Twitter: For fans concerned about Dak passing under 200 yards

HellCrowe

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Under 200 yards at 6.2 to 7.0 YPA and 0 interceptions gives you a 94-8 record (.922 winning percentage) since 2005. Against winning teams, it's 38-4 (.905). Against teams that made the playoffs, it's 32-2 (.941).

Passing efficiency (offense and defense) wins games, not total passing yards.

I’m just taking this post from my earlier post but where are all these stats coming from? Link? Or make believe scenarios?

My original post -
So easy to grab stats. Let’s see, 2018 - 2005 = 13 * 16 = 208

Lol if my math is right, each team has played 208 games since 2005. We’re talking about 27 games. As we know, stats can paint lies. Consider a shoot out, a strong defense, a weak defense, schemes, etc.

Like I’ve posted, I’m all about running this offense for as long as Dak is QB but then it becomes more about Dak’s sustainability.

Here’s another stat for you. 208 * 32 = 6656
 

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Personally I don't put any set number on passing yards. I do put an emphasis on the offense moving the ball and putting points up. This past game 1st 2 drives Cowboys marched down field and put up points. However they went stagnate until the 4th qrt. which was disappointing to see. Yes I think Dak needs to do a better job with some of this throws but I will also say I was happy with him getting rid of the ball as opposed to forcing a throw when he was under pressure, avoiding the sack or throwing it up for grabs in those situation will get you beat. Troy Aikman for his career never avg more than 229 yards a game in passing stats and finished his career with 199 per game avg in passing yards. Before some one claims I am comparing Aikman to Dak you can hold your breath, not comparing the 2 only stating that moving the chains and putting up points is more important than overall passing yards. This offense similar to the 90's is built on a running game and being able to maintain good down and distant situations to keep defense off balance. Dak does need to do a better job in the passing game but I don't care if he throws for 400 yards or 200 yards as long as this offense is moving the ball down the field and putting points on the board
 

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So as long as he as the ability to throw the ball for 300, it is alright for him to throw for less than 200 yards in a season ending loss. It's just not alright for Dak to do it in a regular season win. Clear as mud to me. :lmao:

Yep, I just don't want to give 25,000,000 a year to a qb that can't throw for 300 yards if we needed him to, the defense won't always play lights out. There's a great quote about Walt Garrison (I think), "If you needed 3 yards just give the ball to Walt and he'll getcha 3, if you needed 9 yards just give it to Walt and he'll getcha 3". For Dak it's like "If you need 160 yards passing he'll getcha 160, if you need 300 yards he'll getcha 160".
 

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Through First 34 Games:
*Including Playoffs
*Min. 10 Attempts
**Carson Wentz has played 29/34 games
**Jared Goff has played 25/34 games

Games With Under 200 Passing Yards:
Matthew Stafford - 5
Cam Newton - 7
Andrew Luck - 8
Carson Wentz - 8
Jared Goff - 8
Aaron Rodgers - 9
Kirk Cousins - 9
Dak Prescott - 13
Matt Ryan - 13
Andy Dalton - 14
Tom Brady - 15
Derek Carr - 15
Russell Wilson - 16
Phillip Rivers - 17
Eli Manning - 17
Drew Brees - 18
Ben Roethlisberger - 20
Alex Smith - 26

Games With 0 Passing TDs:
Russell Wilson - 4
Matthew Stafford - 4
Aaron Rodgers - 5
Carson Wentz - 5
Derek Carr - 6
Jared Goff - 6
Cam Newton - 7
Matt Ryan - 7
Andy Dalton - 7
Eli Manning - 7
Ben Roethlisberger - 8
Andrew Luck - 8
Dak Prescott - 10
Phillip Rivers - 10
Tom Brady - 11
Drew Brees - 11
Alex Smith - 17

Games With 1+ INT:
Dak Prescott - 10
Jared Goff - 11
Aaron Rodgers - 14
Russell Wilson - 16
Carson Wentz - 16
Tom Brady - 17
Cam Newton - 17
Derek Carr - 17
Matt Ryan - 18
Ben Roethlisberger - 19
Phillip Rivers - 19
Andrew Luck - 19
Kirk Cousins - 19
Matthew Stafford - 20
Andy Dalton - 20
Drew Brees - 21
Alex Smith - 22
Eli Manning - 25

Games With 100+ Passer Rating:
Aaron Rodgers - 18
Russell Wilson - 18
Dak Prescott - 16
Kirk Cousins - 15
Phillip Rivers - 13
Cam Newton - 12
Matthew Stafford - 12
Matt Ryan - 11
Andy Dalton - 10
Tom Brady - 9
Carson Wentz - 9
Derek Carr - 8
Jared Goff - 8
Eli Manning - 7
Drew Brees - 6
Andrew Luck - 6
Alex Smith - 5
Ummm, anti-Dak crowd;
What’s wrong with these numbers? How do they mislead?
 

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Personally I don't put any set number on passing yards. I do put an emphasis on the offense moving the ball and putting points up. This past game 1st 2 drives Cowboys marched down field and put up points. However they went stagnate until the 4th qrt. which was disappointing to see. Yes I think Dak needs to do a better job with some of this throws but I will also say I was happy with him getting rid of the ball as opposed to forcing a throw when he was under pressure, avoiding the sack or throwing it up for grabs in those situation will get you beat. Troy Aikman for his career never avg more than 229 yards a game in passing stats and finished his career with 199 per game avg in passing yards. Before some one claims I am comparing Aikman to Dak you can hold your breath, not comparing the 2 only stating that moving the chains and putting up points is more important than overall passing yards. This offense similar to the 90's is built on a running game and being able to maintain good down and distant situations to keep defense off balance. Dak does need to do a better job in the passing game but I don't care if he throws for 400 yards or 200 yards as long as this offense is moving the ball down the field and putting points on the board
Same here. The offense averaged 2.5 points per possession. I think we averaged 2.53 and 2.62 in 2016 and 2014, our 2 best offenses in Garrett's head coaching era. I'm not going to complain about not having 200 yards passing, just like I'm not going to complain about Zeke not having 100 yards rushing. The offense was efficient. They need to clean some things up like the penalties and Dak needs to hit a wide open Rico, but it was a solid game.
 

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Winning is all that matters. If he can 150 yards per game pass us to a super bowl, then why would anyone care?
 

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Winning is all that matters. If he can 150 yards per game pass us to a super bowl, then why would anyone care?

No one would care. If we won the SB this year and Dak averaged 150 yards passing, no one would care.

The question is how likely is it can you win a SB where your QB averages 150 yards passing?

FWIW, I tend to agree that passing efficiency is more important than total yards, but there is some correlation IMO between yards and success. Like if your starting NFL QB averages 90 yards passing a game (exaggeration for effect), I am willing to bet they won't win a ton of games.
 

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Same here. The offense averaged 2.5 points per possession. I think we averaged 2.53 and 2.62 in 2016 and 2014, our 2 best offenses in Garrett's head coaching era. I'm not going to complain about not having 200 yards passing, just like I'm not going to complain about Zeke not having 100 yards rushing. The offense was efficient. They need to clean some things up like the penalties and Dak needs to hit a wide open Rico, but it was a solid game.

I agree just hate seeing the offensive unit stalling out as they did in the 2nd qrt of much of the 3rd. Really hated seeing us settle for 3 after the Eli fumble which set us up deep in Giants territory and of course the missed opportunity to Rico and these are things this team will need to continue to work on and improve on. But as I said I don't put much on yards passing as I do overall offensive moving the ball down field be it pass or run and of course capitalizing when in the redzone.
 

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No one would care. If we won the SB this year and Dak averaged 150 yards passing, no one would care.

The question is how likely is it can you win a SB where your QB averages 150 yards passing?

FWIW, I tend to agree that passing efficiency is more important than total yards, but there is some correlation IMO between yards and success. Like if your starting NFL QB averages 90 yards passing a game (exaggeration for effect), I am willing to bet they won't win a ton of games.
Yepper
 

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That’s life as the QB of the Dallas Cowboys.
The level of criticism directed at every quarterback who has played for the franchise has varied. In short, some have endured much more of the illogical variety in relation to that experienced by their peers.
 

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The original post only refutes Daks sustainability and how very little, 200 yards and 0 interceptions leading to wins happen
 

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Winning is all that matters. If he can 150 yards per game pass us to a super bowl, then why would anyone care?
we care because none of us think being a bus driver warrants 25 million+ a year. Don't want to cripple the team that he's going to need since it's clear what he can and can't do right now.
 

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I posted this Sunday night after the game...Since 2016, teams are 25-6 when the QB has a passer rating between 94 and 96. Dak's was 95.4 in the game. Of those QB, the ones with less than 200 yards are 8-1. The ones with no sacks are 7-0.
The obvious problem that Dak truthers are ignoring is that this is Dak's second game with a 94 passer rating or higher since November of 2017.

Nobody complained about Dak's low passing totals his rookie season because he was efficient. He hasn't been an efficient high or low volume passer in almost a year.

Why is this thread 20 pages.
 

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I think it’s crystal clear to most everyone except possibly those slobbering over Dak.
You keep saying slobbering over Dak, but I think that's really all in your head. It's like you are trying to be annoying.
 
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