News: Dallas Cowboys: It’s time to start giving Dak Prescott some credit

Dre11

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yes. they have stars and they boast great offenses. is that hard to comprehend? when you do "lol" it usually means you are struggling to answer...we had stars and still struggled offensively....put Dak on any of those teams and they will be average offensively.

No it may mean you have trouble, Its laughing at you and your weak attempt to say these guys carry their teams..again...lol
 

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there is no doubt that Dak plays decently against weaker defenses specially weaker pass defenses. usually because they allow the WRs to be more open and more separation so he can make the safe throws. GB was 31st ranked pass defense. he struggles really bad against better defenses. Titans shut him down. yeah yeah yeah he had 243 yards....a lot of which came in the end of 4th quarter trying to make a come back against prevent defense collecting garbage yards...

and yes, addition of cooper helps him....so Dak can be a good bus driver. play it safe. let the defense and running game help him and make a play or two here and there.....

and some blame is on JG and Linehan. Both come from timing offenses that requires ability to pass from the pocket and be accurate and have the anticipation to make throws. Dak doesn't fit that bill and probably bette suited to a west coast style of offense that puts him on the move, neither of those guys are west coast guys....
For the most part. I agree. A WCO would suit Dak better.
 

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No it may mean you have trouble, Its laughing at you and your weak attempt to say these guys carry their teams..again...lol
these guys carry their team? that's the one theme you keep trying to hang your hat on in defending Dak..... these guys elevate their team when given the right resources around them. they win league MVP and boast top5 offenses. Dak aspires to middle of the pack with same resources....

not sure why bashing other QBs makes Dak a better player in your mind and why you are attacking other QBs..... Stick to your baseless Dak defense. that suited you better...... its not about Brady, Roth,, Ryan, Wilson, Luck, Wentz, Goff, Mahomes, Cousins, Brees, Newton, Mayfield all of whom are better QBs than dak some by afew miles.....its about Dak's inabilities to be a successful passer in this league and his low ceiling. again, Dak's low ceiling.....

seems like you have no hat to hang your hat in defending Dak so now you are attacking other QBs trying to knock them....

btw, Dak doesn't carry this team. hasn't even in your wonderful 2016 season.
 

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these guys carry their team? that's the one theme you keep trying to hang your hat on in defending Dak..... these guys elevate their team when given the right resources around them. they win league MVP and boast top5 offenses. Dak aspires to middle of the pack with same resources....

not sure why bashing other QBs makes Dak a better player in your mind and why you are attacking other QBs..... Stick to your baseless Dak defense. that suited you better...... its not about Brady, Roth,, Ryan, Wilson, Luck, Wentz, Goff, Mahomes, Cousins, Brees, Newton, Mayfield all of whom are better QBs than dak some by afew miles.....its about Dak's inabilities to be a successful passer in this league and his low ceiling. again, Dak's low ceiling.....

seems like you have no hat to hang your hat in defending Dak so now you are attacking other QBs trying to knock them....

btw, Dak doesn't carry this team. hasn't even in your wonderful 2016 season.
Dak carried his team more than Tony Romo ever could. When it's all said n done Dak make the Cowboys great again.

Only 7 other active qbs could do that
 

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these guys carry their team? that's the one theme you keep trying to hang your hat on in defending Dak..... these guys elevate their team when given the right resources around them. they win league MVP and boast top5 offenses. Dak aspires to middle of the pack with same resources....

not sure why bashing other QBs makes Dak a better player in your mind and why you are attacking other QBs..... Stick to your baseless Dak defense. that suited you better...... its not about Brady, Roth,, Ryan, Wilson, Luck, Wentz, Goff, Mahomes, Cousins, Brees, Newton, Mayfield all of whom are better QBs than dak some by afew miles.....its about Dak's inabilities to be a successful passer in this league and his low ceiling. again, Dak's low ceiling.....

seems like you have no hat to hang your hat in defending Dak so now you are attacking other QBs trying to knock them....

btw, Dak doesn't carry this team. hasn't even in your wonderful 2016 season.


Again can you comprehend, I never said Dak carries this team, I never said Dak was great, I never said Dak was even better, it's you who keep moving the goalposts. What I did say was non of the guys you named are elite outside of Brady,Rodgers, and Brees. And neither of the guys you named carries their teams. Your drivel holds no water.
 

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Again can you comprehend, I never said Dak carries this team, I never said Dak was great, I never said Dak was even better, it's you who keep moving the goalposts. What I did say was non of the guys you named are elite outside of Brady,Rodgers, and Brees. And neither of the guys you named carries their teams. Your drivel holds no water.
Wilson is better than rodgers and Brees.

More rings, more championship win, and with less talent.

Brees is a perennial loser. And Aaron Rodgers is a Stat padding choker.
 

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Wilson is better than rodgers and Brees.

More rings, more championship win, and with less talent.

Brees is a perennial loser. And Aaron Rodgers is a Stat padding choker.

You are a fool....no reason to keep responding, you've just picked up your ignorant card. You just discounted the defense Wilson had.
 

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He has some talent. He lacks others. It's those that he lacks that will limit him his entire career, and why he should be a backup somewhere (I'd be happy if that were here assuming the contract was representative of a backup). That's a separate issue from mechanics and some other skills that he can develop and improve on.
There is no factual basis to your statement for the future. None whatsoever. No way you know this.
 

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There is no factual basis to your statement for the future. None whatsoever. No way you know this.

It is my assessment from watching him. It was my initial assessment in 2016. He has only strengthened my view with his play.

There is a difference between talent and skill. Talent is natural, skill is developed.
 

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I am with you. and that's the point. Dak is a bus driver. and he is good at being a bus driver. and since we know that, we need to surround him with elite players and he will drive the bus. the challenge is inevitably in the playoffs you will need to win a game by passing and against a team with a good defense and I havent' seen anything from dak that suggests we can over come that.

Guess what? All the elite QBs need to be surrounded by talent. All of them. Notice how Rogers isn't as productive since he's best receiver left. Notice how the Patriots keep surrounding Brady with top talent.

You think that the Chief and Rams don't have talented players surrounding their QBs? This argument that Dak needs to be surrounded by talent in order to produce is silly. ALL QBs, bus drivers or not, need talent.
 

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Guess what? All the elite QBs need to be surrounded by talent. All of them. Notice how Rogers isn't as productive since he's best receiver left. Notice how the Patriots keep surrounding Brady with top talent.

You think that the Chief and Rams don't have talented players surrounding their QBs? This argument that Dak needs to be surrounded by talent in order to produce is silly. ALL QBs, bus drivers or not, need talent.
:hammer:
 

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It is my assessment from watching him. It was my initial assessment in 2016. He has only strengthened my view with his play.

There is a difference between talent and skill. Talent is natural, skill is developed.

Lol.....yep. The man has a lot of talent but some of his skill set needs some work....like I said in a previous post. Get him an OC and a QB Coach and he can go from good to very good.
 
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