Attention Dak Haters: His Criticism is like Aaron Rodgers’

[Ken]

If you watched that game last night (and Wentz games in general) and concluded Dak makes all the same throws with the same accuracy as Wentz did, then you should run as fast as you can to an eye doctor and get your eyes checked.

There is no comparison at this point between the two QBs. Wentz has better vision, moves around the pocket better, delivers deeper passes with better accuracy, etc. He's a better QB and it's not even really close at this point. Just because he makes some simple throws that Dak has shown he can make doesn't mean they are similar QBs.

Ah...so the balls thrown behind and over the heads of Ertz and Jeffrey that they make look routine didn't happen?

Was the in motion td that was like a shuffle pass or the wide open td in the corner to ertz the throw that dak can't make?

I wish it wasn't such a pain in the *** to make vids because i would love to show all of the plays...

 

[Sydla]

Dak dropped a dime to win the game vs the lions. Idk what games you watch. If you expect him to be like drew brees that's not going to happen right now. Remember drew brees in SD.

I never said Dak never makes a play or makes a good throw. His issue is he is just wildly inconsistent. Shoot, Quincy Carter made some nice throws in his time but that doesn't mean he was a good QB.

 

[Sydla]

Ah...so the balls thrown behind and over the heads of Ertz and Jeffrey that they make look routine didn't happen?

Was the in motion td that was like a shuffle pass or the wide open td in the corner to ertz the throw that dak can't make?

I wish it wasn't such a pain in the *** to make vids because i would love to show all of the plays...

LOL.

I am curious.

Is there a point in time when you will be able to criticize Dak or will you make excuses for him forever?

 

[Hennessy_King]

I never said Dak never makes a play or makes a good throw. His issue is he is just wildly inconsistent. Shoot, Quincy Carter made some nice throws in his time but that doesn't mean he was a good QB.

Stop it's not even close to Quincy. Every QB needs to have wrs that catch the ball when it hits their hands instead of it being tipped and intercepted. You realize Dak this year hasn't thrown an int where he didn't recognize the coverage or not see a lb or safety. Romo did that all the time.

 

[Ken]

Of course Philly has better weapons. But you can still see the type of QB watching them play.

If you honestly think the difference between Wentz and Dak at this point is that the Eagles have Jeffrey and Ertz and we don't, then I just don't know what to say anymore.

if you don't see wentz staring at either Ertz or Jeffrey and playing catch with guys who win their routes....i don't know what to tell you.

 

[Hennessy_King]

LOL.

I am curious.

Is there a point in time when you will be able to criticize Dak or will you make excuses for him forever?

Yeh when we get real nfl wrs that catch balls that hit their hands or actually get open.

 

[Sydla]

if you don't see wentz staring at either Ertz or Jeffrey and playing catch with guys who win their routes....i don't know what to tell you.

The best part of some of your Dak support is when you guys try to trash other QBs in order to make Dak look better.

It's embarrassing for you guys.

 

[Sydla]

Yeh when we get real nfl wrs that catch balls that hit their hands or actually get open.

Interesting. Then explain all the times Dak misses open WRs? Like how come in the Texans game, as shown by numerous people, did Dak miss open WRs? For example, what happened when Dak was looking at Hurns beat his man clearly off the line with no safety help and he freezes from a clean pocket and then tries to quickly dump it off? Or what's going on when Dak has bad footwork in a clean pocket and throws a ball high to Austin, who is wide open?

The reality is you guys thinking Dak goes from, statistically, one of the worst passers in the NFL right now to one of the best if he gets a better WR and/or TE are misguided. He's a limited QB.

You guys want to make this a coaching or personnel problem on offense, but in reality, there's a third issue with this offense.............. the QB.

 

[Hennessy_King]

The best part of some of your Dak support is when you guys try to trash other QBs in order to make Dak look better.

It's embarrassing for you guys.

Wentz isn't that good. When you have so much talent on a team that it can win a SB with a backup qb that speaks volumes. If he was so good they would have lost first round.

 

[Sydla]

Wentz isn't that good. When you have so much talent on a team that it can win a SB with a backup qb that speaks volumes. If he was so good they would have lost first round.

Stop.

Just stop.

You lose all credibility in the Dak debate when one argues that Wentz just isn't a good QB.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Interesting. Then explain all the times Dak misses open WRs? Like how come in the Texans game, as shown by numerous people, did Dak miss open WRs? For example, what happened when Dak was looking at Hurns beat his man clearly off the line with no safety help and he freezes from a clean pocket and then tries to quickly dump it off? Or what's going on when Dak has bad footwork in a clean pocket and throws a ball high to Austin, who is wide open?

The reality is you guys thinking Dak goes from, statistically, one of the worst passers in the NFL right now to one of the best if he gets a better WR and/or TE are misguided. He's a limited QB.

That's the point of this thread. Aaron rodgers does the same thing from time to time. And he also set the rookie record for passing efficiency and most attempts without an int. That ball hit austin right in the hands and broaddus said on the all 22 austin slowed down in his route as well.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Stop.

Just stop.

You lose all credibility in the Dak debate when one argues that Wentz just isn't a good QB.

How can you say wentz is a good qb when he stat padded all year against the easiest schedule in the nfl. Then his team was so talented little **** nick foles won them a SB. lmao

 

[Legend]

The best part of some of your Dak support is when you guys try to trash other QBs in order to make Dak look better.

It's embarrassing for you guys.

This thread’s purpose was not to trash AR.

#1 - It just showed that AR and other elite QBs are criticized by fans like Dak is here.

#2 - To demonstrate that elite QBs like AR are not perfect.

#3 - If Dak is replaced by an elite QB; all of the criticism he received will not magically go away. I.e., the new elite QB will also turn the ball over, miss open reads, and make less than perfect throws... since no one is perfect.

 

[Sydla]

That's the point of this thread. Aaron rodgers does the same thing from time to time. And he also set the rookie record for passing efficiency and most attempts without an int. That ball hit austin right in the hands and broaddus said on the all 22 austin slowed down in his route as well.

Actually the point is that all QBs make mistakes, but others make less, hence why they are considered better QBs.

Are you arguing that Dak doesn't make more mistakes than say a Rodgers or Brady or Brees?

LOL at thinking that Austin throw was a good throw. Right there one knows one isn't going to be honest in these debates. He had a clean pocket and a wide open streaking WR across the middle. It was a bad throw. Doesn't mean you can't also say your WR needs to help your QB there but it doesn't change the fact it wasn't a very good throw.

 

[Sydla]

This thread’s purpose was not to trash AR.

#1 - It just showed that AR and other elite QBs are criticized by fans like Dak is here.

#2 - To demonstrate that elite QBs like AR are not perfect.

#3 - If Dak is replaced by an elite QB; all of the criticism he received will not magically go away. I.e., the new elite QB will turn the ball over, miss open reads, and make less than perfect throws.

I am not talking about AR here.

I am talking about Ken and Hennessey trying to minimize how good Wentz is to make Dak look better.

 

[Hennessy_King]

Actually the point is that all QBs make mistakes, but others make less, hence why they are considered better QBs.

Are you arguing that Dak doesn't make more mistakes than say a Rodgers or Brady or Brees?

LOL at thinking that Austin throw was a good throw. Right there one knows one isn't going to be honest in these debates. He had a clean pocket and a wide open streaking WR across the middle. It was a bad throw. Doesn't mean you can't also say your WR needs to help your QB there but it doesn't change the fact it wasn't a very good throw.

It wasn't a perfect throw but he needs to make that catch. period

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Watching the game last night brought up something.

Some put most of the blame on the Cowboys' mediocre play on Dak. Others mention the "trash" receivers as having most of the blame. And of course just about everybody mentions the poor coaching.

But no doubt ODB is an excellent receiver, and it appears Barkley is an excellent runner. But Eli, even having those players, has "led" his team to a 1-5 record.

Dak has a running back that is, from what we've seen, a runner equal to Barkley (based on rookie years). No ODB-type receiver, of course.

Is Eli - a 2 time SB winner, all of a sudden a mediocre quarterback? Last night there were several mentions about his doing what Dak (coaches) are criticized for, i.e. not throwing downfiled. Probably some of that is arm strength, Eli was never a "rifle arm" quarterback. But all of it?

In Eli's 2 SB winning years his completion %age was 56.1 and 61.0. Dak's has been no less than this year's 61.8, better than Eli's best SB winning year. Eli's 2007 SB win had his ypa at 6.3, Dak's is 6.8 this year, according to some "horrible".

Now before someone jumps to conclusions, this is not a "defend Dak" post, it's pretty clear many have already thrown Dak on the trash heap, some think Dak's all right, and some lime me are saying that the jury's still out on Dak. Most have already made up their mind, and I'm not here to attempt to change that.

What I am saying with the above is that if Dak stays as the starting quarterback, it's not automatically "doom and gloom" for the Cowboys' future, if Eli can win SBs with a 56.1% and 6.3 ypa, with an improved defense and some luck, it's not impossible for Dak to do the same.

Gotta have something to "hang my hat" on, if Dak is kept around...

 

[Sydla]

It wasn't a perfect throw but he needs to make that catch. period

Well at least we got you to admit it wasn't a good throw.

I'll throw you a bone.

If we fire Garrett and they bring in a new coach that thinks he can salvage Dak, I'll give that coach the leeway. I most definitely would not give Dak an extension until he performed under that new coach however.

And that's really the dilemma at this point. Next year is his contract year. You willing to sign Dak to a big extension soon to make him the franchise QB for the next 4-6 years?

 

[LACowboysFan1]

It wasn't a perfect throw but he needs to make that catch. period

Would be nice to see one of our receivers do like Hopkins did in the Texans game - take a 10 yard pass and turn it into a 49 yard gain. ODB makes a one handed grab while falling backwards: our guys can't catch a slightly overthrown ball...

 

[Hennessy_King]

Well at least we got you to admit it wasn't a good throw.

QBs all over the league sometimes don't make perfect throws but their wrs catch the ball when it hits their hands.