Dak second to only Rodgers in 100+ QBR/games played

[HungryLion]

For example just taking passing yards as a percent of total yards, New England is 9th in the league with 70% of its yards coming by air whereas Dallas was 31st in the league with 59%. I don't care how many games Prescott had an efficiently of 100+, he was asked to do much less than guys like Brady. So to suggest that Dak is on par or better then some of these guys based on this kind of analysis is not on solid footing.

P.S. Dallas was 30th in the league for passing yards as a percent of total yards in 2016 as well.

But you’re comparing Dak after 2 years, to the best QB to probably ever play the game.

Of course he isn’t as good as Tom Brady. But that doesn’t mean he can’t or shouldn’t be the cowboys QB of the future either.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

But you’re comparing Dak after 2 years, to the best QB to probably ever play the game.

Of course he isn’t as good as Tom Brady. But that doesn’t mean he can’t or shouldn’t be the cowboys QB of the future either.

Ya lets settle for average or below average cause its Dak you know...........I mean we're just America's Team.....!!!!

 

[pansophy]

But you’re comparing Dak after 2 years, to the best QB to probably ever play the game.

Of course he isn’t as good as Tom Brady. But that doesn’t mean he can’t or shouldn’t be the cowboys QB of the future either.

I didn't write the blog, and for the record I didn't say that Dak shouldn't be our QB. Romo had his best statistical year in the same run heavy offense that Dak is playing in. I got accused of being biased against Dak for making some pretty basic points, which apparently means saying anything to suggest that he isn't a top 5 QB right now.

In my opinion, 2017 was tougher because people realized that Dak couldn't attack the sidelines 10-20 yards downfield. So instead of protecting against the bigger plays they started to double Beasley and Witten inside and squeeze in on those WR 'IN' routes. When is the last time you have seen one of our WR's have to drag his feet on the sideline?? It rarely rarely happens and I see those plays all the time on other teams. It made things a lot tougher for the passing game and that's why everyone fell off at once.

So what I will looking out for in 2018 are those mid-range sideline throws, which take touch and accuracy. If Dak has added that to his game then I'll feel pretty good about our chances with him long term. Certainly he will be good enough to win a super bowl, just as Romo was. We don't need a HOF QB to win. If Dak can't make those throws though, I'd feel uncomfortable spending 20 million a year on him. He does bring a lot to the table in other ways and with Zeke and our offensive line it could be enough. But for me its a harder call to spend franchise money on a QB who can't make all the throws.

So from where I'm sitting the the blog post is click bait and a complete distortion of where Dak is as a QB right now.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I'm looking for Dak to make the next jump in his game, but I reserve the right to be skeptical.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Here's the problem.

Against Minnesota: 12-for-18, 139 yards, 1 TD, 108.3 rating

To an elite QB, that's known as a first half, not an entire game. Dak failed to break 200 yards passing eight times last year alone. That's just weird.

Here is the problem with that:

Dak Prescott has 3 games where he did not break 200 yards and put up over 100 rating.

Aaron Rodgers has 7 games where he did not break 200 yards and put up over 100 rating

 

[Denim Chicken]

Here is another one for the Dak haters:

Despite having 98 more attempts, Carson Wentz has only thrown for 87 more yards than DAK.

 

[G2]

Ya lets settle for average or below average cause its Dak you know...........I mean we're just America's Team.....!!!!

How you were endorsed over 700 times is beyond me.

 

[Denim Chicken]

Another pointless thread.

How can anyone compare what Prescott did in 2016 and 2017 to other quarterbacks?

How many other quarterbacks had the best offensive line in football in 2016...oh that would be none.

How many other quarterbacks had the best running game in football in 2016...oh that would be none.

Argument over.

In 2015 when we a Top Ten rushing attack & Top Ten Defense. Our O-line was one of the best in the league.

We won 4 games.

Prescott arrives and we win 13.

Argument over.

 

[pansophy]

Here is another one for the Dak haters:

Despite having 98 more attempts, Carson Wentz has only thrown for 87 more yards than DAK.

But it is the tale of two seasons:
2016 YPA
Dak: 7.99
Wentz: 6.23

2017 YPA
Dak: 6.78
Wentz: 7.49

 

[HungryLion]

Ya lets settle for average or below average cause its Dak you know...........I mean we're just America's Team.....!!!!

That’s not the point being Made at all Pappy.

Of course, your extremely poor reading comprehension has already been pointed out multiple times. So, I am not surprised you misunderstood the point being made and then proceeded to spew your useless nonsense again.

 

[gbrittain]

I do not get all the hate/hype in either direction. Rookie year was outstanding compared to his peers and last year was average compared to his peers.

I compared Dak to his peers that threw over 400 passes. Generally, if you throw under 400 passes you probably did not start most of the season. So I wanted to compare QBs who pretty much accounted for all their respective teams starts.

In 2016 there were 26 QBs that threw over 400 passes and only Tom Brady and Matt Ryan posted a better QB rating. No matter your surrounding cast, that is pretty good.

In 2017 25 QBs threw over 400 passes and Dak Prescott was tied for 13th best QB rating out of 25. That is pretty much dead center (average).

After this year, we will know which season was the aberration and perhaps then I can join the hype or hate squad.

 

[DiResta]

since this is a Dak thread
heres football outsiders adjusted interceptions from 2017
Dak threw 13 picks, 1 was a 'hail mary' and 3 were tipped by receiver into hands of defender
8 were potential interceptions that the defender dropped
so adjusted interceptions is 17

for comparison Wentz threw 7 picks and 6 were dropped with no tips so 13 adjusted

Rodgers threw 6

Roethlisberger threw 14 and had 4 more dropped

Brady threw 8 and had 5 dropped


for comparison in 2016 Dak threw 4 and had 3 dropped

 

[percyhoward]

Comparing Dak, in a run heavy offense, to Brady in a pass heavy offense by using passer rating really isn't comparing the two very effectively without trying to adjust those stats to account for these differences.

Good passer rating numbers don’t impress as many people in a run-dominated scheme.

There's no doubt it's easier to pass when you can make defenses play honest. It's also a whole lot easier when your own defense doesn't have you playing from behind so much.

 

[Sydla]

Here is another one for the Dak haters:

Despite having 98 more attempts, Carson Wentz has only thrown for 87 more yards than DAK.

In fairness, Wentz has played in 2.5 less games.

 

[Hennessy_King]

What I love about this thread is all the people second guessing the QBR for dak are the same people who say Romo should be in HOF discussions because of his great career QBR. Lol its hilarious.

 

[Sydla]

stats never tell the whole story. Dak did great for what he had to work with and literally in his second year.

I missed this comment earlier.

Are you giving Dak a pass for his subpar 2017 season?

 

[Sydla]

Which was just one fewer than Wentz had in 2017 and he was being touted as MVP and two more than Wentz had in 2016 when the talent around him was not as good. Funny how that excuse is okay for Wentz, but means Dak can't carry a team.

I am confused by this. Whose talent was not as good as what?

 

[HungryLion]

I am confused by this. Whose talent was not as good as what?

I think the poster means:

Wentz played poorly in 2016 when he didn’t have talent around him. Then in 2017 Wentz had a great supporting cast and played at an MVP level.

Dak was opposite. He played great in 2016 with the supporting cast. Then played poorly in 2017 once is supporting cast was injured.

 

[erod]

Here is the problem with that:

Dak Prescott has 3 games where he did not break 200 yards and put up over 100 rating.

Aaron Rodgers has 7 games where he did not break 200 yards and put up over 100 rating

Again, hence, the reason QB rating is a dumb stat.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

That’s not the point being Made at all Pappy.

Of course, your extremely poor reading comprehension has already been pointed out multiple times. So, I am not surprised you misunderstood the point being made and then proceeded to spew your useless nonsense again.

Stick and stones will break my bones.......but Dak will still throw dinkers as he's unable to do pretty much else....man....

P.S. Don't worry about my reading comprehension baby worry about Dak's reading the defense and not pulling a Dak Panic attack back there....