Earl Thomas will be a Cowboy by Mid August- Book it

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OmerV said:
But Seattle is faced with the reality that Thomas can walk after the season and they wouldn't get one iota of compensation. The Rams don't have that concern, therefore they aren't forced to make a decision the way the Seahawks are.

If we are just talking about wishful thinking, there are a lot of player many of us would love to have, but we (and the Cowboys) have to be realistic about the fact that just because we like a player doesn't mean there is an opportunity to make a reasonable trade for him. Thomas is in the discussion because we know Seattle has been trading veterans to build for the future, and because Seattle has been open to the idea of trading Thomas. That's entirely different than what the Rams have indicated.
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There's nothing to force Seattle either, they're not giving him away, there's no market for Thomas other than Dallas.....if he walks after this year, they get a high compensatory pick...Dallas would be asinine to trade away a second round pick and pay a safety 13 million a year....This team need a dominant defensive linemen more than a overpriced safety
 
Jipper said:
Comp pick if they don't sign a matching fa
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That's with a restricted free agent. Hence the designation as "restricted". Unrestricted free agents are not subject to that restriction.
 
OmerV said:
Obviously a great deal, and I agree we can't attribute it all to Jimmy, but that was a hell of a long time ago. Jerry and the Cowboys haven't proven to be particularly productive with trades most of the years since.
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That is a tough task master, there...as the Cowboys Franchise has sought to achieve using the merits of their own process. They stuck to this, when transition was slow and cumbersome with the amount of work to overcome. Since the lock-out, the transition and progress has been steady...and good. That is integrity, when observed through a different perspective.
 
CCBoy said:
That is a tough task master, there...as the Cowboys Franchise has sought to achieve using the merits of their own process. They stuck to this, when transition was slow and cumbersome with the amount of work to overcome. Since the lock-out, the transition and progress has been steady...and good. That is integrity, when observed through a different perspective.
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I'm not sure how this is a response to my comment that the Cowboys haven't been particularly proficient with trades over the years.
 
OmerV said:
I'm not sure how this is a response to my comment that the Cowboys haven't been particularly proficient with trades over the years.
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Never mind...ethics and morales have little place in your comment.
 
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CCBoy said:
Never mind...ethics and morales have little place in your comment.
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What the hell are you talking about? This wasn't a discussion about ethics and morals, it was simply about whether Jerry has been good at making trades.
 
stasheroo said:
That guy got it wrong.

Compensatory picks are awarded to teams that lose significant ferry agents while not signing any of their own.

I'm shocked that a writer could get that so wrong at this point in time.

Our own @AdamJT13 can explain it far better than I can:

https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/
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Same text, but put out directly by the NFL

https://operations.nfl.com/updates/the-players/2016-nfl-free-agency-questions-and-answers/
 
stasheroo said:
Are you seriously completely unaware of the NFL's compensatory pick process?
:huh:
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With restricted free, agents, yes. Unrestricted free agents are under a different set of rules. I provided you exactly what the NFL says about the rules, which is that an unrestricted free agent can sign with any other club without their previous club being entitled to compensation. This isn't me, or a reporter saying this. It is put out by the NFL itself.
 
OmerV said:
With restricted free, agents, yes. Unrestricted free agents are under a different set of rules. I provided you exactly what the NFL says about the rules, which is that there is a period in which an unrestricted free agent can sign with any other club without their previous club being entitled to compensation. This isn't me, or a reporter saying this. It is put out by the NFL itself.
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And it refers to direct compensation between teams at that point in time, it does not refer to compensatory draft picks.

Is this really the first time you're hearing about them? Do you not know about that process at all?

If so, you should really read the link I posted above.
 
T-RO said:
There is no point. By the time the Hawks are a playoff threat again ET will be 32 or 33 years old.

And how do you overlook an elephant? They’ve already been shopping him for 5 months. Seahawk media knows it, their smart fans know it...and you can be sure the front office knows it...the Legion of Boom popped. They’ve got to fully reload. You do that by trading older players...esp. ones with stiff contract demands.
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While I would love to see ET here, the point you make about being a play-off team fits Dallas as well since we don't know how this rebuild of the passing game will work.
 
stasheroo said:
And it refers to direct compensation between teams at that point in time, it does not refer to compensatory draft picks.

Is this really the first time you're hearing about them? Do you not know about that process at all?

If so, you should really read the link I posted above.
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It actually does specifically say that an unrestricted free agent can sign with another club with no draft pikc compensation being owed. I copied and pasted the pertinent portion of it below ...

Q: What determines an unrestricted free agent?

A: A player with four or more accrued seasons whose contract has expired. He is free to sign with any club, with no draft choice compensation owed to his old club, through July 22 (or the first scheduled day of the first NFL training camp, whichever is later).
 
OmerV said:
It actually does specifically say that an unrestricted free agent can sign with another club with no draft pikc compensation being owed. I copied and pasted the pertinent portion of it below ...

Q: What determines an unrestricted free agent?

A: A player with four or more accrued seasons whose contract has expired. He is free to sign with any club, with no draft choice compensation owed to his old club, through July 22 (or the first scheduled day of the first NFL training camp, whichever is later).
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Read up on the compensatory pick process and then get back to me with your apology.

Did you know that the Cowboys had several compensatory draft picks just this year?

Do you have any idea how they got those compensatory draft picks?
 
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