Twitter: Baldinger: Receivers are running straight to defenders

[Roadtrip635]

That is one interpretation of whatever stat you are suggesting proves this. Since you didn't cite said stat.

Aikman was a more accurate thrower than Romo. That was Aikman's strength. Romo was more like Danny White flinging it deep and all over the place. It is why Romo has more yards than Aikman by alot. Romo did force more throws into tight coverage than Aikman did. Romo was dang good at throwing picks to cost us games.

Aikman was more accurate. The reason he doesn't have more yards is simple because he didn't have to throw it as often as Romo did. Under similar circumstances, Aikman's passing yards would be right up there with Tony's. Aikman could have slung as much and as good as any of the other QBs, if he didn't happen to have the future NFL rushing leader on the team.

 

[aikemirv]

Aikman was more accurate. The reason he doesn't have more yards is simple because he didn't have to throw it as often as Romo did. Under similar circumstances, Aikman's passing yards would be right up there with Tony's. Aikman could have slung as much and as good as any of the other QBs, if he didn't happen to have the future NFL rushing leader on the team.

It just is not true - he was not more accurate - 65% to 61% is not even close enough to argue. Aikman had a better running game and better oline protection for the majority of his career and his stats are not close. The game was a bit different but not enough to bring about a 4% difference

 

[Roadtrip635]

That’s different than ‘limited’. He’s had some crazy good games even on bad teams. I agree that watching from afar he seems to run hot/cold.

The great year he had with the Jets is another example of Fitz being Fitz. Fitz was having a great year, he had a still prime Marshall and pre-injury Eric Decker, comes down to the last game of the season against the Bills. Classic win and you're in scenario. Jets looked playoff bound. Fitz threw 3 INTs that game. The following season he was bad, more INTs than TDs until he was finally benched. Like I said Jeykll and Hyde.

I think this year just caught people by surprise and Fitz is an older vet with the mentality, people don't expect much, nearing the end of my career, I'm just going to go out and fling it around and have fun. I think he said near exactly those words. He is a character tho, that Connor McGregor outfit a couple weeks ago was classic.

 

[aikemirv]

Uh, oh. Now you went and done it. You just had to go and poke the Romo wasp nest.

That's what happens when you try to give more weight to perception rather than actual facts!

 

[817Gill]

I can't believe these are the route patterns. No crossers, no lateral movement, no levels, no deception. Dak has been extremely scared recently and I haven't really seen him play confidently since pre-Atlanta last year when he was slinging it weeks 3-7 in 2017. BUT, Linehan makes it hard for him to regain any of that confidence and rhythm. If he plays out the season he's gonna kill any chance Dak has at resurrecting his career.

Smart coaches would scheme simple confidence growing plays that can get the QB back into his game. Linehan found it in the read-option but decided it was too logical to continue using it. He also won't run Zeke over 20 times in a game but that's for a different thread

 

[DOUBLE WING]

I can't believe these are the route patterns. No crossers, no lateral movement, no levels, no deception. Dak has been extremely scared recently and I haven't really seen him play confidently since pre-Atlanta last year when he was slinging it weeks 3-7 in 2017. BUT, Linehan makes it hard for him to regain any of that confidence and rhythm. If he plays out the season he's gonna kill any chance Dak has at resurrecting his career.

Smart coaches would scheme simple confidence growing plays that can get the QB back into his game. Linehan found it in the read-option but decided it was too logical to continue using it. He also won't run Zeke over 20 times in a game but that's for a different thread

Garrett's philosophy has always been based on the ridiculously antiquated idea of "beat the man in front of you and out-execute."

Maybe it works when you've got Dez Bryant and Jason Witten out there, but not with these scrubs.

It's 2018 and guys like Doug Pedersen and Sean McVay are scheming up all sort of crazy game plans to outsmart their opponents, and we're throwing out the crap you see in Baldinger's videos. It's embarrassing.

 

[JustChip]

That's the thing with this offense, it's always something. Dak misses a throw, Dak makes the throw, guy drops it, Dak misses a read, Dak makes the read but pass rush is on top of him, Dak makes the throw WR catches it, penalty. That was on Sunday alone, not even counting all the mistakes not on Dak. Stepping out of bounds, twice, Gregory foolishness, holding on big punt return. Dak hasn't been good and he certainly hasn't been good enough to overcome the amount of team induced errors like that.

Excellent analysis. It seems they've been under a bad sign. There is no one thing that, if changed, would make it all sunshine and lollypops. You just have to address each individually and hopefully results improve.

But the first thing that has to get right is Dak. He's not playing well at all and, IMO, it isn't because defenses simply figured him out. He threw deep in 2016 and last year so it's not he can't. He's also changed plays and adjusted protections in the past so it's not that he can't do that. He is just out of sorts and looks to be playing with zero confidence. I don't know what has to be done to change that, maybe it can't be at this point. I thought the tribulations he went through for the last half of last year would've been a very good learning experience and he would be better this year from it, but that doesn't seem to be.

 

[jterrell]

Enlighten me? In what way was Romo doing the same thing as Dak?

I don't recall Romo ever going an entire game with the longest attempted pass was 13 yards. Romo in fact usually led the league or close to it in avg yards per attempt. Somewhere around 8-9.

romo spinned out of trouble and then pointed a WR he had worked with for years to a spot and they would complete it for big yardage.

romo could trust dez and witten to win physical match ups and protect the ball.

that's the issue.
we no longer have any freelance element to this offense at all because the vanilla design is to hit things on timing and defenses have more experience defending this crap than our offensive players generally do running it.

 

[blueblood70]

"They're hard to watch, man. Really hard to watch."

but but butt..I thought Lal fixed all that )

 

[Keithfansince5]

Aikman 61.5% completion percentage - Romo 65.3%
Aikman 141 ints on 4715 attempts in 165 games - Romo 117 Ints on 4335 attempts in 156 games

Romo throwing picks to cost us games - that is a fallacy when compared to other top QB's - you just saw them because you watch Cowboys every week and that narrative was played up on the networks. Romo 24 4th QC and 29 GWD compared to Aikmans 15 and 20

If I could choose between Aikman or Romo as QB. I choose Aikman.

romo spinned out of trouble and then pointed a WR he had worked with for years to a spot and they would complete it for big yardage.

romo could trust dez and witten to win physical match ups and protect the ball.

that's the issue.
we no longer have any freelance element to this offense at all because the vanilla design is to hit things on timing and defenses have more experience defending this crap than our offensive players generally do running it.

Still didn't answer the question. How did Romo do what Dak is doing now? You claimed this so I want to know what Romo did that Dak is doing? I don't see Dak doing anything Romo did honestly.

 

[Mind_Liberator]

Is no one going to mention just how open some of these routes were?? lol If Dak slides to his left, like he should, and hits Beasley coming out of his break, this is a first down. Both comebacks outside were wide open as well. I mean, wth? Even Gallup beat his guy on a double move!

This is a trash take tbh. Hard to watch? Hard to watch Dak play NFL football..

 

[Roadtrip635]

It just is not true - he was not more accurate - 65% to 61% is not even close enough to argue. Aikman had a better running game and better oline protection for the majority of his career and his stats are not close. The game was a bit different but not enough to bring about a 4% difference

There have been several rule changes that have affected that over the years, QB protection, rules about defending WRs etc. As an example Tyrod Taylor has a career completion of 61.5% and I don't think you will find anyone, not even Tyrod's mother that would say he is as accurate as Aikman. QB stats as whole have continued to rise. INT rates continue to drop, passing yardage continues to rise. This is why trying to compare players from different eras is so difficult.

 

[coult44]

"They're hard to watch, man. Really hard to watch."

Maybe they can carry some bricks from the huddle to the sideline and it will fix the problems.

 

[aikemirv]

There have been several rule changes that have affected that over the years, QB protection, rules about defending WRs etc. As an example Tyrod Taylor has a career completion of 61.5% and I don't think you will find anyone, not even Tyrod's mother that would say he is as accurate as Aikman. QB stats as whole have continued to rise. INT rates continue to drop, passing yardage continues to rise. This is why trying to compare players from different eras is so difficult.

I understand that but when you are trying to compare, you have to account for possibly one of the more precise route runners ever and, one of the best olines and one of the best RB's on his team, then at least it should be closer than 4% to claim he was more accurate than Romo. Aikman also average 1 YPA less than Romo and .7 YPC less

 

[Roadtrip635]

romo spinned out of trouble and then pointed a WR he had worked with for years to a spot and they would complete it for big yardage.

romo could trust dez and witten to win physical match ups and protect the ball.

that's the issue.
we no longer have any freelance element to this offense at all because the vanilla design is to hit things on timing and defenses have more experience defending this crap than our offensive players generally do running it.

A lot of new faces not on the same page. I think it was the Carolina game, Dak is rolling to his right, there are literally 2 WRs standing on the sidelines close enough to hug each other, with their defenders of course. Jarwin is running right towards the group, with his defender, so all 3 of our players would be standing together. Dak waves at Jarwin to break it deep, but he just runs to join the group. Dak runs out of bounds for a 1-2 yd gain. I'm pretty sure the play wasn't drawn up to have all 3 in the same square foot of field. I don't know who messed up or how many...... growing pains.

 

[aikemirv]

If I could choose between Aikman or Romo as QB. I choose Aikman..

If I get to choose Jimmy Johnson over Garrett, I choose Johnson. I choose Aikmans Oline and Emmitt Smith too. I'll take any of his defenses as well.

 

[glimmerman]

I can't believe these are the route patterns. No crossers, no lateral movement, no levels, no deception. Dak has been extremely scared recently and I haven't really seen him play confidently since pre-Atlanta last year when he was slinging it weeks 3-7 in 2017. BUT, Linehan makes it hard for him to regain any of that confidence and rhythm. If he plays out the season he's gonna kill any chance Dak has at resurrecting his career.

Smart coaches would scheme simple confidence growing plays that can get the QB back into his game. Linehan found it in the read-option but decided it was too logical to continue using it. He also won't run Zeke over 20 times in a game but that's for a different thread

Pretty much right on. They are stupid for not going read option all day. Use play action and pound the rock. He is screwing himself and the HC out of a job.

 

[Miller]

It just is not true - he was not more accurate - 65% to 61% is not even close enough to argue. Aikman had a better running game and better oline protection for the majority of his career and his stats are not close. The game was a bit different but not enough to bring about a 4% difference

Wrong. Aikman was more accurate when it mattered. He's considered one of the most accurate passers in POST SEASON HISTORY! Something Tony couldn't do because he wasn't accurate in Game 16s many years. Forget the oline and running game, Troy played in an era where there was press coverage and mauling of receivers every play. The game Romo played where it was soft zone and patty cake with WRs isn't even the same.

http://www.profootballhof.com/players/troy-aikman/highlights/

Super Bowl Records

[1st] Highest Completion Percentage, Career - 70.0
[2nd] Lowest Percentage, Passes Intercepted, Career - 1.25
[Tied for 2nd] Most Consecutive Completions, Game - 10 (SB XXX, vs. Pittsburgh)
[Tied for 3rd] Most Touchdown Passes, Game - 4 (SB XXVII, vs. Buffalo)

Post-Season Records

[2nd] Longest Pass Completion - 94 (to Alvin Harper, vs. Green Bay, 1994)
[3rd] Highest Completion Percentage, Career - 63.8
[Tied for 3rd] Most Games, 300 or More Yards Passing, Career - 4
[Tied for 3rd] Most Consecutive Games, 300 or More Yards Passing - 2 (1994)
[Tied for 3rd] Most Touchdown Passes, Game - 4 (SB XXVII, vs. Buffalo)

If I get to choose Jimmy Johnson over Garrett, I choose Johnson. I choose Aikmans Oline and Emmitt Smith too. I'll take any of his defenses as well.

I'd also take Aikman and throw him into Romo's era where you passed 40 times a games with limp defense.

And I'm a Romo fan too. The arguments are just lame

 

[jterrell]

If I could choose between Aikman or Romo as QB. I choose Aikman.

Still didn't answer the question. How did Romo do what Dak is doing now? You claimed this so I want to know what Romo did that Dak is doing? I don't see Dak doing anything Romo did honestly.

Not sure what you are even saying.
I suggested that
Romo in fact DID things Dak isn't doing like create freelance plays that led to a big portion of his passing success.

 

[Denim Chicken]

the problem with this take is it is simpyl wrong, lol.
does he not see the play action fake handoff?
that slowed the play down and then a LB would have undercut and intercepted any pass.

It's an option, he had plenty of time to make the throw.