If Dak can't throw, how do you explain 2016?

[Aviano90]

*QB

Lol. I agreed. Weeden, Cassel and Moore sucked. No arguments from me. Even Dak isn’t good.

 

[Number1]

"mmmmmdonuts"

that's pretty descriptive of the comment I replied to

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

“If Dak can’t throw how do you explain 2016,” is the cheap philosophical cousin of “well, if he’s so good why is he available.”

Thanks Mickey.

 

[DallasCowboysRule!]

If dak can't throw, how do you explain 2016?

If zeke was a crutch for dak in 2016, how do you explain week 1?

Even in 2016 Dak’s accuracy was sub par. He made plays but he wasn’t especially good at throwing the ball.

 

[Number1]

Better than 4.6 yards per carry and a TD isn't too shabby. Stacked box or not. The QB failed to make them pay. You can't blame Zeke for only getting 15 carries, so I don't see why he has to make any excuses.

The run was horrible early and that was the biggest reason for the imbalance - the staff is serious about trying to work a 50/50 mix

in modern football that requires a big plays, run and pass - they didn't produce enough positive plays

 

[Johnny23]

The 4.6 average is deceiving. Zeke had two carries longer than 4 yards - one for 7, another for 14. He averaged 3.5 on the other 14 carries.

Coupled with being 2/12 on 3rd/4th down that made for a lot of short possessions.

That's typical of great running backs. Their big runs seperate them from zeke and the theo riddicks of the world. It isn't deceiving it's par for the course.

 

[dfense]

If dak can't throw, how do you explain 2016?

If zeke was a crutch for dak in 2016, how do you explain week 1?

That's not hard at all. 1st down, Zeke for 6 or 7. 2nd down, Zeke for 6 or 7. Defense brings safeties up because they cannot stop Zeke. Dak has easy one man reads.

 

[jnday]

They tried to package to trade up in the first fit Lynch after getting Zeke, but nobody was budging. Again, their expectation was Romo had about 3 or 4 years left and they needed to start the process. So since they couldn’t package to trade up to ge him, Jerry and the FO were fine with going after a developmental guy such as Cook and Dak to learn under Romo.. the Raiders jumped up before then and grabbed Cook even though he was higher on the board.

It was well known that Garrett loved Wentz and the Cowboys should have traded up to get him. It wouldn't have cost nearly as much to move up a few spots.

 

[Cap12]

It was well known that Garrett loved Wentz and the Cowboys should have traded up to get him. It wouldn't have cost nearly as much to move up a few spots.

That's not true. Did you see what the Eagles had to part with to get Wentz? Yes, they were trading from further back, but The draft value chart difference between two and four is substantial (800 points = a mid-late first rounder in value + plus our pick at #4). Even if we do this, there is no gaurantee that a team that wanted Wntz would move to number 1.

So, the only way to gaurantee getting Wentz was to trade up to the Titans pick at pick #1 (which eventually was trade to the Rams, but then again, the Eagles might have made a move to one if they wanted Wentz as badly as we did). The difference in value of Pick 1 (3000 points) versus our Pick 4 (1800 points) the difference was worth more than our entire draft. So likely we would have to have traded at least a 3rd and a 2017 1st rounder for a player who might not have even started for another two years. We would have still needed a RB. To me, the cost would have been too steep (epsecially considering Wentz got hurt last season).

2016 showed that the team was built to win for that season. Dak played terrific in relief, but we couldn't get the job done.

 

[HungryLion]

It was well known that Garrett loved Wentz and the Cowboys should have traded up to get him. It wouldn't have cost nearly as much to move up a few spots.

These are the things that happen when the front office sucks. Unfortunately.

I was in favor of drafting Wentz to be Romo’s heir before the eagles traded up to get him.

Unfortunately the front office believed they were a couple players away from a super bowl. And they have never, ever been good at planning for the future at QB.

Let’s face facts. They lucked out with Romo. If it wasn’t for that luck. How long would the QB carousel have lasted with the likes of Hutchinson, Leaf, Quincy, etc.

 

[blueblood70]

That's not hard at all. 1st down, Zeke for 6 or 7. 2nd down, Zeke for 6 or 7. Defense brings safeties up because they cannot stop Zeke. Dak has easy one man reads.

thats the point Carolina game all 1 on 1s and many wr and te were very open..he missed them all,..big plays were there to be had and he just isn't letting it fly and he regressed from even the good 2016 he had..that is the answer.. he no longer even seeing the field and I believe the main reason he was better in 16 is he has Romo and Sanchez in his ear between series telling him what hes missing..im not sure this coaching staff is helping him at all..

 

[NotForLong]

No, Im a Romo supporter as well. Romo was physically spent. Maybe could have pushed another year out of him. But with the Oline problems he would have gotten hurt bad. But I guess we will never know because he quit.

Again I ask where are you getting your information from. How can you say he was physically spent, as if it was a fact
Its just not true. Its something you told yourself to justify starting the rookie over the veteran.

Quit? He was treated like **** and disrespected in 2016. Then they jerked him around in 2017 by not releasing him as they promised. Thats when cbs swooped in.

He wasnt spent and he didnt quit.
The Cowboys organization and the Cowboys nation abandoned him

 

[CowboyRoy]

Again I ask where are you getting your information from. How can you say he was physically spent, as if it was a fact
Its just not true. Its something you told yourself to justify starting the rookie over the veteran.

Quit? He was treated like **** and disrespected in 2016. Then they jerked him around in 2017 by not releasing him as they promised. Thats when cbs swooped in.

He wasnt spent and he didnt quit.
The Cowboys organization and the Cowboys nation abandoned him

Ok well he quit. That is a fact. Retiring is quitting. Which is also self admitting that he was spent. But then you can just reference the several broken back problems he had.

He was 100% spent and he 100% quit. Facts are stubborn things.

FYI...……...there are 31 other teams in the NFL. He could played for another team. But he was spent, so he quit.

 

[Cap12]

Ok well he quit. That is a fact. Retiring is quitting. Which is also self admitting that he was spent. But then you can just reference the several broken back problems he had.

He was 100% spent and he 100% quit. Facts are stubborn things.

FYI...……...there are 31 other teams in the NFL. He could played for another team. But he was spent, so he quit.

I'm convinced that he quit because of the CBS job more than his last injury. Getting one of the two top color commentaty jobs in broadcasting made Romo decide to retire. These jobs come along every 15-20 years and Romo had to think of what was best for him and his family. Without the job offer, recovering from the injury proved that Romo would have been willing to reclaim his starting spot in 2017 (and doubt that Dak could have won the job from him), but I give him credit for taking the job at CBS.

 

[Cowboysfandarin]

Ok well he quit. That is a fact. Retiring is quitting. Which is also self admitting that he was spent. But then you can just reference the several broken back problems he had.

He was 100% spent and he 100% quit. Facts are stubborn things.

FYI...……...there are 31 other teams in the NFL. He could played for another team. But he was spent, so he quit.

Not so fast. Do you remember the reports from those in the know, those who have sideline passes to practices, etc, other players reporting as well. They all said Romo was literally on fire during practices and was slinging the ball around like they had never seen him before. He was hungry to get back out there. He begged the front office one last time, telling them he was more ready than ever and he was. They smacked him upside the head with pure rejection and now they are paying for it. Not saying Romo could not have been injured again, but to say he was "spent" I know is not accurate. Look what he did coming off the bench for the one single last drive in Philly. He threw three passes you'll never once see Dak throw! In one drive after over a year off! Cowboys messed up and they know it.

 

[DFWJC]

I'm convinced that he quit because of the CBS job more than his last injury. Getting one of the two top color commentaty jobs in broadcasting made Romo decide to retire. These jobs come along every 15-20 years and Romo had to think of what was best for him and his family. Without the job offer, recovering from the injury proved that Romo would have been willing to reclaim his starting spot in 2017 (and doubt that Dak could have won the job from him), but I give him credit for taking the job at CBS.

This.

Here were his priorities
1) Get a fair chance to compete to start on the Cowboys in 2017
2) same
3) same
4) interchangeable between
..a) Compete to start in Denver or maye Houston
..b) Land a once in a 2 decade opportunity in the networks (so plenty of family time still)
5) retire and chill out for a year
6) take a mid range job in the networks

that's it.
The following were not really considered
playing for non contender
playing for Dallas but not being able to compete fair and square
taking a beginner level (travel heavy, low paying) network job


The guy gave his heart, soul and body parts to the Dallas Cowboys and the NFL
If he wasn't gonna be able to fairly compete on the team he loved, he really was fine with hanging it up...especially given the amazing network job offer.
He left taking the high road, so past time to move on.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Ok well he quit. That is a fact. Retiring is quitting. Which is also self admitting that he was spent. But then you can just reference the several broken back problems he had.

He was 100% spent and he 100% quit. Facts are stubborn things.

FYI...……...there are 31 other teams in the NFL. He could played for another team. But he was spent, so he quit.

 

[Aviano90]

Romo's 1st priority was to not get hurt again. Romo was Rice Krispies from shoulder to waist...snap, crackle and pop.

 

[Cap12]

This.

Here were his priorities
1) Get a fair chance to compete to start on the Cowboys in 2017
2) same
3) same
4) interchangeable between
..a) Compete to start in Denver or maye Houston
..b) Land a once in a 2 decade opportunity in the networks (so plenty of family time still)
5) retire and chill out for a year
6) take a mid range job in the networks

that's it.
The following were not really considered
playing for non contender
playing for Dallas but not being able to compete fair and square
taking a beginner level (travel heavy, low paying) network job


The guy gave his heart, soul and body parts to the Dallas Cowboys and the NFL
If he wasn't gonna be able to fairly compete on the team he loved, he really was fine with hanging it up...especially given the amazing network job offer.
He left taking the high road, so past time to move on.

Got to disagree here. If Dak had pulled a Nick Foles and won the Super Bowl, I might agree, but if Romo comes back in 2017, he could have competed and won his job back. There were a number of people rooting against that (Garrett, Stephen etc.), but I think Jerry would have put his foot down and told Stephen where to go. I don't doubt for a minute that Romo would have won the job from Dak if he wanted to compete for it.

To be honest, I don't think he felt like he should have had to compete for it and in my mind, he was right. If it were a "mid level" TV job, Tony would have either been starting for Dallas, Denver, Houston or another contender, depending on how tough the contingent to get him out, worked to get Jerry to let him go. Jerry has a serious blindspot when it came to Tony and without the CBS job, I don't see Jerry allowing Tony to play elsewhere without a huge fight. The CBS job was the rarest pearl and too good to walk away from.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm convinced that he quit because of the CBS job more than his last injury. Getting one of the two top color commentaty jobs in broadcasting made Romo decide to retire. These jobs come along every 15-20 years and Romo had to think of what was best for him and his family. Without the job offer, recovering from the injury proved that Romo would have been willing to reclaim his starting spot in 2017 (and doubt that Dak could have won the job from him), but I give him credit for taking the job at CBS.

writing was on the wall. His body was breaking down and one more bad hit to the back and he could be toast. They made it clear Dak was the starter, he had a great job offer.

But he did choose to quit for all of those reasons. Not sure about offers to play for other teams, but I would bet there was a few.