How long do running quarterbacks last in the NFL?

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Fran Tarkenton

Career stats: 47,003 passing yards, 342 passing touchdowns, 266 interceptions, 3,674 rushing yards, 32 rushing touchdowns
Individual accolades: 9-time Pro Bowl selection, 2-time All-Pro, 1975 MVP/Offensive Player of the Year

Fran Tarkenton played 18 seasons for the Minnesota Vikings and New York Giants, finishing as one of the best dual-threat quarterbacks in NFL history. When he retired in 1978, he was the all-time leader in pass attempts, completions, passing yards, passing touchdowns, rushing yards by a quarterback and wins by a starting quarterback. Although Tarkenton was never able to bring a Super Bowl title to either franchise he played for, his individual excellence made him a no-brainer to be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1986.

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Steve Young

Career stats: 33,124 passing yards, 232 passing touchdowns, 107 interceptions, 4,239 rushing yards, 43 rushing touchdowns
Individual accolades: 3-time Super Bowl champion, 7-time Pro Bowl selection, 6-time All-Pro selection, 2-time MVP (1992, 1994)

Known as one of the greatest dual-threat quarterbacks in NFL history, Steve Young had the nearly impossible task of replacing Joe Montana in San Francisco. However, the BYU alum filled the void admirably, winning 2 MVP awards and a Super Bowl MVP during his eight years as the franchise’s leader. In addition to his prowess as a passer, Young sits third all-time among quarterbacks with 4,239 career rushing yards, but still falls just short of cracking the top 10 on this list.

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John Elway

Career stats: 51,475 passing yards, 300 touchdowns, 226 interceptions
Individual accolades: 2-time Super Bowl champion, NFL MVP (1987), 9-time Pro Bowl selection

The storybook ending to a Hall of Fame career, Elway capped his legacy by winning back-to-back Super Bowls, defeating the Packers and Falcons. The ultimate dual-threat, Elway rushed for four touchdowns in his Super Bowl appearances.


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It's not like running QBS run directly at the defensive line unless its a QB sneak. Running QBs have the advantage of holding the D by having the threat of throwing the ball. Dak is a big guy and his running abilities should be utilized more...because that appears to play to his skill set.
 

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How long do running quarterbacks last in the NFL?

Name some running quarterbacks and how long their career was in the NFL.

Fran Tarkenton - 18 years.
Tim Tebow - 3 years
Randall Cunningham -16 years.
RG III - 4 years

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Come on now.

He is below average passing, sure, but he is top 3 in the league as a running QB - as his record proves, see my sig.

Average that out, prove it as sustainable - you get someone in the ballpark of Cam Newton.
Top 3? Absolutely not....Wilson, Watson, Mahomes, Cam and Josh Allen are all better rushers....and I'd even argue that Wentz (assuming healthy) and Trubisky are better as well. Lamar Jackson isn't starting but he's also much better. Prescott is sturdy but outside of that his rushing is nothing special.
 

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what does number 2 and 4 have in common?

Same era?

Okay, we can look at variances in more recent times.

Russell Wilson - 7th year and counting.
Cam Newton - 8th year and counting.
Michael Vick - 13 years
Donovan McNabb - 13 years

I'm also sure we could find examples from the 70's, 80s and 90's of running QBs that didn't last as long as Tarkenton or Cunningham, but it's harder to remember players from that far back that only lasted a few years.
 

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LOL at the arguments between a running QB vs a scrambling QB. Most of Dak's runs were scrambles not designed run plays this last game. He had around 4 or so designed runs probably called (at least that was indicated by the Talking Cowboys show fwiw). So 4 designed runs called that are not just scrambles that happened to net good yardage and THAT is what separates a running vs scrambling QB? Talk about nit picking.

Anyway, I'll have to see it to believe it with our coaches. I fully expect almost no QB runs for a couple games since it worked so well last time (like how it worked in week 2 vs the Giants, then we didn't try it again till last game, week 6).
 

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How long do running quarterbacks last in the NFL?

Name some running quarterbacks and how long their career was in the NFL.
Dak is on pace to run much more this year than in the past. On pace for 500+ yards.
But generally, I think of him as a 200-300/year guy....like Alex Smith.
Smith has played 13 season in the league.

The rules favor QBs more now, so I'm not too worried.
 

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Steve Young ran for over 4K Yards..

How many realized Young ran that much.
Steve Young could literally run backwards and lap Dak.
Dude ran a 4.55 forty and was timed more than once at under 4.4

But really, he only averaged about 300 yards per year. A lot for a QB, but not overwhelming
 

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LOL at the arguments between a running QB vs a scrambling QB. Most of Dak's runs were scrambles not designed run plays this last game. He had around 4 or so designed runs probably called (at least that was indicated by the Talking Cowboys show fwiw). So 4 designed runs called that are not just scrambles that happened to net good yardage and THAT is what separates a running vs scrambling QB? Talk about nit picking.

Anyway, I'll have to see it to believe it with our coaches. I fully expect almost no QB runs for a couple games since it worked so well last time (like how it worked in week 2 vs the Giants, then we didn't try it again till last game, week 6).

I tried to make this same point a day or two ago as a response to those talking about this game as a notable change in offensive philosophy. The reality is that Dak having more rushing yardage than usual isn't really from him having significantly more run plays called for him, it's from the success of the runs, many of which were scrambles rather than by design.
 

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Dak is on pace to run much more this year than in the past. On pace for 500+ yards.
But generally, I think of him as a 200-300/year guy....like Alex Smith.
Smith has played 13 season in the league.

The rules favor QBs more now, so I'm not too worried.

I can see him being a 300-400 yard guy, but at the end of the day, despite what I think some fans believe (not saying you), that is just an enhancement to the offense and does not replace the need for him to pass from the pocket. No QB can make it in the NFL only with a combination of running and throwing on the move (rollouts - floating pockets etc ...).
 

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Really depends are you challenging defenders or sliding and getting out of bounds? Frankly some of the biggest hits I have seen on QB have happened in the pocket as DE/OLB coming off the edge or blitzer up the middle getting a free shot on the QB. Where a running QB gets in trouble is when they are dealing with ankle sprain or knee injury that prevents them from being effective as a runner.
 

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I tried to make this same point a day or two ago as a response to those talking about this game as a notable change in offensive philosophy. The reality is that Dak having more rushing yardage than usual isn't really from him having significantly more run plays called for him, it's from the success of the runs, many of which were scrambles rather than by design.
That would be an interesting stat to take a look at.

Designed running plays versus scrambles.
 

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I can see him being a 300-400 yard guy, but at the end of the day, despite what I think some fans believe (not saying you), that is just an enhancement to the offense and does not replace the need for him to pass from the pocket. No QB can make it in the NFL only with a combination of running and throwing on the move (rollouts - floating pockets etc ...).
Good stuff. I like your insight on the subject.

IMO designed runs and scrambling makes Dak more effective. It gives the defenses more to think about with his passing weaknesses.

And why it should be utilized more. I don’t believe it’s a coincidence that Dak and our offense is more effective as a result.
 
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