The real reasons Dallas is so quick to extend Dak

[Rayman70]

I say he plays out his rook contract before thinking of extending him. Get him a qualified QB coach, OC and see what he does next season. No improvement? No extension.

would LOVE John Defilippo. That would be a major upgrade, a coup!! He is light years better than Moore.This game will come down to the coaches.

 

[gjkoeppen]

I meant those that can wait Dak is under contract though 2019 right no rush, Zeke has fifth yr option Amari has another yr.. im saying if they play hard ball we have the upper hand as theres no real rush to overpay these guys..they all want to reup after 3 yrs and thats just not plausible unless they are willing to give and meet the FO in the middle....

Actually you used the 5th year option when you were talking about Prescott. If you meant differently than you did a very poor job of wording it. I don't believe based on how you worded it that you weren't talking about Prescott. Elliott on the other hand is signed through 2019 and the Cowboys can use the 5th year option on him to have him locked up through 2020. Now if the Cowboys make it to the NFC championship game or all the way to the Super Bowl then the Cowboys don't have that great upper hand and then if Prescott plays a little hardball and doesn't resign and plays out that last year then the Cowboys may have to use the franchise tag and that will cost them probably more than if they had extended him after this season. The Commanders learn their lesson of waiting and then relying on the FT TWICE.
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[erod]

Here's the flaws with your reply. For Brett Favre (not Farve) both Mark Brunell drafted in the 5th round of Favre second season and Ty (not Koy) Detmer drafted in the 9th round just after the peckers gave up a 1st round pick to trade for Favre. Both were drafted to find his BACKUP, not as a possible replacement for Favre. The peckers gave up a 1st round pick for Favre and weren't going to throw in the towel after one season to find his replacement. Rogers was the only QB that the peckers drafted to groom as a possible replacement for Favre a couple years down the road when they thought he may retire which at that point Favre had been a starting QB for THIRTEEN seasons. Oh and Flynn was drafted AFTER Favre was no longer on the peckers so I don't know what he has to do with anything.

My response to the Cowboys drafting another QB in the 2019 draft to groom is valid because that person implied that this QB could then take over for Prescott and if the Cowboys were to waste a pick (they don't have a 1st) on another QB to groom after extending Prescott, that would put unnecessary extra pressure on Prescott to continue to progress having to constantly look over his should. Only Prescott haters would think this is smart thing to do, but from a strictly business stand point to extend Prescott and it would be for starting franchise type money and then draft a possible replacement is foolishness at it's highest form.
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If a starting QB can't handle competition on the roster, then they were a backup to begin with.

 

[blueblood70]

Actually you used the 5th year option when you were talking about Prescott. If you meant differently than you did a very poor job of wording it. I don't believe based on how you worded it that you weren't talking about Prescott. Elliott on the other hand is signed through 2019 and the Cowboys can use the 5th year option on him to have him locked up through 2020. Now if the Cowboys make it to the NFC championship game or all the way to the Super Bowl then the Cowboys don't have that great upper hand and then if Prescott plays a little hardball and doesn't resign and plays out that last year then the Cowboys may have to use the franchise tag and that will cost them probably more than if they had extended him after this season. The Commanders learn their lesson of waiting and then relying on the FT TWICE.
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really so the Commanders are regretting not keeping Cousin for 30mil? NFW brah Kirk was overpaid and we CANT do that with Dak..IMO they may need to handle Dak like Washington handled Kirk..Seriously whats the harm? if Dak grows and starts lighting it up, pay hi, KIRK never truly proved to Washington he could change, he was stat guy much like Romo but Romo got 19 not 30 even with inflation thats still not 30per..Kirk is so over paid and im betting the person having regrets at this money is MN, not Washington.. Alex was better deal..Daks should be closer to Alex smith as they are in the same tier..thats exactly what the FT is for..you have to be sure before you give player 25million per with guarantees.. I like dak but he is in the Bortles/Smith range and overpaying and doing so EARLY is bad business..keep feelings and emotions out of it FANS and Especially Jerry..

all im saying is way too many dallas players are up for contracts we also have like 19 FAs thats a lot of turnover that needs addressing, we still need a safety and TE , so there many other NOW decsions that have to be made before you go throwing unnecessary money at players who have a lot of contract time to go..

like I said IF the payers and their agents want to find some happy medium goiven they are asking for early extensions and make it team friendly , then do it, if they want to eb the highest paid players in the league, sorry I luv Dak and Zeke and hope Amari stays but not to hock our future and cap, we are just coming out of cap h e l l..no need to jump into it..

theres time dont outbid yourself...

 

[SackMaster]

I'm not sure when that draft board was leaked, but teams do what is called gamesmanship (otherwise known as lying) every year. I'm not saying that you didn't see A draft board, but but if it was leaked, I seriously doubt it was their real draft board. I remember seeing an interview with Mike Zimmer about a week or 2 before the draft and they flashed a draft board couple of times that turned out to be a completely fake board so the rest of the NFC North teams didn't know who they were really targeting in the draft. Again gamesmanship goes on every year.
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You could be completely correct, it may be a "fake" draft board.

But I give it SOME credibility considering who the Cowboys drafted when compared to where they Ranked on the Board Table a little further down the sites page.

From that Draft Board, fake or not, seems to be very inline to their actual draft that year.

So again, I'm not disputing that it may or may not be fake. But, if it was a fake, it sure seemed pretty accurate.

 

[gjkoeppen]

If a starting QB can't handle competition on the roster, then they were a backup to begin with.

If Prescott is extended and is getting just 18-20 mil a season which is pretty cheap for a starting QB, why as a team with their newly sign franchise or starting QB even think about bringing in another QB to groom and put that extra stress on their starting QB? They won't be able to cut Prescott because it will be to much dead money, so that only leaves Prescott haters that come up with gee if he can't handle competition he must be a backup anyways.
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[gjkoeppen]

You could be completely correct, it may be a "fake" draft board.

But I give it SOME credibility considering who the Cowboys drafted when compared to where they Ranked on the Board Table a little further down the sites page.

From that Draft Board, fake or not, seems to be very inline to their actual draft that year.

So again, I'm not disputing that it may or may not be fake. But, if it was a fake, it sure seemed pretty accurate.

I might be remembering wrong but if I'm right that draft board was definitely a fake. I believe the Cowboys were eyeing Bosa as their #1 pick and the chargers took him the pick before. If that is true and according to what you say the Cowboys had players ranked for the 1st round Bosa was ranked 4th. I remember seeing the Cowboys war room right after the chargers took Bosa and they first looked shocked and then were scrambling to figure out who they would take. As I remember they got their pick in just in time as to not slide down to the 5th pick. If Elliott was truly their first choice they would have sent their pick in a lot sooner.
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[SackMaster]

I might be remembering wrong but if I'm right that draft board was definitely a fake. I believe the Cowboys were eyeing Bosa as their #1 pick and the chargers took him the pick before. If that is true and according to what you say the Cowboys had players ranked for the 1st round Bosa was ranked 4th. I remember seeing the Cowboys war room right after the chargers took Bosa and they first looked shocked and then were scrambling to figure out who they would take. As I remember they got their pick in just in time as to not slide down to the 5th pick. If Elliott was truly their first choice they would have sent their pick in a lot sooner.
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That's cool.

Either way, via the Draft Board or your memory, Carson Wentz was never the guy Dallas wanted, which is the whole reason I brought up the leaked draft board up in the first place.

 

[gjkoeppen]

That's cool.

Either way, via the Draft Board or your memory, Carson Wentz was never the guy Dallas wanted, which is the whole reason I brought up the leaked draft board up in the first place.

I don't think he was but I also don't think the truth will ever come out. Since Wentz was the 2nd pick we'll never know for sure. Again I truly believe Bosa was who they were targeting and got shocked when the chargers took him 1 pick ahead of the Cowboys.
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[erod]

If Prescott is extended and is getting just 18-20 mil a season which is pretty cheap for a starting QB, why as a team with their newly sign franchise or starting QB even think about bringing in another QB to groom and put that extra stress on their starting QB? They won't be able to cut Prescott because it will be to much dead money, so that only leaves Prescott haters that come up with gee if he can't handle competition he must be a backup anyways.
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Whe did San Francisco bring in Steve Young?

Why did Seattle draft Russell Wilson after just paying Matt Flynn huge money?

Why did Baltimore draft Lamar Jackson will how much they owe Flacco?

Why did Kansas City draft Mahomes when they were paying big money to Alex Smith?

Why did Washington draft RG3 and Kirk Cousins the same year?

Why did New England draft Jimmy Garrapolo when they had Tom Brady?

Why did Dallas draft Danny White when they had Roger, or bring In Beurlein when they had Aikman?

Because you should ALWAYS be looking for and developing quarterbacks.

You're not doing well here.

 

[Hook'em#11]

would LOVE John Defilippo. That would be a major upgrade, a coup!! He is light years better than Moore.This game will come down to the coaches.

You could pick a few of our respected posters in this forum and they could do a better job than Moore, I bet.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Whe did San Francisco bring in Steve Young?

Why did Seattle draft Russell Wilson after just paying Matt Flynn huge money?

Why did Baltimore draft Lamar Jackson will how much they owe Flacco?

Why did Kansas City draft Mahomes when they were paying big money to Alex Smith?

Why did Washington draft RG3 and Kirk Cousins the same year?

Why did New England draft Jimmy Garrapolo when they had Tom Brady?

Why did Dallas draft Danny White when they had Roger, or bring In Beurlein when they had Aikman?

Because you should ALWAYS be looking for and developing quarterbacks.

You're not doing well here.

We'll take these in order. Flynn was signed to a 3 year deal for 20 mil or 6.3 mil a season and only 9 mil guaranteed. The shawks then drafted Wilson the same year and they competed for the starting job. Wilson won and Flynn lasted only that year and his contract wasn't prohibited to being cut. Neither were already the starting QB when they either got there - not even close to the same thing.

Lamar Jackson was drafted this season because the ravens weren't happy with Flacco's play in 2017. After drafting Jackson the ravens quietly tried shopping Flacco but got no takers. Again not even close to the situation here.

Mahomes was drafted in 2017 which was Smith's 13 season and that would be the time a team would start thinking about the future - again nowhere close to the situation in Dallas.

RG3 and Cousins were drafted the same year to compete for the starting job - that's not even remotely close to the situation here, it's not even close in another universe.

Jimmy Garrapolo was drafted in Brady's 18th season, and was drafted to be a backup and maybe someday the starter but then Brady made his statement that he was planning on playing 5 more years. Again nowhere close to the situation here.

Danny White was drafted in Roger's 8th season but you have to remember he started FOUR YEARS LATER than most QB's because of his naval commitment. If it was normal, that would have been Roger's 12 season and again that would be the time a team would be thinking of the future.. Nowhere close again.

Actually you are 0 - 6 on your examples of trying to justify bringing in another QB to compete against a QB that will be getting real starting money and no 1st round pick even if the Cowboys were foolish enough to even contemplate this for even a second.