Tony Romo for HOF

[Sarge]

Did you quote and agree to your own post? lol

Yes I did. Thank you.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Yes I did. Thank you.

The worst part is you see nothing wrong with it lmao. Your a mod can you like your own posts too? lol

 

[Sarge]

The worst part is you see nothing wrong with it lmao. Your a mod can you like your own posts too? lol

I'm working on that.

 

[G2]

A few comments about the OP, the first of which is, like it or not, post season participation and success plays a big part in HOF voting. And it’s not just Suoer Bowl wins, SB appearances, playoff appearances, playoff wins ... they all matters to voters.

Second is it’s not really relevant to compare Romo to guys like Fouts or players of that era or before, because things change over time. When Fouts retired he was one of the top 5 passers of all time. He is further down the list now, but he isn’t being voted on now. He was judged by where he stood at the time.

Talking about how Romo’s numbers would project if he had played as long as others, or if he had averaged for his full career the number of TDs he did his last few years doesn’t factor in. He didn’t do those things so he won’t get credit from voters as if he did.

All this said, I certainly think Romo should be a solid candidate for the HOF, but ultimately I don’t think he will make it because with so few post season appearances, and so little post season success I don’t think he will get enough voter support.

Besides that, there were a group of better QBs in his era that will get in.

 

[Nightman]

Did you quote and agree to your own post? lol

Just because you can't LIKE your own post

 

[DFWJC]

It's his own fault. 2006 and 2007 were the best chances we had and was probably the best teams weve had since the 90's. If he doesn't fumble the snap in 2006 I think we make it. 2007 he decided he wanted to be a big shot and go to cabo in the bye week and plays like dog ****. 18-36 for 201 yards 1 td 1 int. passer rating of 64. I wish people would stop praising a guy who never showed up to a big game. His up and down play irritated the hell out of me. I'm glad he's gone.

Again...I'm NOT one arguing HOF for Romo.

But come on....He literally threw the game-winning TD pass on 3rd down at the end of that game in 2007 season playoffs.
He can't run the route for Crayton. He can't run down there and hand it to him.



And the Cabo stuff is just comical. 2 hours from Dallas. The team is scattered all over the country or in strip clubs in Dallas on its bye week and somehow a 2 hour flight to chill out at the beach for a couple of days is terrible. And though the facilities were closed that week and they were told to stay always, Garrett says Romo actually snuck in the day before he left to study film.
Come on. I agree that the 2007 team was really good (not really 2006 though) but some of the stuff you're throwing out is just off. He led the entire NFL in playoff QB rating in 2014, for example.

I get it, we've been through this with others around here for years. Like everyone, he made his mistakes. But I guess with you new guys coming in from the other forum, we have to go through it all again.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Again...I'm NOT one arguing HOF for Romo.

But come on....He literally threw the game-winning TD pass on 3rd down at the end of that game in 2007 season playoffs.
He can't run the route for Crayton. He can't run down there and hand it to him.



And the Cabo stuff is just comical. 2 hours from Dallas. The team is scattered all over the country or in strip clubs in Dallas on its bye week and somehow a 2 hour flight to chill out at the beach for a couple of days is terrible. And though the facilities were closed that week and they were told to stay always, Garrett says Romo actually snuck in the day before he left to study film.
Come on. I agree that the 2007 team was really good (not really 2006 though) but some of the stuff you're throwing out is just off. He led the entire NFL in playoff QB rating in 2014, for example.

I get it, we've been through this with others around here for years. Like everyone, he made his mistakes. But I guess with you new guys coming in from the other forum, we have to go through it all again.

If he was that good he would have had us in the playoffs every year. No matter how bad the packers are talent wise rodgers carries them to a playoff appearance. Fact is he was never good enough. You know his defense actually played pretty well in playoff games, he never held up his end.

 

[8FOR!3]

"true greatness was never achieved and that is such a travesty." that comment right there disqualifies anyone from making the HOF.

I disagree with the sentiment. If you believe that then I think you’re basically saying you have to win a super bowl to be a hall of famer. Bc Romo’s greatness as a player and QB speaks for itself the only thing he lacks is super bowl rings. Any bad reputation he’s ever had outside of that is media driven (him not being clutch) and statistically able to be proven false.

But with the media narrative of him being a choke artist, his lack of longevity and super bowl rings I do agree that he won’t be selected. Still think his actual skills and play were that of a hall of famer though

 

[G2]

He literally threw the game-winning TD pass on 3rd down at the end of that game in 2007 season playoffs.
He can't run the route for Crayton. He can't run down there and hand it to him.



And the Cabo stuff is just comical. 2 hours from Dallas. The team is scattered all over the country or in strip clubs in Dallas on its bye week and somehow a 2 hour flight to chill out at the beach for a couple of days is terrible. And though the facilities were closed that week and they were told to stay always, Garrett says Romo actually snuck in the day before he left to study film.
Come on. I agree that the 2007 team was really good (not really 2006 though) but some of the stuff you're throwing out is just off. He led the entire NFL in playoff QB rating in 2014, for example.

I get it, we've been through this with others around here for years. Like everyone, he made his mistakes. But I guess with you new guys coming in from the other forum, we have to go through it all again.

When Romo was playing throughout the years some fans dogged the crap out of him from the old official forum. I try to be realistic especially when fans spew nonsense like the Cabo trip, smiling on the sidelines, wearing his hat backward, being fat and out of shape, dating celebrities....etc.. None of that made any sense or effect on his game.

That doesn't mean he's a HOF'r. He's just not. He never really got over the hump. He missed on opportunities to advance. He was injured a lot. And, during his era there were a handful of much better QB's on a more consistent basis with much more postseason success.

Sorry the new guys breached your sanctuary.

 

[G2]

I disagree with the sentiment. If you believe that then I think you’re basically saying you have to win a super bowl to be a hall of famer. Bc Romo’s greatness as a player and QB speaks for itself the only thing he lacks is super bowl rings. Any bad reputation he’s ever had outside of that is media driven (him not being clutch) and statistically able to be proven false.

But with the media narrative of him being a choke artist, his lack of longevity and super bowl rings I do agree that he won’t be selected. Still think his actual skills and play were that of a hall of famer though

No, he's also lacking Super Bowl appearances, championships and other postseason wins.

 

[DFWJC]

If he was that good he would have had us in the playoffs every year. No matter how bad the packers are talent wise Rodgers carries them to a playoff appearance. Fact is he was never good enough. You know his defense actually played pretty well in playoff games, he never held up his end.

Well, Aaron Rodgers is better than Romo and almost any other QB to ever play.
But even then, he certainly never played with the 32nd ranked defense while leading them to the playoffs. Never happened.

 

[DFWJC]

When Romo was playing throughout the years some fans dogged the crap out of him from the old official forum. I try to be realistic especially when fans spew nonsense like the Cabo trip, smiling on the sidelines, wearing his hat backward, being fat and out of shape, dating celebrities....etc.. None of that made any sense or effect on his game.

That doesn't mean he's a HOF'r. He's just not. He never really got over the hump. He missed on opportunities to advance. He was injured a lot. And, during his era there were a handful of much better QB's on a more consistent basis with much more postseason success.

Sorry the new guys breached your sanctuary.

Well...you just said everything I've been saying, so not sure what sanctuary you're referring to.

 

[G2]

Well, Aaron Rodgers is better than Romo and almost any other QB to ever play.
But even then, he certainly never played with the 32nd ranked defense while leading them to the playoffs. Never happened.

Romo also didn't play with a 32nd ranked defense for 13 years.

 

[DFWJC]

Romo also didn't play with a 32nd ranked defense for 13 years.

nobody said he did. Just one year..2013. And they miraculously went 8-8 anyway. And to get them to 8-7 and in position for the playoffs, he threw the game-winning TD pass on the road with a season-ending herniated disc. But some say he "never" delivered. The worst record they ever had with him starting the majority of the season was 8-8

5__winning seasons
3__.500 seasons
0 __losing seasons

Anyway, I was replying to the post implying that Rodgers did and would take his team tot he playoffs no matter how bad the other players were..
No arguing that Rodgers was better, but that's a bit much

 

[G2]

nobody said he did. Just one year. And they miraculously went 8-8 anyway. The worst record they ever had with him starting the majority of the season
5__winning seasons
3__.500 seasons
0 __losing seasons

Anyway, I was replying to the post implying that Rodgers did and would take his team tot he playoffs no matter how bad the other players were..
No arguing that Rodgers was better, but that's a bit much

To be fair and as much as I like Romo, Rodgers is simply a better QB. Some of his late season performances have been incredible and that's with a bunch of players out and playing with injuries. Another level.

 

[DFWJC]

To be fair and as much as I like Romo, Rodgers is simply a better QB. Some of his late season performances have been incredible and that's with a bunch of players out and playing with injuries. Another level.

Of course he is.
Some argue he's the best ever. The fact that some even consider it means he's at another level than almost anyone...certainly Romo.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Well, Aaron Rodgers is better than Romo and almost any other QB to ever play.
But even then, he certainly never played with the 32nd ranked defense while leading them to the playoffs. Never happened.

We also had 3 top 10 defenses with romo. So theres that. I think Dak might have more losses where we've scored over 30 points than romo ever has.

 

[visionary]

Way too many negative threads lately. So I thought I'd throw my argument out there for some walk on nobody who became a great QB and totally deserves recognition in the HOF.

The true greatness of Tony Romo was never achieved and that is such a travesty. An undrafted player who’s star was so bright for such a short time. There are a lot of great QB’s who have not reached the big game. Even Brett Favre only won one SB in 19 years. Tony played 127 games and is 22nd all time in TDs with 248. That’s a total of just 8 full seasons of games and he’s 22nd all time in TDs!

Comparing his stats with some other notable HOF's that have less TD's than Tony.


Kurt Warner 124 games, 40 less TD's and more picks. Almost 2000 less yards, odd for the greatest show on turf.

Jim Kelly 160 games, 237 TD's, in almost 30 more games than Romo. 175 picks, ouch.

Steve Young 169 games, 232 TD's, only one season over 4000 yards passing, which surprised me.

These guys all played in pass happy offenses. Romo has more TD throws and a higher QB rating than all of them. The big knock is no SB.


Dan Fouts 181 games (14 years) Despite playing in Air Coryell system that has boasted the #1 receiving corp of all time, has only 6 more TD's than Tony, but in 54 more games. 242 picks! twice as many picks. No SB.

Romo has 7000 more yards and 75 more TDs than Joe Namath in less seasons. 50 more TD's than Ken Stabler in 57 less games. If Romo played one more season he would have easily passed Montana in TD's. Montana played 15 years! All these QB’s played in a pass happy system.

If Romo had played as long as Eli or Rivers (13 years) and averaged 31 TDs (average of his last 4 full seasons) (I know, injuries aside). He would project to over 400 TDs.

Who can forget winning on the road in SanFran down 13 in the 4th, comes back and wins, throws for 345 yards with a punctured lung and broken rib.

On the road in Washington, drives for the win in the final minutes with a herniated disc.


Romo has almost 100 more TD's than Roger Staubach. 83 more than Aikman in 38 less games.

Cowboy records: TD’s, yards, TD’s in a season, 300yard games, 3+ TD games. 4th qtr come backs (28) Lowest career interception percentage. 2.6% (how about that?)

NFL records:
4th highest passer rating 97.1
16th all time in 4th quarter comebacks
5th all time in completion percentage.
4th best career passer rating. (Aikman was 54th)
Tied for 5th all time in yards per attempt. (no dinking and dunking)
Romo has a career 40-27 road record. (my personal favorite)
Most consecutive road games with at least 1 TD (41)
Highest QB rating in Dec. 133.7
Highest QB rating in the 4th quarter.
Most games in a season with a passer rating of at least 135.0

All in all Romo holds 22 team and NFL records.

Quick, please list ALL HOF QBs who never even appeared in a conference championship game?

I'll wait

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

Again...I'm NOT one arguing HOF for Romo.

But come on....He literally threw the game-winning TD pass on 3rd down at the end of that game in 2007 season playoffs.
He can't run the route for Crayton. He can't run down there and hand it to him.



And the Cabo stuff is just comical. 2 hours from Dallas. The team is scattered all over the country or in strip clubs in Dallas on its bye week and somehow a 2 hour flight to chill out at the beach for a couple of days is terrible. And though the facilities were closed that week and they were told to stay always, Garrett says Romo actually snuck in the day before he left to study film.
Come on. I agree that the 2007 team was really good (not really 2006 though) but some of the stuff you're throwing out is just off. He led the entire NFL in playoff QB rating in 2014, for example.

I get it, we've been through this with others around here for years. Like everyone, he made his mistakes. But I guess with you new guys coming in from the other forum, we have to go through it all again.

His teammates always let him down. Throughout his career. Fasano dropped an easy TD in that game too. Crayton also dropped a 3rd down conversion earlier in that game.

Unfortunately QBs are many times measured by team accomplishments. If you have the stats and team accomplishments usually that’ll be enough for HOF. It’s tough to get in with just stats. If he would’ve had 2-3 more years of playing well there’s no doubt he’s probably make it.

He could get in as a player/contributer if he becomes a broadcasting legend.

 

[Whyjerry]

Way too many negative threads lately. So I thought I'd throw my argument out there for some walk on nobody who became a great QB and totally deserves recognition in the HOF.

The true greatness of Tony Romo was never achieved and that is such a travesty. An undrafted player who’s star was so bright for such a short time. There are a lot of great QB’s who have not reached the big game. Even Brett Favre only won one SB in 19 years. Tony played 127 games and is 22nd all time in TDs with 248. That’s a total of just 8 full seasons of games and he’s 22nd all time in TDs!

Comparing his stats with some other notable HOF's that have less TD's than Tony.


Kurt Warner 124 games, 40 less TD's and more picks. Almost 2000 less yards, odd for the greatest show on turf.

Jim Kelly 160 games, 237 TD's, in almost 30 more games than Romo. 175 picks, ouch.

Steve Young 169 games, 232 TD's, only one season over 4000 yards passing, which surprised me.

These guys all played in pass happy offenses. Romo has more TD throws and a higher QB rating than all of them. The big knock is no SB.


Dan Fouts 181 games (14 years) Despite playing in Air Coryell system that has boasted the #1 receiving corp of all time, has only 6 more TD's than Tony, but in 54 more games. 242 picks! twice as many picks. No SB.

Romo has 7000 more yards and 75 more TDs than Joe Namath in less seasons. 50 more TD's than Ken Stabler in 57 less games. If Romo played one more season he would have easily passed Montana in TD's. Montana played 15 years! All these QB’s played in a pass happy system.

If Romo had played as long as Eli or Rivers (13 years) and averaged 31 TDs (average of his last 4 full seasons) (I know, injuries aside). He would project to over 400 TDs.

Who can forget winning on the road in SanFran down 13 in the 4th, comes back and wins, throws for 345 yards with a punctured lung and broken rib.

On the road in Washington, drives for the win in the final minutes with a herniated disc.


Romo has almost 100 more TD's than Roger Staubach. 83 more than Aikman in 38 less games.

Cowboy records: TD’s, yards, TD’s in a season, 300yard games, 3+ TD games. 4th qtr come backs (28) Lowest career interception percentage. 2.6% (how about that?)

NFL records:
4th highest passer rating 97.1
16th all time in 4th quarter comebacks
5th all time in completion percentage.
4th best career passer rating. (Aikman was 54th)
Tied for 5th all time in yards per attempt. (no dinking and dunking)
Romo has a career 40-27 road record. (my personal favorite)
Most consecutive road games with at least 1 TD (41)
Highest QB rating in Dec. 133.7
Highest QB rating in the 4th quarter.
Most games in a season with a passer rating of at least 135.0

All in all Romo holds 22 team and NFL records.

Zero chance for HOF. Very little playoff success. Fair or not he has a choker reputation. Romo was a good QB but also a stat compiler in a pass happy league. The players you comped him against are all much better. His type does not get in.