So you want a new QB?

CowboyRoy

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It would be nice to hire a competent coach and let him pick his staff and let that coaching staff make the decision on Dak. But IF Jerry does fire Garrett he will also force whatever assistants he wants onto the new coach thus we’ll still be screwed. And Jerry will also force Dak onto the new coach thus tying his hands and sealing his fate before he even coaches a single game.

Dak deserves a chance with real coaching like everyone else.
 

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I ask this..

If not DAK..

then who?

Are you really going to trust this team to find your next QB and actually develop him?

They were unable to get Romo there after nearly 10+ years.

They then failed to have a replacement ready in Weeden who they had for 2 years.

Then the parade of QB in 2015..

NOTHING.

And remember..

we tried to trade up for Paxton Lynch before Denver took him.

We all know what happened to Lynch.

We do not know what we are doing.

Before we solve the QB thing..

we have to redo the consortium of failed QBs masquerading as qualified experts.

Keller Moore has to go as does Linehan and Sanjay.

Since we do not have a #1 draft pick in 2019..

that means 2020 before we hae the pick to use on a QB.replacement.

FA could be an answer.

But again..

I highly doubt we have the staff in place to make that work.

And that means more delays while our OL is rebuilt.

Time will slip away.

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What I want is Lincoln Riley to coach dak next year. See if they can make it work. Otherwise I want the Alabama QB next year when he is eligible.
 

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if we are not gonna let the new coach....if there is one....pick his QB,then why bother to make any change at all.

if the new guy is allowed...then by all means...sign your vet f/a or draft your guy.

no...I don't trust this staff....or #4.....at all.
SCORCHED.
EARTH.
new H.C/new Staff...they decide on QB.

This. No sense in getting a new QB without a new HC and staff.
 

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I ask this..

If not DAK..

then who?

Are you really going to trust this team to find your next QB and actually develop him?

They were unable to get Romo there after nearly 10+ years.

They then failed to have a replacement ready in Weeden who they had for 2 years.

Then the parade of QB in 2015..

NOTHING.

And remember..

we tried to trade up for Paxton Lynch before Denver took him.

We all know what happened to Lynch.

We do not know what we are doing.

Before we solve the QB thing..

we have to redo the consortium of failed QBs masquerading as qualified experts.

Keller Moore has to go as does Linehan and Sanjay.

Since we do not have a #1 draft pick in 2019..

that means 2020 before we hae the pick to use on a QB.replacement.

FA could be an answer.

But again..

I highly doubt we have the staff in place to make that work.

And that means more delays while our OL is rebuilt.

Time will slip away.

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I want another head coach and OC. Dak has done well when he runs the offense his style. These coaches refuse to use the things that Dak is strong at.

Get rid of our coaches we get rid of our most glaring issues.

Dak has regressed badly. This is an indictment on bad coaching and less so on Dak. Dak may not be all world. But any QB under this coaching staff will end up with the same fate as Dak. Count on it!
 

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I ask this..

If not DAK..

then who?

Are you really going to trust this team to find your next QB and actually develop him?

They were unable to get Romo there after nearly 10+ years.

They then failed to have a replacement ready in Weeden who they had for 2 years.

Then the parade of QB in 2015..

NOTHING.

And remember..

we tried to trade up for Paxton Lynch before Denver took him.

We all know what happened to Lynch.

We do not know what we are doing.

Before we solve the QB thing..

we have to redo the consortium of failed QBs masquerading as qualified experts.

Keller Moore has to go as does Linehan and Sanjay.

Since we do not have a #1 draft pick in 2019..

that means 2020 before we hae the pick to use on a QB.replacement.

FA could be an answer.

But again..

I highly doubt we have the staff in place to make that work.

And that means more delays while our OL is rebuilt.

Time will slip away.

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Red i think you are right but you are too black/white also.

First i think linehan is tied to the talent level his qb has. And the job our wr coach did i dont think is a bad one. This QB we have is very very medicore.

All this team is lacking right now is a franchise QB. Of course JJ and JG know that Dak isnt the answer right now. But until they find another solution they will support him. What should they do instead ? What would any other manager do ? This position is so fragile when it comes to self-confidence.

The trade for Cooper was a big mistake. To not have a first round pick in 2019 will haunt us at least for 2 or 3 years. Now we are stuck to Dak for at least another year. Lets assume we draft a QB in 2020 he will.need at least 1 year to get acclimated to the NFL. That means 2021 is the year we can compete again. IF he pans out.

The critic i have right now is that we needed to get all in place to judge Dak. We missed a WR to judge our QB ? Sorry i dont believe this.

Dak has shown everything that his college Profile suggested. And he did not elevate his play in any way. If our FO didnt get it by now they have no clue. All the WR trades are just a fake to brush that aside.

From a coaching stanbdpoint this team is lacking a real QB coach. Someone who evaluates QB talent and is able to bring him along to the NFL game. But what do you expect ? We werent in this business for the last 25 years. This franchise was always set on taking risks not wisdom (JJ do you feel me ?).

Something has to change!
 
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Dak deserves a chance with real coaching like everyone else.

I agree. That’s why I said let the staff make their decision. I hat hope Jerry doesn’t extend him before next season. I could see him doing that.
 

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I ask this..

If not DAK..

then who?

Are you really going to trust this team to find your next QB and actually develop him?

They were unable to get Romo there after nearly 10+ years.

They then failed to have a replacement ready in Weeden who they had for 2 years.

Then the parade of QB in 2015..

NOTHING.

And remember..

we tried to trade up for Paxton Lynch before Denver took him.

We all know what happened to Lynch.

We do not know what we are doing.

Before we solve the QB thing..

we have to redo the consortium of failed QBs masquerading as qualified experts.

Keller Moore has to go as does Linehan and Sanjay.

Since we do not have a #1 draft pick in 2019..

that means 2020 before we hae the pick to use on a QB.replacement.

FA could be an answer.

But again..

I highly doubt we have the staff in place to make that work.

And that means more delays while our OL is rebuilt.

Time will slip away.

Comments?
What top guys did we miss out on that are doing so great?

Sam Darnold....Josh Rosen....Josh Allen.... Jameis Winston...Blake Bortles....Johnny Manziel

Baker Mayfield.... Paxton Lynch....Brock Osweiler....Derk Carr....MMariota.... RGIII.....Trubisky
 

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Does this look familiar? Dak's scouting report out of college:

Weaknesses
  • Inconsistency mars almost every aspect of his game, especially mechanically
  • Rocks back with a slight hitch in his delivery when putting zip on the ball
  • Can wind up with longer release when going down the field
  • Tendency to release the ball a tad early, resulting in a sailing or fluttering pass
  • Needs to vary the pace of the ball to match the situation/route (no bullets on screens)
  • Location and accuracy are generally poor, makes receivers adjust to off-target balls and minimizes yards after catch
  • Makes very poor decisions at times, forces passes into coverage
  • Footwork can get sloppy, will fall off his base throwing to his left, loses accuracy/velocity
  • Doesn’t possess the heralded “power arm” that he was once rumored to have
  • Deep ball accuracy is lacking, touch passing needs a compass
  • Does not throw with anticipation, poor timing leads to late throws to all areas of the field
  • Can be confused and fooled by more intricate coverage schemes (ex. Alabama’s pattern reading)
  • Lacks accuracy and velocity when throwing on the move
  • Not a great athlete, heavy-footed and lacking lateral quickness and explosiveness as a runner
 

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What top guys did we miss out on that are doing so great?

Sam Darnold....Josh Rosen....Josh Allen.... Jameis Winston...Blake Bortles....Johnny Manziel

Baker Mayfield.... Paxton Lynch....Brock Osweiler....Derk Carr....MMariota.... RGIII.....Trubisky
Winston and Lynch and Bortles maybe available.

I would keep DAK over them.
 

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Does this look familiar? Dak's scouting report out of college:

Weaknesses
  • Inconsistency mars almost every aspect of his game, especially mechanically
  • Rocks back with a slight hitch in his delivery when putting zip on the ball
  • Can wind up with longer release when going down the field
  • Tendency to release the ball a tad early, resulting in a sailing or fluttering pass
  • Needs to vary the pace of the ball to match the situation/route (no bullets on screens)
  • Location and accuracy are generally poor, makes receivers adjust to off-target balls and minimizes yards after catch
  • Makes very poor decisions at times, forces passes into coverage
  • Footwork can get sloppy, will fall off his base throwing to his left, loses accuracy/velocity
  • Doesn’t possess the heralded “power arm” that he was once rumored to have
  • Deep ball accuracy is lacking, touch passing needs a compass
  • Does not throw with anticipation, poor timing leads to late throws to all areas of the field
  • Can be confused and fooled by more intricate coverage schemes (ex. Alabama’s pattern reading)
  • Lacks accuracy and velocity when throwing on the move
  • Not a great athlete, heavy-footed and lacking lateral quickness and explosiveness as a runner
Where was this when we drafted him?

We never drafted him to immediately start.

He was supposed to be a project that needed time.
 

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Where was this when we drafted him?

We never drafted him to immediately start.

He was supposed to be a project that needed time.

Yes this is when he came out of college. It's been 3 years for this "project" and I don't see any improvement... Do you? Actually, the "project" has regressed. Time to move on...
 

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Does this look familiar? Dak's scouting report out of college:

Weaknesses
  • Inconsistency mars almost every aspect of his game, especially mechanically
  • Rocks back with a slight hitch in his delivery when putting zip on the ball
  • Can wind up with longer release when going down the field
  • Tendency to release the ball a tad early, resulting in a sailing or fluttering pass
  • Needs to vary the pace of the ball to match the situation/route (no bullets on screens)
  • Location and accuracy are generally poor, makes receivers adjust to off-target balls and minimizes yards after catch
  • Makes very poor decisions at times, forces passes into coverage
  • Footwork can get sloppy, will fall off his base throwing to his left, loses accuracy/velocity
  • Doesn’t possess the heralded “power arm” that he was once rumored to have
  • Deep ball accuracy is lacking, touch passing needs a compass
  • Does not throw with anticipation, poor timing leads to late throws to all areas of the field
  • Can be confused and fooled by more intricate coverage schemes (ex. Alabama’s pattern reading)
  • Lacks accuracy and velocity when throwing on the move
  • Not a great athlete, heavy-footed and lacking lateral quickness and explosiveness as a runner
Lets skip over that part :laugh:
 

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I ask this..

If not DAK..

then who?

Are you really going to trust this team to find your next QB and actually develop him?

They were unable to get Romo there after nearly 10+ years.

They then failed to have a replacement ready in Weeden who they had for 2 years.

Then the parade of QB in 2015..

NOTHING.

And remember..

we tried to trade up for Paxton Lynch before Denver took him.

We all know what happened to Lynch.

We do not know what we are doing.

Before we solve the QB thing..

we have to redo the consortium of failed QBs masquerading as qualified experts.

Keller Moore has to go as does Linehan and Sanjay.

Since we do not have a #1 draft pick in 2019..

that means 2020 before we hae the pick to use on a QB.replacement.

FA could be an answer.

But again..

I highly doubt we have the staff in place to make that work.

And that means more delays while our OL is rebuilt.

Time will slip away.

Comments?
We don’t need the answer to pursue options in the draft or free agency.

Too bad we gave up our 1st round pick.
 

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Yes this is when he came out of college. It's been 3 years for this "project" and I don't see any improvement... Do you? Actually, the "project" has regressed. Time to move on...
I really don't know.

I would love to see Garrett go..

but I think he is here to stay.

For awhile longer

I consider that we have the youngest average age in the NFL.

That right there means mistakes and inexperience.

And DAK has had issues but..

Linehan is not using him or Zeke correctly.

No RPO's last week to speak of for DAK?

Lunacy.

Zeke gets almost no carries in the second half?

So the two main weapons that could help..

couldn't.

And our OL has just collapsed.

So do you blame Garrett?

Some.

But he is taking direct orders from Jerrah.

So failures and successes begin and end with Jerrah.

Coach Jerrah.

Oh yeah..

Witten and Dez are gone.

No prob. We will just get a bunch of guys by committee to do it.

Hmmm..

I do not believe Garrett is responsible for this stuff.

But he has to constantly deal with crap other teams don't deal with.

So Garrett probably is on the fence with Jerrah but no way does Jerrah make Garrett his Fall Guy like some think he deserves.

So I just hope Cooper works out well and that problem is solved.

Next issue is the injured DL.

We are very down on injuries and no pressure on the QB will destroy us Sunday.

Not that excited right now.
 

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Lets skip over that part :laugh:
I think we did.

Unfortunately it now appears.

Frankly..

when DAK was drafted I paid little attention.

4th Rd?

I figured he would get in line behind Romo and we would not see him until TC the next year.

Surprise.

So this has been a very strange year and typical for our reputation.

Other teams have us in decline and hanging by a thread.

The Iggles can end our season Monday Night.

Not too happy
 
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