Prescott and Cooper named to Pro Bowl

[DCowboyz]

What rankings were the Falcons defense and the Cowboys defense?

I will give you a clue - one of them was near the top 5 and the other was near the bottom 5...

Which is why I said this happened to Romo. He had a few seasons where he had the stats but our teams just sucked. Especially the defense. It happens. Everyone likes a winner.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Stats isn't everything. When comparing Matt Ryan to Dak. The Cowboys won more games, and you can't say Dak wasn't one of the reasons we went from 3-5 to 10-6, winning the division. I'm sure the league and players took notice.

We don't know that Matt Ryan wasn't called first, didn't have a trip to Tahiti (or a case of Drew Brees depression) and told the NFL to go away. I don't know that I've ever seen the alternate process completely described. I don't know why they would announce the alternates who didn't want to play.
All we do know is that none of the original 3 Pro Bowl selections for the NFC are going to play. We also know that Russell Wilson and Mitchell Trubisky (and possibly others) were called before Dak. We also know that Dak eventually accepted.

 

[Mr_Strol]

If true...this should be good...the salt level from the moronic Dak hater club is about to reach epic levels.

Mitchell Tribusky is a pro bowler as well. Is he good?

 

[G2]

How is it biased?

The irony is that it's the complete opposite!

Those claiming that Prescott should be in the Pro Bowl this season and/or are very happy about it are biased because unless you genuinely believe that he should be included over someone like Matt Ryan then he clearly should not be in the Pro Bowl this season based on his performances.

For the record, Dak Prescott deserved to be in the Pro Bowl in 2016, he had an excellent rookie season - even allowing for the incredibly offensive friendly team he found himself in, he fully deserved to be included.

My point is a very impartial and objective one in that his performances over the entirety of this season do not merit his inclusion in the Pro Bowl.

It's not hating or being anti-Prescott just conveying some objectivity which is sadly lacking on this forum!

Maybe you missed my "pretty fantasy football stats" point. I'll give you all the time to look that up.
I'm not a huge Prescott fan and think he needs to keep getting better, but I do think there's credence to what coaches and players think of other players.

 

[G2]

I am owning all of you Prescott lovers out there and you know it!

Do I need to provide anymore rebuttals...

This is a huge cry for help.

 

[DCowboyz]

We don't know that Matt Ryan wasn't called first, didn't have a trip to Tahiti (or a case of Drew Brees depression) and told the NFL to go away. I don't know that I've ever seen the alternate process completely described. I don't know why they would announce the alternates who didn't want to play.
All we do know is that none of the original 3 Pro Bowl selections for the NFC are going to play. We also know that Russell Wilson and Mitchell Trubisky (and possibly others) were called before Dak. We also know that Dak eventually accepted.

That makes no sense. Why would Matt Ryan decline a Pro Bowl invite? It's not the same thing as being picked and not going, ex; Drew Brees.

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Ok so based on the above logic why didn't Blake Bortles make the Pro Bowl last season ahead of Philip Rivers?

How many seasons has Blake Bortles, who the division and lead his team to the playoffs, besides last season? Has Blake Bortles consistently been able to be on any winning team? Dak has yet to have a losing season. Ryan has great stats, but is part of a Falcons team that constantly underachieves, even though they are most often among the media favorites to either make the playoffs, win the NFC South or be one of the best teams in the NFC. For having one of the highest paid QBs in the NFL.

You could honestly say that if Dak had all of the stats in the world, yet missed the playoffs or failed to win a Superbowl after a certain amount of time, that it would be used against him. Especially, if he was getting paid a ton of money.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

That makes no sense. Why would Matt Ryan decline a Pro Bowl invite? It's not the same thing as being picked and not going, ex; Drew Brees.

Seriously? People decline all the time. And how is it not the same thing as being picked and not going? Either way you don't want to go...

 

[Swagger]

How many seasons has Blake Bortles, who the division and lead his team to the playoffs, besides last season? Has Blake Bortles consistently been able to be on any winning team? Dak has yet to have a losing season. Ryan has great stats, but is part of a Falcons team that constantly underachieves, even though they are most often among the media favorites to either make the playoffs, win the NFC South or be one of the best teams in the NFC. For having one of the highest paid QBs in the NFL.

You could honestly say that if Dak had all of the stats in the world, yet missed the playoffs or failed to win a Superbowl after a certain amount of time, that it would be used against him. Especially, if he was getting paid a ton of money.

Is the Annual Pro Bowl a lifetime achievement award or is it based on a particular season not taking into account previous performances? If the latter then that's why Dak Prescott deserved to be in the 2016 Pro Bowl and not the 2018 Pro Bowl.

The Falcons did reach the Superbowl with Matt Ryan as Quarterback and would have won had they taken three knees and kicked a field goal late in the fourth quarter.

 

[DCowboyz]

Seriously? People decline all the time. And how is it not the same thing as being picked and not going? Either way you don't want to go...

I get it. The only difference is it wouldn't count as a Pro Bowl award if you were asked to go rather than being picked originally. That's what I'm trying to say.

 

[lk8701]

The amount of Cowboys fans being triggered by their QB making the pro bowl.

Contract negotiations. Dak definitely didn’t have a pro bowl caliber year.

 

[gjkoeppen]

In the NFC, the Cowboys currently lead all teams with six players on the roster—Ezekiel Elliott, Tyron Smith, Zack Martin, DeMarcus Lawrence, Leighton Vander Esch and Byron Jones.

We would have had 8 if Martin and smith didn’t decline. All that talent. Wooooooooh


Edit- yes I know it’s pretty much determined by fans. All pro is a way better but still

Yes most people think All Pro is a bigger award because there are less selected to those teams but lets look at something. The Pro Bowl does have 1/3 of the voting by fans but the other 2/3 is voted on by players and coaches who do have NFL experience. The All Pro teams are voted on by sportswriters who have had zero NFL experience. I've always said the 3 things that get voted on should be voted on by the same group. The Pro Bowl, All Pro and who gets into the HOF should all be voted on by the surviving HOF'ers who had great NFL careers and knows who are good and who isn't.
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[Super_Kazuya]

I get it. The only difference is it wouldn't count as a Pro Bowl award if you were asked to go rather than being picked originally. That's what I'm trying to say.

That's true, but actually it's also a part of the reason why players skip. The "alternate" Pro Bowl selection often doesn't count for contract negotiations, so there's no incentive for them to play and risk injury.

Heard that here (it's 3 years old, discussing why a then record 47 players skipped the Pro bowl)
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=14655417

 

[Runwildboys]

It's kind of funny to read some of these posts. Sounds like folks are actually twisted up and pissed that Prescott got selected. Sad, really.

But this isn't about pretty fantasy football statistics. It's about coaches, players and fans all having input on the votes. So, if Prescott got in, even as an alternate I'd say that's pretty cool that they think that highly on Prescott. And it shows how biased a handful of fans here are, but they're in the minority.

Maybe those people who voted just want to give our FO a reason to pay him a lot of money!

 

[HungryLion]

Contract negotiations. Dak definitely didn’t have a pro bowl caliber year.

Obviously a bunch of NFL players and coaches disagree with you about that.

I’ll say this. Dak did play terrible the early part of the season.

The second half of the season, he absolutely played at a pro bowl caliber level.

 

[Fletch]

Check mate!

 

[khiladi]

The Pro Bowl is basically voted by the fans and this is the advantage of being on the Dallas Cowboys and why Dak is so high in endorsement money and Jersey sales and would hope he doesn’t have to ‘test’ the market when he’s eligible for FA.

Andre Gurode, who couldn’t call OL plays from Center, made 5 pro-bowls as soon as Romo started for this team.

Goff would be playing before Dak and Goff sucks according to Dak homers, because he was one of the top 10 vote getters. Goff isn’t playing because he’s in the SB.

 

[TheCount]

There have been plenty bums that have come through Dallas and have lived comfortably on jerrys dime and emotions.

But in the end they are all the same, amounts to squat and wasted years!

And still, he wears the star and represents your team.

 

[SoupcanSam]

And still, he wears the star and represents your team.

Well I guess you gotta add him to the other stable of hypes!

 

[Coy]

Dak is an avg QB, if you look at it, him going to the pro bowl makes sense, he was the 7th NFC QB chosen, behind Brees, Goff, Rodgers, Trubisky, Wilson and Ryan, so after many of them declined then Dak was the choice.
So if you include the AFC, he would be right around 15th in the league.

Anyway, even though the pro bowl is a joke, good for Dak.