I have Dak ranked 3rd in 2018 NFC East QBs

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Just as it's amazing how you selectively forgot that even with THOSE 3 games, he STILL finished better than Wentz last year in accuracy, just as he did in 2016. LMAO!!! LMAO!!! LMAO!!!
Typical cowboy fan. Accuracy is the bar for a QB? LMAO!!! How about leading the league in 3rd down efficiency? Or how about leading the league in red zone efficiency? How about his ability to read defenses? How about pocket presence?
Carson had 33 TD passes Dak 22. (Dak also played three more games) Carson’s QB rating was 101.9 Daks was 86.6. It’s nit all bad news though Dak did complete more passes to the other team (13-7). Yay team!
Here’s the real deal Carson Wentz is so superior to Dak in the one area that separates good QBs from ok ones, what’s between his ears! And it’s not close and it’s not up for debate.
 

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Ok since you guys are so hung up on stats lets see how each teams current receivers faired last year..

Dallas
Hurns 484 yrds 2 td's
williams 568 yrds 0 td's
Beasley 314 yrds 4tds

Commanders
Richardson 703 yrds 6 td'd
Crowder 789 yrds 3 td'd
Doctson 502 yrds 6td's

Thats not even including Vernon Davis,Chris thompson,Or even Reed...So your claim is laughable
Its funny you are even doing this. Dallas being a RUN FIRST team and all and arent too far off of the numbers you posted. Kinda working against you friend.
 

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-Wentz didnt win squat
-Foles isn't even a starter and rode a situational coat tail
-eli is laughable right now
-smith is the true QB manager


Technically Dak is the best QB in the east hands down.

1.What exactly has Dak won?
2.Didn't Dak take over a team built for Tony Romo his rookie season? (not saying he didn't do well with it)
3.Eli is definatelty laughable now
4.Smith outperformed Dak in every major category last season and by a large amount, hard to see Dak as being better than him based on last season
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Going into this season and based on last season Dak is the 3rd best QB in the division. Watching football with blinders on is never a good thing
 

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Typical cowboy fan. Accuracy is the bar for a QB? LMAO!!! How about leading the league in 3rd down efficiency? Or how about leading the league in red zone efficiency? How about his ability to read defenses? How about pocket presence?
Carson had 33 TD passes Dak 22. (Dak also played three more games) Carson’s QB rating was 101.9 Daks was 86.6. It’s nit all bad news though Dak did complete more passes to the other team (13-7). Yay team!
Here’s the real deal Carson Wentz is so superior to Dak in the one area that separates good QBs from ok ones, what’s between his ears! And it’s not close and it’s not up for debate.

Typical Deadgles fan.
Then WHY DOES Dak get bashed for his so called lack of accuracy? LMAO!!!!

HOW ABOUT THIS, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...-pescott-aaron-rodgers-tom-brady-carson-wentz

Ranking NFL QBs by their 100+ passer rating games

....The table is pre-sorted by the total number of 100+ games. If you sort the table by “100+ games in % of total games started” you’ll see that Aaron Rodgers throws more 100+ rating games than anybody else, and by quite a margin: His rate of 55.6% is almost six points better than the next guy on the list, none other than the Cowboys' Dak Prescott. With 50%, Prescott has the second-highest percentage of 100+ rating games of all NFL QBs, ahead of guys like Russell Wilson (48%), Tom Brady (47%), Drew Brees (47%), and Philip Rivers (45%).

Entering 2018, Rodgers and Prescott are the only NFL QBs at or above the 50% mark. You may not like it, and you may point to all sorts of extenuating factors, but Dak Prescott has put up numbers in his short career that puts him in an elite category with only Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo.

So the next time you hear Luck or Wentz compared to Peyton Manning (the boat on Tannehill has definitely sailed), you'll know that a better comparison is Peyton's lesser brother Eli.
 
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Off topic.. Is there another division with 2 first overall and a second overall draft picks starting at QB?
 

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Dak's 2017 QB Rating vs Wentz 2016 QB Rating.

Dak - 86.6
Wentz - 79.3

Dak's 2016 QB Rating vs Wentz 2017 QB Rating.

Dak - 104.9
Wentz - 101.9

EAT THIS DEADGLES FANS.
 

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Then WHY DOES Dak get bashed for his so called lack of accuracy? LMAO!!!!

HOW ABOUT THIS, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...-pescott-aaron-rodgers-tom-brady-carson-wentz

Ranking NFL QBs by their 100+ passer rating games

....The table is pre-sorted by the total number of 100+ games. If you sort the table by “100+ games in % of total games started” you’ll see that Aaron Rodgers throws more 100+ rating games than anybody else, and by quite a margin: His rate of 55.6% is almost six points better than the next guy on the list, none other than the Cowboys' Dak Prescott. With 50%, Prescott has the second-highest percentage of 100+ rating games of all NFL QBs, ahead of guys like Russell Wilson (48%), Tom Brady (47%), Drew Brees (47%), and Philip Rivers (45%).

Entering 2018, Rodgers and Prescott are the only NFL QBs at or above the 50% mark. You may not like it, and you may point to all sorts of extenuating factors, but Dak Prescott has put up numbers in his short career that puts him in an elite category with only Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo.

So the next time you hear Luck or Wentz compared to Peyton Manning (the boat on Tannehill has definitely sailed), you'll know that a better comparison is Peyton's lesser brother Eli.

So here's the thing with Dak he had a good rookie season and a not so good 2nd season. After 2 seasons Dak may be 2nd with a 50% rate of games with a 100+ rating, however it is that high because in his 1st season he had 11/16 games with a 100+ rating, that nosedived in his 2nd season to just 5/16 games, so for 2 seasons i guess the number holds up but i am willing to bet he is nowhere near 50% after his 3rd season and he will drop way down that list and not be close to any of those guys who have played many many more seasons in the NFL than Dak
 

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So here's the thing with Dak he had a good rookie season and a not so good 2nd season. After 2 seasons Dak may be 2nd with a 50% rate of games with a 100+ rating, however it is that high because in his 1st season he had 11/16 games with a 100+ rating, that nosedived in his 2nd season to just 5/16 games, so for 2 seasons i guess the number holds up but i am willing to bet he is nowhere near 50% after his 3rd season and he will drop way down that list and not be close to any of those guys who have played many many more seasons in the NFL than Dak

And Wentz accuracy still won't be any better than Dak's.
 

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Dak's 2017 QB Rating vs Wentz 2016 QB Rating.

Dak - 86.6
Wentz - 79.3

Dak's 2016 QB Rating vs Wentz 2017 QB Rating.

Dak - 104.9
Wentz - 101.9

EAT THIS DEADGLES FANS.

So what are your really saying here? Cause what i get out of this is your saying Dak played as bad as Wentz did his 1st season in his 2nd season and Wentz played as good as Dak did in his 2nd season as Dak did in his 1st, or in other words Wentz got better his 2nd season and Dak got worse..???
 

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Typical Deadgles fan.
Then WHY DOES Dak get bashed for his so called lack of accuracy? LMAO!!!!

HOW ABOUT THIS, LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/201...-pescott-aaron-rodgers-tom-brady-carson-wentz

Ranking NFL QBs by their 100+ passer rating games

....The table is pre-sorted by the total number of 100+ games. If you sort the table by “100+ games in % of total games started” you’ll see that Aaron Rodgers throws more 100+ rating games than anybody else, and by quite a margin: His rate of 55.6% is almost six points better than the next guy on the list, none other than the Cowboys' Dak Prescott. With 50%, Prescott has the second-highest percentage of 100+ rating games of all NFL QBs, ahead of guys like Russell Wilson (48%), Tom Brady (47%), Drew Brees (47%), and Philip Rivers (45%).

Entering 2018, Rodgers and Prescott are the only NFL QBs at or above the 50% mark. You may not like it, and you may point to all sorts of extenuating factors, but Dak Prescott has put up numbers in his short career that puts him in an elite category with only Aaron Rodgers and Tony Romo.

So the next time you hear Luck or Wentz compared to Peyton Manning (the boat on Tannehill has definitely sailed), you'll know that a better comparison is Peyton's lesser brother Eli.
Consider the source! You quote btb as if it’s the Bible. Maybe you should read other sources. What you do is akin to being at a murder trail and taking the word of murderous felons mom as proof of her sons innocence in spite of the mountain of evidence against him. What are you 12. Stop using btb as proof to anything. It makes you look stupid.
 

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Consider the source! You quote btb as if it’s the Bible. Maybe you should read other sources. What you do is akin to being at a murder trail and taking the word of murderous felons mom as proof of her sons innocence in spite of the mountain of evidence against him. What are you 12. Stop using btb as proof to anything. It makes you look stupid.

The SOURCE is the stats Einstein. You saying the stats given are false? What are you, but your current age. Stop using your non ability of a so called mind as proof to anything. It makes you look.....well.....stupid is too kind a word.


Dak's 2017 QB Rating vs Wentz 2016 QB Rating.

Dak - 86.6
Wentz - 79.3

Dak's 2016 QB Rating vs Wentz 2017 QB Rating.

Dak - 104.9
Wentz - 101.9

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I'm sure on the Giants forum, they're probably looking at the last 3 years for Eli instead of last year.
... or they are comparing Eli's 2016 86.0 vs Dak's 2017 86.6 to show they are comparable.

Yet for players that had a great 2017 (and mediocre 2016), nobody looks at the past 2 years to project their 2018 performance.

Sounds a lot like how Jerry used to handle the roster. Sign contracts based on a player's best year, and address needs under the assumption that everyone on the roster is going to match their best year next year.
 

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So what are your really saying here? Cause what i get out of this is your saying Dak played as bad as Wentz did his 1st season in his 2nd season and Wentz played as good as Dak did in his 2nd season as Dak did in his 1st, or in other words Wentz got better his 2nd season and Dak got worse..???
I think its more like Dak hit his rookie wall a year later.
 

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I'm sure on the Giants forum, they're probably looking at the last 3 years for Eli instead of last year.
... or they are comparing Eli's 2016 86.0 vs Dak's 2017 86.6 to show they are comparable.

Yet for players that had a great 2017 (and mediocre 2016), nobody looks at the past 2 years to project their 2018 performance.

Sounds a lot like how Jerry used to handle the roster. Sign contracts based on a player's best year, and address needs under the assumption that everyone on the roster is going to match their best year next year.

I am showing that Dak isn't the only one who has underperformed in 2 seasons of play, nothing more. I have NEVER heard anyone say Wentz has problems. He is the next Rodgers, Brady, Brees, yada, yada, yada. Dak has to prove it in a deep playoff run, and same goes for Wentz they are on that level.
 

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The SOURCE is the stats Einstein. You saying the stats given are false? What are you, but your current age. Stop using your non ability of a so called mind as proof to anything. It makes you look.....well.....stupid is too kind a word.


Dak's 2017 QB Rating vs Wentz 2016 QB Rating.

Dak - 86.6
Wentz - 79.3

Dak's 2016 QB Rating vs Wentz 2017 QB Rating.

Dak - 104.9
Wentz - 101.9

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The stats aren't false they are just taken a little out of context. When Dak has played 3 or more seasons then see how he stacks up against those other guys for his career. After 2 seasons in the NFL Russell Wilson had 18 of 32 games with a passer rating of over 100 or 56%, For his career he is now at 48%. It's a BS stat when you look at it closer because Dak had an exceptional rooke season in which he had 11/16 games with a passer rating of over 100, he was nowhere close to that his 2nd season but his number holds up because of his great 1st season. This stat for Dak would be more palatble had his numbers for each season been closer to each other than at opposite ends of the scale. Lets see where he falls with this stat after his 3rd season
 

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1.What exactly has Dak won?
2.Didn't Dak take over a team built for Tony Romo his rookie season? (not saying he didn't do well with it)
3.Eli is definatelty laughable now
4.Smith outperformed Dak in every major category last season and by a large amount, hard to see Dak as being better than him based on last season
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Going into this season and based on last season Dak is the 3rd best QB in the division. Watching football with blinders on is never a good thing

It is a bad thing, which is why you should take them off. You now the Dak basher 2.0 supremes that sold out in less than 24hrs about a year ago?

What color are yours:huh:?
 

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It is a bad thing, which is why you should take them off. You now the Dak basher 2.0 supremes that sold out in less than 24hrs about a year ago?

What color are yours:huh:?

I am quite capable of being able to be a Cowboy fan and also being realistic about what i think Dak is as a QB, then again like i said watching football with blinders on is never a good thing. We will all know who Dak is after this season and i for one would be very happy if he proves me wrong, i just don't think he will
 
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