News: BTB: Dak Was Never the Problem, It Was the Receivers. Here’s the Proof

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The numbers were better then the hate hysteria would lead you to believe was the point.
Funny I followed the beginning middle and end rather easily.

The point was to make excuses.

If you think the article made logical points that supported the conclusion, that's on you.

The last post I quoted was pointing to a particularly poor logical argument.
 

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I haven’t written a post in a while, but seeing comments that continue to reflect ignorance about Dak Prescott’s performance the past two years has spurred me into action.

I humbly ask that people read the whole article and digest it before sticking with their anti-Dak beliefs.

A few inconvenient facts for those that believe Dak isn’t a franchise QB.

COMPLETION PERCENTAGE

Rookie year: 67.8

Year two: 62.9

It fell off a bit with more pressure and sacks given up by the offensive line and the absence of Zeke for six games, combined with some pretty horrendous game planning by coaches. Also, the fact that Dez was no longer a true number one receiver was a massive problem, because he was still demanding excessive targets and getting them.

That second year percentage for Dak was still better than Carson Wentz or Jared Goff.

YARDS PER COMPLETION

If you believe Dak is only good for short passes, your beliefs are wrong. Sorry, but the facts clearly blow up that myth.

COMPLETED AIR YARDS

Rookie year: 7.5

Second year: 6.6

His rookie year, Dak had an average completion percentage through the air that was higher than Tom Brady, Carson Wentz or Drew Brees.

As everyone knows, the offensive line had protection issues in 2017. Dak had less time to throw. Zeke was gone for six games.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...problem-it-was-the-receivers-here-s-the-proof

Daks play the last 8 games of last season definitely put the brakes on the hype train.

He wasnt good, but its also possible his play was a symptom of an overall offensive break down, and not the cause.

Our highly touted oline fell apart, our wrs played below thier abilities, and we missed Zeke dearly.

Dak couldnt hit the broad side of a barn during that stretch. I realize that wasnt all his fault he was playing under very difficult circumstances, and his injury hurt him more than people think imo.

That said he still deserves his share of the burden. This season will say alot about the player he is going to be. I for one will give him the benefit of the doubt and expect him to shine.
 

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But they were the exact same WR’s he was throwing to when he had a great year in ‘16. The entire WR Corp all regressed in the off season? How does that even make sense??

I know I’m beating a dead horse, but the coaching staff failed the team last year. No doubt both Dak and the WR’s could have been better, but opposing coordinators figured out our scheme (because it was the exact same from the year before) and we had absolutely no counter punch. Just more insisting on execution rather than game plan to help the offense.


It's like Romo said.. Tendencies.. Once you show your tendencies and teams adjust what do you do next?

Dallas coaching did a poor job staying ahead of their tendencies.
 

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Fred Astaire couldn't even have good footwork behind our oline last year. The times he did have a clean pocket were rare..but when he did,his receivers just failed him on route running...hence..the int's. we got exposed last year.
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It all comes down to winning. Without the winning wave his Rookie season he wouldn’t have kicked Romo to the curb.

I was a Romo critic also and felt while he elevated us wasn’t enough to overcome all of our dysfunctions.

If we only have 2017 to measure Dak then we are much more concerned but fortunately we have his remarkable Rookie season which gives us hope.

Don’t fool yourself how critical winning is. If Dak isn’t enough to overcome anymore than Romo was he’s going to be criticized as well without more team success unless he plays at a MVP level or leads league in passing despite the team.
 

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Watch the video on YouTube.

Not going to Post the link. We’ve all watched it by now.

Dak has issues.

Hopefully they cleaned up his tech problems and we are good.

If not, then we know why Mike White was drafted.

Everyone knows, including the Cowboys, that Dak has shortcomings, but adding Mike White was smart. Competition is always good. The Cowboys are hedging their bets.
 

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I haven’t written a post in a while, but seeing comments that continue to reflect ignorance about Dak Prescott’s performance the past two years has spurred me into action.

I humbly ask that people read the whole article and digest it before sticking with their anti-Dak beliefs.

A few inconvenient facts for those that believe Dak isn’t a franchise QB.

COMPLETION PERCENTAGE

Rookie year: 67.8

Year two: 62.9

It fell off a bit with more pressure and sacks given up by the offensive line and the absence of Zeke for six games, combined with some pretty horrendous game planning by coaches. Also, the fact that Dez was no longer a true number one receiver was a massive problem, because he was still demanding excessive targets and getting them.

That second year percentage for Dak was still better than Carson Wentz or Jared Goff.

YARDS PER COMPLETION

If you believe Dak is only good for short passes, your beliefs are wrong. Sorry, but the facts clearly blow up that myth.

COMPLETED AIR YARDS

Rookie year: 7.5

Second year: 6.6

His rookie year, Dak had an average completion percentage through the air that was higher than Tom Brady, Carson Wentz or Drew Brees.

As everyone knows, the offensive line had protection issues in 2017. Dak had less time to throw. Zeke was gone for six games.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...problem-it-was-the-receivers-here-s-the-proof

I don't know why we can't realize that when the offense fails there are multiple problems, including the quarterback.

The receivers failed to get open and make plays at times. The line absolutely failed at times both early in the season when Collins was adjusting and we were playing who wants to start at left guard and later when Tyron's back flared up and the backups played like turnstiles. The running game was not as good as the previous year. And the quarterback missed some throws he should have made and got sloppy with his technique some.

Does it just make us feel better to try to exonerate some of the individuals involved. Dak can and should be expected to get better. After all, this was just his second year in the pros.
 

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I haven’t written a post in a while, but seeing comments that continue to reflect ignorance about Dak Prescott’s performance the past two years has spurred me into action.

I humbly ask that people read the whole article and digest it before sticking with their anti-Dak beliefs.

A few inconvenient facts for those that believe Dak isn’t a franchise QB.

COMPLETION PERCENTAGE

Rookie year: 67.8

Year two: 62.9

It fell off a bit with more pressure and sacks given up by the offensive line and the absence of Zeke for six games, combined with some pretty horrendous game planning by coaches. Also, the fact that Dez was no longer a true number one receiver was a massive problem, because he was still demanding excessive targets and getting them.

That second year percentage for Dak was still better than Carson Wentz or Jared Goff.

YARDS PER COMPLETION

If you believe Dak is only good for short passes, your beliefs are wrong. Sorry, but the facts clearly blow up that myth.

COMPLETED AIR YARDS

Rookie year: 7.5

Second year: 6.6

His rookie year, Dak had an average completion percentage through the air that was higher than Tom Brady, Carson Wentz or Drew Brees.

As everyone knows, the offensive line had protection issues in 2017. Dak had less time to throw. Zeke was gone for six games.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...problem-it-was-the-receivers-here-s-the-proof
I'm rooting for Dak to take the next step this year. But all the receivers were the issue? Really?
Let's just hope "It's the rookie receivers fault" doesn't become this year's excuse.
 

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It all comes down to winning. Without the winning wave his Rookie season he wouldn’t have kicked Romo to the curb.

I was a Romo critic also and felt while he elevated us some wasn’t enough to overcome all of our dysfunctions.

If we only have 2017 to measure Dak then we are much more concerned but fortunately we have his remarkable Rookie season which gives us hope.

Don’t fool yourself how critical winning is. If Dak isn’t enough to overcome anymore than Romo was he’s going to be criticized as well without more team success unless he plays at a MVP level despite the team regardless how much we like or support him.

I grew up when sportsmanship was reflected by players and fans alike.

My values are on the quality of play, even if not always the best, but in effort offered and sacrifices endured. That's football, and not America's Got Talent.
 

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It all comes down to winning. Without the winning wave his Rookie season he wouldn’t have kicked Romo to the curb.

I was a Romo critic also and felt while he elevated us wasn’t enough to overcome all of our dysfunctions.

If we only have 2017 to measure Dak then we are much more concerned but fortunately we have his remarkable Rookie season which gives us hope.

Don’t fool yourself how critical winning is. If Dak isn’t enough to overcome anymore than Romo was he’s going to be criticized as well without more team success unless he plays at a MVP level despite the team regardless how much we like or support him.
your right.Win and your a God...all is forgiven. All it takes is 1 Lombardy. Unfortunately when your a QB...and especially the QB of Americas team..you take all the credit AND THE BLAME. Just how it goes.
 

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It all comes down to winning. Without the winning wave his Rookie season he wouldn’t have kicked Romo to the curb.

I was a Romo critic also and felt while he elevated us wasn’t enough to overcome all of our dysfunctions.

If we only have 2017 to measure Dak then we are much more concerned but fortunately we have his remarkable Rookie season which gives us hope.

Don’t fool yourself how critical winning is. If Dak isn’t enough to overcome anymore than Romo was he’s going to be criticized as well without more team success unless he plays at a MVP level despite the team regardless how much we like or support him.

Dak looked like Dak last year until the Atlanta game happened.

The Denver game was bad too but the whole team was garbage that day.
 

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Watch the video on YouTube.

Not going to Post the link. We’ve all watched it by now.

Dak has issues.

Hopefully they cleaned up his tech problems and we are good.

If not, then we know why Mike White was drafted.
Don't even know who this guy Mike White is. He will most likely be on the practice squad or the #3 qb. Dak will have at least another year if not more to prove himself.
 

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Dak looked like Dak last year until the Atlanta game happened.

The Denver game was bad too but the whole team was garbage that day.
I’m just saying. Take winning out the equation and how much support is Dak going to have ?
 

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lol. Do not stop there. There are Romo ‘haters’ that never truly appreciated him, who initially loved Prescott and began ‘hating’ him during his second season.

Fans are fickle.

They are indeed. My thing is we gave Romo 8 years to win a SB. He tried. I'm sure the delirious will say he didn't because he didn't have great teams and you can't just blame the QB. Then turn around out of the other side of their mouth and blame Dak for 9-7. How delirious is that?
 

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Thanks for posting the article.

I'm ever suspicious of statistics (I always hated statistics courses).

Whatever the article's author concludes, or what all of us opine in this thread, one thing appears to be true - we may or may not think that the problem was with Dak, but the team's decision-makers certainly don't think so.

Look at the moves that they've made (this was pointed out in the article). They have almost completely overhauled their receiver corps through the draft and free agency. I don't think that they would have done that if they had believed that the current set of receivers was effective.

They also shored up the line (and even stated during a press conference that it was in response to the Atlanta game last year), both with starters (draft) and depth (free agency), especially the critical swing tackle position.

You could argue that they brought in a potential replacement for Dak also (Mike White), but I'm thinking that if they really thought that Dak were the problem, you would have seen a more desperate attempt to move up in the first to snag one of those 4-5 top names we kept hearing being thrown around (or bring in a bridge QB in free agency).

These moves indicate (to me, at least) that the coaching staff views the problems to stem from the line and the receivers. Regardless of what we think, we're going to find out pretty soon, whether they were right.
 

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your right.Win and your a God...all is forgiven. All it takes is 1 Lombardy. Unfortunately when your a QB...and especially the QB of Americas team..you take all the credit AND THE BLAME. Just how it goes.
It’s not just the Cowboys. In the NFL unless your leading the league in passing if your team isn’t having success your going to be criticized.

Much like with Romo , fans will need to toughen up their skin without more team success because the criticism of Dak not going away especially if in bottom tier of passing.
 

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Good article.....I've seen the other article that showed Dak was the most accurate passer in the NFL. The numbers don't lie.
 

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Thanks for posting the article.

I'm ever suspicious of statistics (I always hated statistics courses).

Whatever the article's author concludes, or what all of us opine in this thread, one thing appears to be true - we may or may not think that the problem was with Dak, but the team's decision-makers certainly don't think so.

Look at the moves that they've made (this was pointed out in the article). They have almost completely overhauled their receiver corps through the draft and free agency. I don't think that they would have done that if they had believed that the current set of receivers was effective.

They also shored up the line (and even stated during a press conference that it was in response to the Atlanta game last year), both with starters (draft) and depth (free agency), especially the critical swing tackle position.

You could argue that they brought in a potential replacement for Dak also (Mike White), but I'm thinking that if they really thought that Dak were the problem, you would have seen a more desperate attempt to move up in the first to snag one of those 4-5 top names we kept hearing being thrown around (or bring in a bridge QB in free agency).

These moves indicate (to me, at least) that the coaching staff views the problems to stem from the line and the receivers. Regardless of what we think, we're going to find out pretty soon, whether they were right.

In fairness they don’t really have a choice at this point other than to build around Dak.

The only other QB on the roster was Rush. And the draft capital to get into the Top 5 to grab a QB this would have been expensive.

So while I think they have confidence in Dak, they also don’t have a lot of choice in the matter either.
 

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So why the hate? Lack of team success inspires SOME of that, but we have a lot of savvy people here that know better. Could it simply be an extremely vocal minority? Negative drama IS a much bigger seller..
Right. There is a small vocal group that no matter what is presented they will deny it's legitimacy.
 
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