Moore is possibly a good coach

[mmohican29]

Have you seen Andy Reid?
One of the top Offensive Minds over the last 20 years.

And can't win the big one either as of yet.

Exactly how loaded does a team have to be for this guy to win a ring?

 

[Idgit]

Dak’s actually supposed to be pretty good at the whiteboard. That’s why Garrett says they liked him so much, anyway.

 

[SSoup]

I do get the sense Moore has basically been a coach here since he got hurt before the 2016 season started. From the sounds of things, he was vital in helping coach up Dak going back to his rookie season. So he's basically put in 3 years (1 amazing, 1 quite good, and 1 lukewarm) as a position coach, despite the fact that he was doing the job before we even technically gave it to him.

That's actually the kind of aggressive promotion of young coaches that we've enviously watched other teams engage in. Hmm.

When McVay was hired as an NFL O.C., did his NFL job history look amazing? Nope.

He coached the Bucs receivers for one season in 2008. In Jon Gruden's stale offense. He coached Antonio Bryant and Ike Hilliard in a passing offense that basically shamed Jon Gruden out of coaching for a decade. La dee da.

He took a year off from the NFL then.

Then he came back to the NFL and was an assistant to the TE coach for the Commanders for one season. Chris Cooley, their TE at the time, was already a veteran finished product, so when he had a nice season, it was because Cooley was doing what he did. Not because of McVay's efforts as the assistant TE coach. If McVay was proving himself impressive in that job, it was behind the scenes.

He was then promoted from assistant TE coach to the actual TE coach. He did that for three years. Did he do amazing work with their TEs? Not particularly. Cooley quickly turned into useless garbage, but we'll blame age and injuries, not McVay. He got one good season out of Fred Davis his first year. Then his TEs were unproductive and bad for a whole season. And then he got one good half-season out of Jordan Reed in his last year as TE coach. And that was it for his 3 years as a TE coach. 1.5 good seasons over 3 years. Not sounding like the most promising up-and-comer at this point, huh?

And then he was handed the Offensive Coordinator job. Based on basically 3 or 4 underwhelming years as a position coach for stale offenses under stale head coaches (Jon Gruden and Mike Shanahan).

McVay's time as WR Coach in Tampa and TE Coach in Washington isn't any more fabulous than whatever work we've seen Moore do in coaching up Dak.

If you want "the next McVay" like people have clamored for, then you have to be willing to bravely promote a young offensive coach with a seemingly underwhelming and short job history... because that's how the actual McVay got his break too. But, no, everybody wants "the next McVay," a young coach... who magically has the job history of a proven coordinator in his 40's or 50's. It doesn't add up.

 

[Batman1980]

I'm just hoping if Moore becomes the OC that it finally gets that useless ginger clapper fired.

 

[beware_d-ware]

You're not going to find "the next McVay" on the open market. Teams don't let coaches that good go, and if they do, the coach has his choice of landing spots.

If you want your young, innnovative coach, you're going to have to take a chance on an unproven guy. SSoup's breakdown of Sean McVay's career prior to becoming an offensive coordinator was outstanding, and it should be added that he was only 27 when he got that OC gig.

 

[jrumann59]

I do not think it will be more. Why they could have given moore the job at the bye. The offense he knows is the one he has played with under linehan. So making him interim OC at the bye especially if they were not expecting much as has been reported. I think OC will be an outsider.

 

[Ebnorice]

Not necessarily true.

You sound confused.

actually I’m not. I think he could be a good coach. I just don’t know if he is the right fit for dak.

 

[Kaiser]

My point is I think kellan Could be a good coach. I just don’t think he is the right coach for Dak.

I disagree with this. If Kellen Moore is a good coach he will tailor the offense to the player. The other point is that Dak made the adjustment to the NFL better than any rookie QB in history, if he wasn't coachable or a student of the game he wouldn't have been able to do that. Jason Witten was always hard on rookies and he said Dak picked up the playbook extremely quickly.

 

[Batman1980]

I disagree with this. If Kellen Moore is a good coach he will tailor the offense to the player. The other point is that Dak made the adjustment to the NFL better than any rookie QB in history, if he wasn't coachable or a student of the game he wouldn't have been able to do that. Jason Witten was always hard on rookies and he said Dak picked up the playbook extremely quickly.

Dak's mum died while he was in college, that's the kind of thing that'll age up a rookie pretty fast.

 

[Kaiser]

Also I looked for the tweet but didn't find it, someone asked him about Romo coaching up Dak his rookie year. Broaddus FWIW said the stories about Romo were an urban legend and Kellen Moore was the one doing all the mentoring to Dak when he was a rookie.

 

[Beaker42]

The guy you want already has an OC job and is getting HC looks.

Who might that be?

 

[Philmonroe]

Moore was essentially a QB coach when he was a “backup” Qb.

Lets be real he wasn’t here to sling the rock around or at any point really step foot on the field at QB.

If he didn’t hurt himself the year he and tony got hurt he would of been surpassed by dak or a vet would of been brought in.


Dude is insanely football savey. He has the brain of a Payton Manning. (If you watched Boise state when he was qb) ice water vained like time brady) and a football body that couldn’t make a high school kicker envious.

I won’t love the hire. But it’s not because he is a potentially bad coach.

I won’t love the hire because Dak doesn’t have the mind of a Peyton Manning. He isn’t a statue like Tom brady.

Dak has the wheels of a cam newton. The body of a cam newton. Many similar strengths to a can newton. Dak a little smarter and much more tolerable personality wise imo. Where as cam can just huck it unlike I’ve ever seen.

My point is I think kellan Could be a good coach. I just don’t think he is the right coach for Dak.

This from a man who has been on the blue turf many many times. And has met kellan a few times.

Lets hope I’m wrong about him being just a good coach and he ends up being a incredible coach who can teach any type of QB and run a creative innovative offense like we had here at home.

Please football gods let him be the next Mcvay everyone is looking for.

I don't know if he'll be good or not but I'm willing to withhold critique until I see what he brings to the table. Its not the brand name coach most want but that doesn't mean it can't turn out good anyway. I'm willing to wait and see. I don't need to be the first to say he's trash if he is indeed that as the OC.

 

[Bohuntr97]

I disagree with this. If Kellen Moore is a good coach he will tailor the offense to the player. The other point is that Dak made the adjustment to the NFL better than any rookie QB in history, if he wasn't coachable or a student of the game he wouldn't have been able to do that. Jason Witten was always hard on rookies and he said Dak picked up the playbook extremely quickly.

That's what I'm hoping for. Let's give Moore a shot. He simply didn't have the physical talent to compete in the NFL. Yet apparently he has the smarts. We could use that because Linehan couldn't get it done. No need to pass three times inside the 3.

 

[cowboyjoe]

I would feel better if the Cowboys signed someone who had a track record of being a good innovative OC; instead we get a guy who has only one year of coaching at any level and we as fans have no idea what impact he had, and now he's a leading candidate for OC. I don't get it but I don't really know Kellen Moore and what he's thinking.

My point is this and think about it hard
We were losing bad at start of year right,
3-5 first 8 games, Moore was still same QB coach right & Dak was still missing throws etc
Where was Moore then, sure Dak wants Moore because Moore to me caters to Dak & isnt hard on him,
Reports I heard were that Jason Garrett got control back from Jerry Jones for offense
away from Linehan, and the TE coach Ne...... helped out to, wasnt Moore
Just think about it, Moore was QB coach those first 8 games, Dak was missing wide open
throws, throwing off his back foot, not setting his feet etc we all saw it, so what changed
those last 8 games?

 

[buybuydandavis]

I just don't know what would make Moore more qualified, which is why I'm asking - how many years does he need as a position coach before he become qualified?

How about more than 1?

 

[Bullflop]

I can't truthfully say I'm thrilled about welcoming Moore as a candidate for on-the-job training as our OC but this is how our front office operates. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean he'd be unable to be a good play caller, although his experience level suggests otherwise. The Cowboys' hierarchy has a habit of dancing to a different beat than other teams, though. I won't be surprised if that trend continues, although I'm hoping it doesn't. If he's truly the blossoming genius some folks think he is, perhaps we're about to find out, one way or the other. The chips will fall where they may.

 

[JW82]

And I am possibly going to hit the lottery.

 

[iceberg]

maybe he is. but as far as i know, no one is coming after him to coach their team.

if this happens, we'll have (2) former cowboy qb's of limited at best success now running the show.

why am i not all a giddy with glee?

 

[superonyx]

And can't win the big one either as of yet.

Exactly how loaded does a team have to be for this guy to win a ring?

What’s your relevance to Kellen Moore’s ability or inability to gameplan and coach an offense?

My Andy Reid point is clear. Big fat dude could never play QB or any position not on the line and yet he has half the nfl coaches being his former assistants.

 

[Cmac]

Possibly?......that should mean something.