They may have already.

 

[Stash]

Yes, because how will we get by without another Gavin Escobar or Randy Gregory?

Or Chidobe Awuzie? Or Sean Lee? Or Demarcus Lawrence?

Is this where we're going now?

 

[Stash]

They can give you permission. They may have already.

Not unless they're getting acceptable draft compensation they're not. Otherwise, you're left with an even more disgruntled player that knows that another team will pay him the money he wants. Gasoline on a fire.

 

[erod]

Or Chidobe Awuzie? Or Sean Lee? Or Demarcus Lawrence?

Is this where we're going now?

Awuzie, I hope, but we'll see.

Demarcus Lawrence was a very early second round pick. Sean Lee was injured, so he dropped. Those usually are iffy at best.

 

[Jarv]

I hope we don't give up a 2nd

Agreed, wait a year if we still want him next year.

 

[Bleu Star]

Sure seems that way, especially if he's telling other teams he won't sign an extension with them. He's unrestricted in a few months, and this would really be a PR nightmare during the upcoming season.

They either have to back up the money truck now, or trade him. After the draft, it's even worse for them.

This could literally happen when Dallas in on the clock for a pick.

I'm thinking it's going to be a fun moment when we are on the clock at pick #81, 116, or 137.

GETCHA POPCORN READY!

 

[Stash]

Awuzie, I hope, but we'll see.

Demarcus Lawrence was a very early second round pick. Sean Lee was injured, so he dropped. Those usually are iffy at best.

But second round picks just the same.

I'm just saying that I'm not just throwing around a draft resource like that. As you pointed out, this team has done that far too often already.

 

[rags747]

I like ET but my gawd, so many here act like he’s the cornerstone to a championship. He’s going into his 9th season, is 29 years old, hasn’t played a full season since 2015. I’m not knocking him. Great player from 2010-2015. But now? Not sure.

Again, he has been a great player, but for how much longer? I wouldn’t mind having him around for sure. BUT- at what price and for how long? He’s a FA next year, which means we must also be careful about signing a guy at this age to anything more than an incentive laden, team friendly, short term deal.

Trading for a guy like Earl Thomas is usually a move made by a team that is “one key player away” from glory. Are the Cowboys that kind of team? No. Can we make some noise next year? Maybe. But this team needs a lot more than a 29 year old safety who hasn’t been injury free in 2 years. Caution flags!!!

Agreed, will be 30 soon and has been injured and will be expensive. He is not the missing link for this team. I don't even want to give up a third for him but will accept it, feel better with a 4th and maybe a player.

 

[rkell87]

Not "my logic", draft pick logic.

For instance, if you offer a team a first rounder next year, its only worth a second rounder this year. A one round depreciation to get a pick sooner.

It stands to reason that the same should hold true for any compensatory pick. Even more so, because those picks aren't even awarded until after all of the regular picks for that round are given.

Does it make sense now?

No because this isn't trading an unknown next year for an unknown this year. If you net a third in compensatory picks the player you lost was one of the best players available in free agency. For that reason he is worth at least 3rd this year. The reason he isn't worth more than a third is because of the salary we have to take on and the risk that we only get one year from the player as he will have no obligation to sign with us unless we franchise him.

 

[CowboyRoy]

https://nesn.com/2018/04/nfl-rumors-heres-whats-stalling-potential-earl-thomas-cowboys-trade/


NFL Rumors: Here’s What’s Stalling Potential Earl Thomas-Cowboys Trade


Earl Thomas has stated his loyalty to the Seattle Seahawks, but the rumors of the star safety joining another NFC team refuse to die down.The Dallas Cowboys reportedly have had their eye on Thomas for some time. The feeling appears to be mutual, as the six-time Pro Bowl selection was spotted chatting with Jason Garrett after a Cowboys-Seahawks clash last season, advising Dallas’ coach to bring him to America’s Team. But if you’re wondering why there’s been no action despite the long-standing chatter, it might be due to Seattle’s expected high asking price for the defensive stalwart.

“The Cowboys have contacted the Seahawks about a potential draft trade,” the Star-Telegram’s Clarence E. Hill Jr. writes. “But the Seattle asking price of a first- and third-round draft pick was too high. The Cowboys are holding out hope that their asking price goes down to maybe a second-round pick.” While a player of Thomas’ caliber is worth a sizable haul, pressure could force the Seahawks to lower their demands. Thomas is set to enter the final year of his contract before becoming an unrestricted free agent at the conclusion of the 2018 campaign. Out of fear of losing him for nothing, Seattle might have to make a business decision. And if the Seahawks go that route, it sounds like the Cowboys will be chomping at the bit to make a deal.

They would absolute morons to give up anything other than a 4th rounder for a guy that a year from now they can get for nothing.

 

[Stash]

No because this isn't trading an unknown next year for an unknown this year.

No, but it's still a pick not one, but two years earlier. They'd get Dallas' actual third rounder - higher than any compensatory pick - in -018 rather than 2020.

If you net a third in compensatory picks the player you lost was one of the best players available in free agency. For that reason he is worth at least 3rd this year. The reason he isn't worth more than a third is because of the salary we have to take on and the risk that we only get one year from the player as he will have no obligation to sign with us unless we franchise him.

The salary is certainly a factor, but the two year timing between when Seattle gets the pick is certainly a factor as well.