Root of the Rico argument

it could be.
but many of us dont trust it because the one saying it is garrett.
and other coaches on the team, and despite all the rhetoric, he shiets more football knowledge than you have ever learned in your life...despite all the rhetoric he has a winning record....he hasn't won a superbowl which is what everybody expects.....so if he says rico needs work, I tend to believe him than a internet message board junkie like yourself or even me
 
I'm not sure what you mean by this, unless it's to say 1st round picks are the only one's we should expect to be mentally and emotionally tough enough to push through and become the best they can be after having a coach they didn't agree with. I won't comment further because maybe you meant something else that I'm not thinking of.
1st round picks would typically have the talent, attitude, makeup, health, clean record that we need. otherwise players lack one or more of these.
 
that argument does not hold water given his time keeping, being removed from offensive game planning and the defensive game management by marinelli/richard
you just described 30 other coaches in the NFL, who have DC and OC doing that under their supervision. but I assume you have insider knowledge as you speak like you had dinner with jerry a few times!
 
yea and which rock will u hide under if rico is cut and balls out somewhere else.
I am not like you. I won't hide. I will eat crow....which I haven't done much of since Rico is just the latest fan love fest with a player....it happens every year....for the past 20 years, so its not unique to garrett or rico....

but if he turns into pumpkin, will you come here and admit you were wrong? or will you hide under a rock?
 
you just described 30 other coaches in the NFL, who have DC and OC doing that under their supervision. but I assume you have insider knowledge as you speak like you had dinner with jerry a few times!
i believe it was reported that garrett was removed from offensive game planning. delegation is expected, but removal from those meetings is different.
timekeeping we have all seen for ourselves.
you should really google what the rams coach does for game management
 
well if u r 6'6", 280 lbs, run a 4.8
or if u run a 4.4 and at least 200lb.
before u do, let me buy an injury policy naming me with as beneficiary.
wait are you sure about these stats? I thought he was 6'8" and 290 and ran a 4.6...at least I think that's where the legend of Rico was growing......
 
if we had a competent coach, there would not be much argument if the head coach said a player is lacking

however, we have garrett, who many do not trust.
if we had a coach like belicheat, i suspect most will take the coach at his word about the worth of players.

unfortunately the best argument is garrett's self-preservation.
what if another team picks rico up and he balls out.

Just because some doubt Garrett's game-day decisions, doesn't mean they should doubt his talent evaluation skills. Since Garrett took over the head coaching job, the entire front office philosophy on player acquisition changed. And the drafts have been among the best in the NFL. You can convince me that Garrett fails when it comes to managing games during the week. You CANNOT convince me that he doesn't know what he's talking about when it come to players talent and development.

That some cannot separate the two issues is indicative of their inability to think critically, not Garrett's inability to draft and develop players. Garrett developed the Oline, and the offense into one of the top offenses in the NFL. People claim Jerry "took away his playcalling authority" in 2013, but in actuality, what Jerry said was he wanted Garrett to focus his talents on player selection on the defense. Within a year, Garrett had dumped Ware, Hatcher and Ratliff, and began rebuilding the defense. He was stuck with Claiborne and Carr from the Rob Ryan Fiasco, but in 2014, he changed the team back to the 4-3 defense, and began overhauling the Dline. Since that time, he's drafted 6 defensive ends and a defensive tackle, and brought in several other Defensive tackles. He's focused on bringing in the right personnel to rebuild the defense from 2014-2017, the same way he focused on overhauling the offense from 2011-2014. From all appearances in preseason, that focus may result in a top 5 defense in 2018, the same way his focus on offense resulted in a top 5 offense in 2014.

Now, he's having to shift back to offense because some of the key pieces (Bryant, Witten, Free, Leary) went past their sell-by date. Bryant was planned for. Witten was a draft-day surprise.

But claiming Garrett doesn't know what to do with Rico as a player just fails to convince me. His track record of player selection and development, in coordination with Will McClay has been near the very top of the NFL in terms of results. I blame Jerry for not giving Garrett full control of the team until 2014. Garrett has his flaws managing tactics on game day. But his overall strategy for the team has been sound, and he's had a far higher success rate in the draft than most other NFL coaches. And that's why, in my opinion, Jerry trusts him. Despite the hiccups of the 2015 season, and the 4-game stretch last year, the Cowboys have been much more consistently good under Garrett than not.

The Cowboys now have one of the youngest teams in the NFL. That didn't happen by accident. They aren't perfect, but they're going to be good this season, on both sides of the ball. Injuries and bad luck can happen to any team, and only one of 32 teams will raise the trophy next February. The Cowboys are one of the teams in the hunt. Because of, not in spite of, Jason Garrett. The reality is that while I believe Garrett is a great architect of team building, he may not be the game day strategist that can take the Cowboys all the way. If that proves to be true, and Jerry ultimately fires him, whomever replaces Garrett will inherit a very talented team - much like Wade Phillips inherited the work of Bill Parcells in 2007.
 
I am not like you. I won't hide. I will eat crow....which I haven't done much of since Rico is just the latest fan love fest with a player....it happens every year....for the past 20 years, so its not unique to garrett or rico....

but if he turns into pumpkin, will you come here and admit you were wrong? or will you hide under a rock?
of course i would eat crow if i am wrong.
i had been in favor of jaylon and gregory.
very lukewarm on taco having prefer the guy pitts drafted.
wanted to go to a 3-4 -> wrong there given tlaw's progress
thought dlaw was not going to make it > wrong here and hope to be continue to be wrong here
 
when young employees think they got the screw in their first job, they often become jaded and bad employees for their future employers
that's so far from the truth...that's just you making things up. if employees are that weak minded that one incident screws their entire career, then they weren't any good to begin with....you are just making excuses to support your conspiracy theories
 
i believe it was reported that garrett was removed from offensive game planning. delegation is expected, but removal from those meetings is different.
timekeeping we have all seen for ourselves.
you should really google what the rams coach does for game management
do you know how many coaches in the NFL make time management mistakes? do you really think its just garrett? seriously!?
 
of course i would eat crow if i am wrong.
i had been in favor of jaylon and gregory.
very lukewarm on taco having prefer the guy pitts drafted.
wanted to go to a 3-4 -> wrong there given tlaw's progress
thought dlaw was not going to make it > wrong here and hope to be continue to be wrong here
Well then you are used to being wrong>>>
 
rico has had three years. he is getting chances. after three years he should know the play book and according to marty, he should know the play book better!!
he needs snaps and did not get it.
he was put on ir last year and left on ir after he probably recovered.
on ir, he cannot practice with the team.
 
and other coaches on the team, and despite all the rhetoric, he shiets more football knowledge than you have ever learned in your life...despite all the rhetoric he has a winning record....he hasn't won a superbowl which is what everybody expects.....so if he says rico needs work, I tend to believe him than a internet message board junkie like yourself or even me

This is a fair point. Garrett may well be a bad coach (I would replace him if I could), but some act as if he is less capable than posters on the internet. The reality is even the worst NFL coach can evaluate NFL talent a hell of a lot better than any of us on this site.

That doesn't mean they don't make mistakes. Without question they do, and some more than others. But they also, without question, are much more capable of an accurate evaluation than we would be.

Hell, even if they weren't any more capable than fans here, they still have more information to judge from because they see them in practices as well as games, and have a lot of very experienced football people giving their take on players as well.
 
rico has had three years. he is getting chances. after three years he should know the play book and according to marty, he should know the play book better!!
If that's true he should have been cut already. How a staff can't coach a professional player the playbook is beyond me. I know many learning disabled students that learned the playbook because we taught them the playbook. Went above and beyond to make sure they succeeded and helped the team succeed. If he hasn't learned at this point I blame the staff as much as I blame him.
 
that's so far from the truth...that's just you making things up. if employees are that weak minded that one incident screws their entire career, then they weren't any good to begin with....you are just making excuses to support your conspiracy theories

seen it all the time.
that is why we hired fresh from colleges and dont get jaded damaged goods.
 
Just because some doubt Garrett's game-day decisions, doesn't mean they should doubt his talent evaluation skills. Since Garrett took over the head coaching job, the entire front office philosophy on player acquisition changed. And the drafts have been among the best in the NFL. You can convince me that Garrett fails when it comes to managing games during the week. You CANNOT convince me that he doesn't know what he's talking about when it come to players talent and development.

That some cannot separate the two issues is indicative of their inability to think critically, not Garrett's inability to draft and develop players. Garrett developed the Oline, and the offense into one of the top offenses in the NFL. People claim Jerry "took away his playcalling authority" in 2013, but in actuality, what Jerry said was he wanted Garrett to focus his talents on player selection on the defense. Within a year, Garrett had dumped Ware, Hatcher and Ratliff, and began rebuilding the defense. He was stuck with Claiborne and Carr from the Rob Ryan Fiasco, but in 2014, he changed the team back to the 4-3 defense, and began overhauling the Dline. Since that time, he's drafted 6 defensive ends and a defensive tackle, and brought in several other Defensive tackles. He's focused on bringing in the right personnel to rebuild the defense from 2014-2017, the same way he focused on overhauling the offense from 2011-2014. From all appearances in preseason, that focus may result in a top 5 defense in 2018, the same way his focus on offense resulted in a top 5 offense in 2014.

Now, he's having to shift back to offense because some of the key pieces (Bryant, Witten, Free, Leary) went past their sell-by date. Bryant was planned for. Witten was a draft-day surprise.

But claiming Garrett doesn't know what to do with Rico as a player just fails to convince me. His track record of player selection and development, in coordination with Will McClay has been near the very top of the NFL in terms of results. I blame Jerry for not giving Garrett full control of the team until 2014. Garrett has his flaws managing tactics on game day. But his overall strategy for the team has been sound, and he's had a far higher success rate in the draft than most other NFL coaches. And that's why, in my opinion, Jerry trusts him. Despite the hiccups of the 2015 season, and the 4-game stretch last year, the Cowboys have been much more consistently good under Garrett than not.

The Cowboys now have one of the youngest teams in the NFL. That didn't happen by accident. They aren't perfect, but they're going to be good this season, on both sides of the ball. Injuries and bad luck can happen to any team, and only one of 32 teams will raise the trophy next February. The Cowboys are one of the teams in the hunt. Because of, not in spite of, Jason Garrett. The reality is that while I believe Garrett is a great architect of team building, he may not be the game day strategist that can take the Cowboys all the way. If that proves to be true, and Jerry ultimately fires him, whomever replaces Garrett will inherit a very talented team - much like Wade Phillips inherited the work of Bill Parcells in 2007.
don't mess with them.....they just want to point fingers and blame someone...it makes it so much easier and less complicated
 
If that's true he should have been cut already. How a staff can't coach a professional player the playbook is beyond me. I know many learning disabled students that learned the playbook because we taught them the playbook. Went above and beyond to make sure they succeeded and helped the team succeed. If he hasn't learned at this point I blame the staff as much as I blame him.
so if rico doesn't learn the playbook its the coaches fault....not the player? there is no accountability on the player? so coaches need to baby sit each player...you don't think they have watched film, explained things to him and walked him through and showed him...the question is did he retain it!!! by your account coaches are responsible to turn any athlete to a football player...regardless...that's essentially what you said....
 

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