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[acr731]

I just don’t think he’s a great X’s and O’s coach and game manager but pretty much every other aspect of coaching he excels at.

Seriously? Like what? The only thing I have seen he can do well is cuss like a sailor. And even then he was probably only acting for the cameras and microphones. And he can spit as good as a camel.

 

[stilltheguru88]

People want to pick and choose when to like a list. No agendas though, right? (Grown) men

 

[Captain-Crash]

didn't look at the list but I wonder for the length of time he's been in the league he should be higher. How does the time he's been in the league compare to where he is on the list. Are guys ahead of him been in the league less or more years than him.
compare that. that should give you an idea of how he's doing.

 

[Big_D]

middle of the pack right outside the playoff picture. That's about right. That's Garrett's sweet spot.

 

[Diehardblues]

This is just a twisted view. You set the standard at “horrible” for Garrett and then when this ranking has him 15th you can sell it that fans are wrong about garrett.

This ranking would indicate Garrett just isn’t good enough. If people want to put any validity in this ranking, the takeaway is he’s an average coach, likely not good enough to win anything of significance.

The takeaway should not be, “Told you guys he wasn’t he worst!!”

So then any coach that hasn’t had anymore success is a horrid coach as well?

It’s important to establish he’s not as bad as some want to portray before arguing he’s any better.

Slightly above average could be enough with a more talented team. Just saying..

 

[dstew60105]

I heard this list debated this morning on the radio. According to this list Garrett’s a top half the league coach.

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000938541

Pete Carroll at 3 is a joke.

 

[Diehardblues]

middle of the pack right outside the playoff picture. That's about right. That's Garrett's sweet spot.

That’s a good enough spot for Jerry to sell hope and to continue his quest to prove he’s a Football Guy.

Jerry can sell heck out of 8-8 or 9-7 but not three straight 5-11 or 1-7.

 

[Diehardblues]

Pete Carroll at 3 is a joke.

He’s only there because of the great teams he had. Without a ring and 2 SB appearances he’d just be another average NFL coach like he was years ago .

He hit on a QB and built a great defense. The recipe for success.

 

[Diehardblues]

Consider that one of the great coaches in NFL history wasn’t able to have more success here. And one of the best DC at least in this era.

I don’t think most really expects any HC to have much success in a situation where you don’t have more control.

There’s one constant throughout this era which is hindering our franchise not only in coaching but acquiring talent. It’s a double whammy of sorts. It’s amazing we’re competitive at all but we have just enough talent to remain relative and sell hope.

 

[Sydla]

So then any coach that hasn’t had anymore success is a horrid coach as well?

It’s important to establish he’s not as bad as some want to portray before arguing he’s any better.

Slightly above average could be enough with a more talented team. Just saying..

It’s amazing you read my post and this is the conclusion you came up with.

Slightly above average isn’t good enough. Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.

 

[Sydla]

Consider that one of the great coaches in NFL history wasn’t able to have more success here. And one of the best DC at least in this era.

I don’t think most really expects any HC to have much success in a situation where you don’t have more control.

There’s one constant throughout this era which is hindering our franchise not only in coaching but acquiring talent. It’s a double whammy of sorts. It’s amazing we’re competitive at all but we have just enough talent to remain relative and sell hope.

Parcells was burnt out when we got him. Turning to suggest we got the Parcells from the 80s, 90s is a real stretch.

I’ll give you credit for the various ways you do come up with defenses for Garrett though. That bag seems bottomless.

 

[Diehardblues]

Parcells was burnt out when we got him. Turning to suggest we got the Parcells from the 80s, 90s is a real stretch.

I’ll give you credit for the various ways you do come up with defenses for Garrett though. That bag seems bottomless.

Interesting how those who want a real proven HC coach discount having a HOF HC with no more success .

Regardless whether your supportive of Garrett or not the dilemma for all of us is there a better solution with Jerry?

As I’ve maintained from the beginning if I truly felt there was a more realistic solution I’d be all in on firing Garrett. Firing Garrett without Jerry changing his ways doesn’t provide me much hope.

 

[Diehardblues]

It’s amazing you read my post and this is the conclusion you came up with.

Slightly above average isn’t good enough. Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.

We don’t know if it’s good enough without a more talented team was the point.

How do we know all the other HC rated below Garrett aren’t going to be better coaches with more talent and better teams?

 

[HungryLion]

Interesting how those who want a real proven HC coach discount having a HOF HC with no more success .

Regardless whether your supportive of Garrett or not the dilemma for all of us is there a better solution with Jerry?

As I’ve maintained from the beginning if I truly felt there was a more realistic solution I’d be all in on firing Garrett. Firing Garrett without Jerry changing his ways doesn’t provide me much hope.

Parcels went to the playoffs 2 out of 4 seasons with the cowboys. One of those seasons was with Quincy freaking Carter as his QB.

Jason Garrett lost Romo for a year and went 1-11 without him.

Parcells was far more successful with Garrett and he did it with less than Garrett has had.

Bringing up Parcells does nothing to defend Garrett.

 

[Diehardblues]

Parcels went to the playoffs 2 out of 4 seasons with the cowboys. One of those seasons was with Quincy freaking Carter as his QB.

Jason Garrett lost Romo for a year and went 1-11 without him.

Parcells was far more successful with Garrett and he did it with less than Garrett has had.

Bringing up Parcells does nothing to defend Garrett.

Remember Bill had a top defense which carried Quincy.

My intent was not to bash Parcells for I believe he’s the best HC we’ve had since Jimmy resurrecting us from the ashes of 5-11 Campo and Jerry funk. 2003 was no doubt one of the best coaching jobs in Cowboy history and illustrates the importance of great coaching.

My bigger point is when evaluating the overall success with Bill vs Garrett is very similar under Jerry which is the basis of my argument that regardless our coaching it’s going to be compromised with Jerry’s control and why the end results have been similar.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Of course, but we all know, some coaches are stupider(is that a word) than other coaches. Garrett makes way more lame mistakes, bad adjustments, or no adjustments, than the better coaches.

compared to some of the better coaches. absolutely. that's why they are BETTER coaches.

but to say he is the worst, and a peeve coach is better....its utter stupidity.

 

[dfense]

I’d buy hope over the hoplessness that is Jason Garrett.

We know what Garrett is.. He’s had a lifetime in coaching years as the Cowboys coach. He’s a jag at best.

Belichek was 41-55 his first six years as head coach. Then he got Tom Brady. Just saying.

 

[Diehardblues]

Belichek was 41-55 his first six years as head coach. Then he got Tom Brady. Just saying.

Yea.. and why I’m so concerned with Dak.

A slightly above average QB with a slightly above average HC isn’t a recipe for success especially with a slightly above average defense.

 

[Sydla]

Interesting how those who want a real proven HC coach discount having a HOF HC with no more success .

Regardless whether your supportive of Garrett or not the dilemma for all of us is there a better solution with Jerry?

As I’ve maintained from the beginning if I truly felt there was a more realistic solution I’d be all in on firing Garrett. Firing Garrett without Jerry changing his ways doesn’t provide me much hope.

First of all, the HOF HC we had in Parcells wasn't the same coach that took the Pats and Giants to the SB. He had been retired for four years and had to be begged to come back to coaching. And note, after Dallas, he didn't take another job in coaching again.

Secondly, if you want to play the Parcells card, then let's be totally honest here. He took over a Cowboys team is way worse shape than Garrett was given. And went to the playoffs twice in 4 years compared to Garrett's two appearances in 7, when he took over a much better situation.

Thirdly, yes, even with Jones, there's always a chance the next could be better. The point of continuing down the road with Garrett beyond 2018 if he keeps delivering disappointing seasons isn't based in rational thinking. It's just yet another lame defense mechanism that the pro-Garrett crowd has conjured up to defend a guy who has bad a pretty mediocre 7 year run. Your last sentence is funny. So you have hope with Garrett in charge?

 

[Sydla]

We don’t know if it’s good enough without a more talented team was the point.

How do we know all the other HC rated below Garrett aren’t going to be better coaches with more talent and better teams?

Well if you look at the names below him, some are retreads or guys with little to no track record. So no, it's probably unlikely guys with a track record will suddenly rocket up the listings. That's the problem with Garrett. He's got a pretty solid track record to date. Hence why most people outside of this franchise think he's an average coach in that 12-16 range.

Some others on the list are young guys, unproven guys, ranked low because they are simply unknowns. Garrett isn't an unknown. He's a known commodity.

But keep on ripping the talent on the team as a cover for the fact Garrett simply hasn't done a good enough job. It's downright bizarre that Jason Garrett is the hill some of you want to die on. You'll rip just about everything else around the franchise - owner, GM, talent - but Garrett? Nope. That's a guy who needs to be protected.

LOL.