The Raven’s should be proof Garrett and Linehan are not taking advantage of Dak’s skill set!

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The ravens were 0 for the red zone. They scored 1 offensive TD.

Now, Wink Martindale’s unit was dominant for 60 minutes....
The Raven’s and their offense did what they had to do to win. Also, Jackson outplayed Rivers.
 

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Then he wants to cripple Dak's effectiveness.

Why draft a running QB if you're not going to run him? I'm sure there were better pure passers available.

We drafted McGee too. And Quincy Carter. White is the first pure passer we drafted since Aikman.

After drafting only running QBs for a couple of decades, we decided QBs shouldn't run?

Clown Team.
Clown HC with a talented team! Sad.
 

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I don’t want our team to be the Ravens...

We’ve seen this song and dance before - these scrambling QBs always have these streaks that get fans riled up like they are the next Michael Vick.

Lamar isn’t as electric, has low football IQ, and is even worse accuracy wise. All he has in common with Vick is he’s fragile.

Ravens will win a game in the playoffs and then they will see their experiment fail next year when Lamar actually has to throw more than 19 times a game and use his brain.
I don’t wan’t our team to be the Raven’s either, but I do want us to take advantage of Dak’s skill set. I don’t want Dak running 15 times a game, but 5-6 times could help this O. Also, let Dak go no huddle. There are many things Garrett and Linehan could do to coach to Dak’s strengths which they do not do!!
 

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Yes, they are the reason Dakota is an innacurate, Deer in the Headlights, non defense reading, non pocket prescense, forum All Star.

This is truly the fault of the Ravens. Did I mention he has all the necessary intangibles?
This is proof that @PAPPYDOG has 2 accounts in here.
 

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This coming from the #1 Garrett fan on this site. I must have hit a nerve being critical of “Clappy”. What the Raven’s did is take advantage of their QB’s skill set. The Raven’s didn’t score a lot of points, but they controlled time of possession. They beat a team they were suppose to lose to because they ALLOWED their QB to do what he does best. Of course they played great D too.

Do we really take advantage of Dak’s skill set?


It's like saying -

"We should let Dez run back shoulder fades all game, it's what he's good at!! I know the coaches only have a limited amount of time to work with him and teach him to run other routes, but Dez is only effective running the back shoulder fades!! We are wasting Dez having him trying to learn other routes!!"


After he becomes slow, beat up, and set in his ways from years of "getting by" being a "running" QB, do you expect Dak to suddenly learn propped footwork in his 30s?

Stephen knows what's up.

If Dak doesn't learn how to be a pocket QB now, when will he? He's already behind the curve for his age...

God forbid we sign him long term and have a guy that can't run anymore and never learned the propped way to play the QB position.

It'll be Dez Bryant all over again.
 

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It's like saying -

"We should let Dez run back shoulder fades all game, it's what he's good at!! I know the coaches only have a limited amount of time to work with him and teach him to run other routes, but Dez is only effective running the back shoulder fades!! We are wasting Dez having him trying to learn other routes!!"


After he becomes slow, beat up, and set in his ways from years of "getting by" being a "running" QB, do you expect Dak to suddenly learn propped footwork in his 30s?

Stephen knows what's up.

If Dak doesn't learn how to be a pocket QB now, when will he? He's already behind the curve for his age...

God forbid we sign him long term and have a guy that can't run anymore and never learned the propped way to play the QB position.

It'll be Dez Bryant all over again.
An overwhelming majority of Dak's passes are from inside the pocket.
 

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This coming from the #1 Garrett fan on this site. I must have hit a nerve being critical of “Clappy”. What the Raven’s did is take advantage of their QB’s skill set. The Raven’s didn’t score a lot of points, but they controlled time of possession. They beat a team they were suppose to lose to because they ALLOWED their QB to do what he does best. Of course they played great D too.

Do we really take advantage of Dak’s skill set?

They scored one offensive TD.

And yes, we take advantage of Dak’s skill set. He has the skill set of a low fourth round pick. I’d say our coahches have done well with Dak, but the. I’m capable of looking at things rationally.
 

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They scored one offensive TD.

And yes, we take advantage of Dak’s skill set. He has the skill set of a low fourth round pick. I’d say our coahches have done well with Dak, but the. I’m capable of looking at things rationally.
Respectfully...

Meh. I could use Dak better. Guaranteed.

They need to use Dak's skillset better.
 

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Then why do you want to turn him into a Running Back?
Running 4-6 times a game is not considered being turned into a running back. Did you consider Roger Staubach a running back?

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Why are Garrett and Linehan handcuffing Dak? We need to take advantage of EVERYTHING Dak does well( designed runs on occasion, more RPO’s, more read options, the option, more no huddle early in games, etc., etc.)

The Raven’s have designed their offense around their rookie QB. Are we doing that for Dak? This coaching staff is not doing everything possible to make Dak and our Offense more successful!!!!

The coaches have time to fix this before the Playoffs. Will they?
Dak looked good as a rookie too and he was a 4th round pick not a 1st rounder!
 

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Respectfully...

Meh. I could use Dak better. Guaranteed.

They need to use Dak's skillset better.

It’s an easy thing to say, but hen talk is cheap.

I’d say by most realistic measures Dak has dramatically outperformed expectations. I’d also say, we’ve seen pretty clear evidence that the guy plays better when you give him someone to throw it to. And that we saw in 2016 he plays better yet when you manage to protect him adequately.

Pretty good evidence to me that the issues with Dak are more about who he plays with than how he’s used.
 

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It’s an easy thing to say, but hen talk is cheap.

I’d say by most realistic measures Dak has dramatically outperformed expectations. I’d also say, we’ve seen pretty clear evidence that the guy plays better when you give him someone to throw it to. And that we saw in 2016 he plays better yet when you manage to protect him adequately.

Pretty good evidence to me that the issues with Dak are more about who he plays with than how he’s used.
Agreed, but I still feel he's not being fully used. I understand the caution for injury, but there's got to be a good 4-6 downs that Dak's legs could be used to the Cowboys advantage, especially in crucially needed 1st downs to keep drives alive and in the red zone. Dak is built like a linebacker. He can handle a few runs. It's what made him and his college team so successful at Mississippi State.
 

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Running 4-6 times a game is not considered being turned into a running back. Did you consider Roger Staubach a running back?

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Different Era

Why don't you pull up the stats from the 1950's QBs while you're at it..

If running your QB was so effective, how the heck did Bellichick win 5 Super Bowls with the statue known as Tom Brady?!!

I could list all the "running QBs" that came and went but I don't have the time or desire..

This league is geared toward a QB that can throw from the pocket, and I know you will say that Dak can do that, but my question then becomes why do you want Dak to have designated runs?

The answer? Because Dak can't win on his arm alone at this point...

the solution would be to make him learn proper footwork (fix accuracy) and to make him learn to navigate the pocket instead of trying to take off at the first sight of pressure..

By letting Dak be a Running QB , you are stunting his growth and letting him get by on his athleticism but it won't last forever..

As I said, Dez Bryant comes to mind.
 
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