Dak Pass Chart vs Bucs

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The answer depends on the available options.

What can happen immediately is replacing the OC and QB coach, but if you know of a future HOF QB who is on the market in 2019 let us know.
There isn’t any. Because teams don’t let those type of quarterbacks go. But these guys feel anything is better than what we have. Exactly what the Vikings said when they gave 30 million to Kirk.
 

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My take is that 3 of your 4 spoiler alerts had about 2X the number of passes (Dak 25 attempts) (Rapistburger at 50, Winston at 48, and Foles at 49). Only Foles looks outstanding but that because of his 470 yards. Double Daks attempts and you get the desired 300+ yard game. Right?

One other note about your examples. Only Foles had an int.. Interesting. Thanks for the informative post ... I like illustrations.
Dak would have more pass attempts oi he converted more first downs.
 

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The answer depends on the available options.

What can happen immediately is replacing the OC and QB coach, but if you know of a future HOF QB who is on the market in 2019 let us know.

Not my Job to know....but replacing inept Dak with another QB shouldn't be hard as he's GRADE D for sure for sure.....heck bring David Carr out of retirement I'll bet you our passing game will be rated much higher than it is today....now don't bring up the low cap number he has as you know how that goes....you usually get what you pay for.....

 

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Yeah, he protects it well enough to fumble every other sack. We need to rename the team the Dallas Greyhounds and let Dak drive us.

Dak protects the ball when he's choosing whether to throw, which was the context of my comment.
 

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Can we stop this nonsense? Routes are run down the field routinely. Scott Linehan isn't telling the QB to checkdown constantly. He's doing it on his own because he lacks the talent to do anything else.

Put Patrick Mahomes in that game with that same "teh scheme!", the same plays called, the same routes run and you'd see a productive passing game with plays made everywhere on the field. Put Prescott in there and you get Checkdown Charlie. One's talented, the other isn't. Scott Linehan is a fan cop out.
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Thank you!
I give it about 60% SL, 30% DAK, 10% what Def allows them
If teams are playing 8 in the box to stop the one player with talent in the backfield. . . how could it be that this is the ideal real estate to throw in. No no no it is crowded, this is not what "defenses are giving" no this is Daks comfort zone. And its Win Win for defenses.
 

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Not my Job to know....but replacing inept Dak with another QB shouldn't be hard...

Anyone can randomly complain then when asked who, specifically, could be an available option just push it off on someone else. It's the laziest of lazy answers. :rolleyes:

Sometimes, you have to do the best you can with the available options. As of right now, that's Dak. There's no savior coming in next year's draft and no $150 million free agent QB. So all of the griping, complaining, and useless Youtube videos are just emotional venting. You have every right to do it, just don't get mad when someone doesn't find such contributions to be of any value.
 

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Anyone can randomly complain then when asked who, specifically, could be an available option just push it off on someone else. It's the laziest of lazy answers. :rolleyes:

Sometimes, you have to do the best you can with the available options. As of right now, that's Dak. There's no savior coming in next year's draft and no $150 million free agent QB. So all of the griping, complaining, and useless Youtube videos are just emotional venting. You have every right to do it, just don't get mad when someone doesn't find such contributions to be of any value.

Stay with inept Dak as all other options are closed.....you Dak-Zoids are a blast as your Cowboy world starts and ends with Dak :eek:one of the worst talented QB we have had under center since 1960.....
 

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This is more of a scheme issue than a player issue, if you want to attack someone linehan
Most plays, there is at least one WR open downfield, but Dak chooses to dump it off instead of throwing deep passes. It is a continuous problem that Dak has had, even before Cooper arrived. This has been pointed out by every commentator, coach and WR that has been asked about it. I am all for Linehan moving on, but in his defense, he is running Garrett’s scheme which requires a QB to have talent in areas that Dak doesn’t have. In this case, Linehan is going to take the fall for doing just what he has been told to do, which is running an offense that requires better QB play.
 

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I'm just glad he has a throwing chart. How many times has he got scared and runs backward into the defense 10 yards behind the line. Heck I'd like to see a chart of his sacks and how far back he runs to take us out of good field goal range.
 

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I guess you didn't watch Prescott in College.

"His senior year, completion percentage went up because he threw mostly dump offs and checkdowns"

I guess Linehan was his coach back then too..

As another poster said, Dak is the ultimate "business decision" QB..

Let me explain, it's 3rd and 12 in the 4th quarter...

Dak drops back and has Cooper 1 on 1 past the 1st down marker, and Zeke in the flat..

If he throws to Cooper, he may or may not complete the pass but if he does it's a 1st down..

If he throws to Zeke, he'll get tackled before the first down but Dak will have a high completion percentage..

We all know Dak will always choose the easy throw that makes him look accurate even if his offense struggles to convert third downs..

End of the game , his QBR and completion percentage are through the roof despite the fact that he threw for 150 yards and scored only one TD all game..

Prescott in a nut shell.

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Great Post.....Dak only cares for DAK!!!! He will use everything and everybody to keep this Job which he is so under qualified for.....his twitter account is basically there to sell him as the "Good Guy" and this impostor hopes the Jones family buys into all the hoopla.....just my opinion the FO no 1 task this off-season will be to give Dak major competition for the QB starting position.....even Jerry isn't that STUPID....:eek:

 

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Yah no matter the stat they will bring up linehan or Wentz lol
You forgot Romo and some obscure "agenda" for why people have varying degrees of dislike for Dak the football player. I think the funniest one is you don't like him as a person when how many people here have actually even met the man?
 

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Great Post.....Dak only cares for DAK!!!! He will use everything and everybody to keep this Job which he is so under qualified for.....his twitter account is basically there to sell him as the "Good Guy" and this impostor hopes the Jones family buys into all the hoopla.....just my opinion the FO no 1 task this off-season will be to give Dak major competition for the QB starting position.....even Jerry isn't that STUPID....:eek:




Yes sir!!
That also explains why Dak doesn't throw the ball away..

Throwaways would make his completion percentage drop while a sack gets blamed on the Offensive line...

I remember an interview Dak did his senior year in wich Dak said his coach (master of bus driving QBs) told him to only throw checkdowns in order to improve his completion percentage and draft stock.

Dak is not above stat padding.
 

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Yes sir!!
That also explains why Dak doesn't throw the ball away..

Throwaways would make his completion percentage drop while a sack gets blamed on the Offensive line...

I remember an interview Dak did his senior year in wich Dak said his coach (master of bus driving QBs) told him to only throw checkdowns in order to improve his completion percentage and draft stock.

Dak is not above stat padding.

Did he throw Dez under the bus....YES.....has he used his personal hardships publicly to the max YES....Does he take the safe bet road of throwing check-downs all game long YES....Did he sell out his old agent and move to the largest agency this year YES....Has he made millions with endorsements YES....Did he throw linehan under the bus last week about his non-Running YES......Guys this loser of a QB is milking the STAR and every single fan for his PERSONAL gain...YES!
Now you Dak lovers...go to 7/11 buy some Tostitos and Pepsi's and sit down and watch the most ANEMIC Cowboy Offense since Quincy Carter......

P.S. Buy some Red-Bull while your at it as our offense is so boring with check-down Dak you'll need it to stay awake....
 

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Did he throw Dez under the bus....YES.....has he used his personal hardships publicly to the max YES....Does he take the safe bet road of throwing check-downs all game long YES....Did he sell out his old agent and move to the largest agency this year YES....Has he made millions with endorsements YES....Did he throw linehan under the bus last week about his non-Running YES......Guys this loser of a QB is milking the STAR and every single fan for his PERSONAL gain...YES!
Now you Dak lovers...go to 7/11 buy some Tostitos and Pepsi's and sit down and watch the most ANEMIC Cowboy Offense since Quincy Carter......

P.S. Buy some Red-Bull while your at it as our offense is so boring with check-down Dak you'll need to stay awake....


And that's the part that gets me..

Romo, Witten, Dez, Beasley, Tyron Smith, and recently Aikman get torn down in order to prop up this JAG!!

Everybody sucks since he took over!!

WRs come here to die!

It's madness!!

What's worse is that this is a football team and the only reason Dink is starting is because of "non-football" reasons!!

People think it's hard watching this team now, wait till we lose our defense (for salary cap reasons) it will be worse than the Campo years...
 

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Unfortunately, nobody cares about yards per completion. It's yards per attempt that is the obvious important metric. If you had a QB that had a 50 yards completion but missed on his other 19 throws....so...1/20 for 50 yards. What's more relevant....50 yds/completion or 2.5 yds/attempt?

Anyhow 40/50 for 322 is 6.44 yards/attempt. If that were a full season Dak would rank 31st in the NFl ahead of only Josh Rosen and Josh Allen.

So no I can't live with 40/50 for 322. Because that'd be awful. just like 20 for 25 and 161 is bad.

And yet what do you think Prescott’s winning% is when he has a 70% completion percentage and no turnovers?
 

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And that's the part that gets me..

Romo, Witten, Dez, Beasley, Tyron Smith, and recently Aikman get torn down in order to prop up this JAG!!

Everybody sucks since he took over!!

WRs come here to die!

It's madness!!

What's worse is that this is a football team and the only reason Dink is starting is because of "non-football" reasons!!

People think it's hard watching this team now, wait till we lose our defense (for salary cap reasons) it will be worse than the Campo years...

Man I agree 100% watching our offense is like watching a video on Dental implants....zzzz...zzzz...zzzz...oh well let's hope Jerry still has some brain cells left ( J. walker Blue) come this off-season and makes some sort of move to upgrade at QB one can only hope......
 

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And that's the part that gets me..

Romo, Witten, Dez, Beasley, Tyron Smith, and recently Aikman get torn down in order to prop up this JAG!!

Everybody sucks since he took over!!

WRs come here to die!

It's madness!!

What's worse is that this is a football team and the only reason Dink is starting is because of "non-football" reasons!!

People think it's hard watching this team now, wait till we lose our defense (for salary cap reasons) it will be worse than the Campo years...
Dak is what he is, likely going to have to go with him and hope he improves
Hopefully the Jones pay him at a level that can keep the rest of the team together

Hope we don't get a espn ruling to have to give him blind acceptance, vrs present tolerance. as it seems his kool aid drinkers want to totally overlook his deficiencies and force his "greatness" upon us.
 

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We could both get out arbitrary answers to both and neither would know if it's correct.

What I will say is that the wins added with Dak in 2015 would far outweigh the wins lost in 2016 without Zeke. And McFadden was no slouch for us. Slightly upgrade from McFadden behind that Oline and we're cooking with oil in 2015.

People thinking that wins above replacement for RBs are anywhere close to WAR for QBs haven't studied the data at all.
Thanks for elaborating more on your point.

I’m very familiar with the concept of WAR (fmr. Baseball) but admittedly haven’t “studied the data” in this context...assuming you have?

Regardless of statistical norms, I’d still posit that Zeke has been much more influential to our W-L success in the last 3 years than Dak. Some actual data to support that would be our serious offensive regression without him for 6 games last year.

Statistical trends are often used for predictive analysis (i.e. draft the RB or QB in round 1, to which I’d agree with you); however, the context of our discussion is retroactive to which I still claim with confidence Zeke is more valuable to us, and has been, then Dak.

You said yourself that with an upgrade over DMC in 2015 that we’d be “cooking with oil”, and that’s exactly what we did in 2016 when we brought Zeke on.

Again, agreed that Dak is better than what we had in 2015, but he doesn’t upgrade the team to 7-8 wins that year playing with McFadden in the backfield.
 
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