Don't expect a discount from Dak Prescott

[eastsideboy]

The interesting part is it has little to do with his ranking as a top QB. It is based on the needs of his team and they have 0 alternative and his agent knows it.

Ya know why Brady took less money to stay with the Pats? Because if he hadn't, Kraft would have let Belichick trade him. He's not stupid, he needs Belichick more than Belichick needs Brady.

0 alternatives lol that's what everyone says right before they get fired oh no my boss can't replace me and the next day you're in the unemployment line

 

[Redball Express]

It's clear from the article that he's gunning for the big money. I guess that I shouldn't be surprised, but I am.

From the article:

Prescott doesn’t see Patriots quarterback Tom Brady’s team-friendly deal, for which he made just $15 million last season, as a blueprint for his own.

“Nobody’s wife makes as much money as his wife does either,” Prescott said of Brady’s supermodel wife Gisele Bundchen, who earned $10 million in 2018 and $17.5 million in 2017, per reports. “When Tom Brady isn’t the breadwinner in the home, then that’s a great problem to have."

“So in that case, he can do that. He can do his contract however you want to do it.”

“I think the team knows how to pay what’s deserved,” Prescott told USA TODAY Sports before the Super Bowl, “and pay those other people at the same time what’s deserved without being frugal.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...s-dak-prescott-contract-extension/2806080002/

Why in the world would any of our Stars give us a hometown discount?

This team and owner are among the richest in the world.

Players who have played for this team are among the leaders of the NFL.

And some of the wealthiest.

Guys like Aikman, Jimster, Moose, Irvin, Wannstead, Norv Turner, and numerous others..

have had great carriers after they retired.

There is plenty of money and reasons to play in Dallas.

Discounts are not a problem.

These contracts coming up are going to be manipulated to death in order to win

Relax folks.

Like Rogers says..

Relax

We got this.

 

[HungryLion]

Ummmmmmmmm..what?

Based on what, he's worth more than Cousins? Lol

He is a better QB than Kirk Cousins.

 

[HungryLion]

I understand the concern some folks have about Dak. I really do.

I also think it’s a fair concern to worry about sinking too much cap space into a QB- any QB who isn’t named Brady, Brees or Rodgers.

All that being said. There are a few things we need to think about and take into account when it comes to whether it’s wise to extend Dak or not.

Extending Dak means yes, less cap space and less ability to retain other players.

However, the alternative to extending Dak is to let him go and then try and draft another QB. I say that because if you do get rid of Dak. You aren’t going to find a FA QB that is any good, without also paying them a lot of money. Because any FA QB who is as good as Dak or nearly as accomplished is also going to cost a lot of money.

So where does that leave you. It means you have to draft a QB. We all know that the chances of drafting a Good QB past the early first round, is pretty slim. USUALLY you have to spend a high pick on a QB.

So to get a high pick, you have to tank or just organically have a losing season. Even then to get an elite prospect you need to probably have a top 5 pick.

So you probably have to trade away a bunch of draft picks to move up and draft someone.

If you trade away multiple picks, you ALSO hurt the teams ability to put talent around the QB. Just as badly as you hurt the teams ability to acquire talent, from paying cap space for a QB.

So, either route likely negatively impacts the teams ability to put talent around the QB.

Now, let’s also be real and admit that most QB’s drafted, even early in the first round, don’t end up being as good a QB as Dak has been so far. That’s just the truth. So if you go that route. You may end up with a QB only as flawed as Dak is. You very well may end up with a QB who ISNT even as good as
Dak.

So that means you have to try again. Which means more losing seasons because your QB stinks and you need a high pick to draft another.

So again, I understand that people are worrried about the team overpaying Dak. And it’s a fair concern in some ways. I also hope he doesn’t get TOP QB dollar. Although I also think people who think he should sign for 15 million a year are kidding themselves.

But some of you who are just so open to cutting him, and saying the cowboys should just move on, let’s be real. Going that route has a LOT of risks too. And likely means a bunch of losing seasons, unless the team nails its first shot at drafting a QB. Which everyone knows is no guarantee because of how many highly drafted QB’s bust.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Ummmmmmmmm..what?

Based on what, he's worth more than Cousins? Lol

How is he not? Cousins was signed by MN explicitly to take them deeper in the playoffs and they missed it.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

Whoa, hold on...........Find me one first!

We tried, all we got was a 80 year old heiress.

 

[Hadenough]

Why in the world would Dak open up his big mouth about Bradys wife and what she makes thats really stupid. Maybe Jerry should say hey Dak youve been doing ok for 500K a year maybe we will give you a new contract for 1 mil a year. Thats double what your used to getting so you should be happy!

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

I understand the concern some folks have about Dak. I really do.

I also think it’s a fair concern to worry about sinking too much cap space into a QB- any QB who isn’t named Brady, Brees or Rodgers.

All that being said. There are a few things we need to think about and take into account when it comes to whether it’s wise to extend Dak or not.

Extending Dak means yes, less cap space and less ability to retain other players.

However, the alternative to extending Dak is to let him go and then try and draft another QB. I say that because if you do get rid of Dak. You aren’t going to find a FA QB that is any good, without also paying them a lot of money. Because any FA QB who is as good as Dak or nearly as accomplished is also going to cost a lot of money.

So where does that leave you. It means you have to draft a QB. We all know that the chances of drafting a Good QB past the early first round, is pretty slim. USUALLY you have to spend a high pick on a QB.

So to get a high pick, you have to tank or just organically have a losing season. Even then to get an elite prospect you need to probably have a top 5 pick.

So you probably have to trade away a bunch of draft picks to move up and draft someone.

If you trade away multiple picks, you ALSO hurt the teams ability to put talent around the QB. Just as badly as you hurt the teams ability to acquire talent, from paying cap space for a QB.

So, either route likely negatively impacts the teams ability to put talent around the QB.

Now, let’s also be real and admit that most QB’s drafted, even early in the first round, don’t end up being as good a QB as Dak has been so far. That’s just the truth. So if you go that route. You may end up with a QB only as flawed as Dak is. You very well may end up with a QB who ISNT even as good as
Dak.

So that means you have to try again. Which means more losing seasons because your QB stinks and you need a high pick to draft another.

So again, I understand that people are worrried about the team overpaying Dak. And it’s a fair concern in some ways. I also hope he doesn’t get TOP QB dollar. Although I also think people who think he should sign for 15 million a year are kidding themselves.

But some of you who are just so open to cutting him, and saying the cowboys should just move on, let’s be real. Going that route has a LOT of risks too. And likely means a bu
nch of losing seasons, unless the team nails its first shot at drafting a QB. Which everyone knows is no guarantee because of how many highly drafted QB’s bust.

i
I think Dak is close to his ceiling.

Having said that, you make a great argument and a well thought out post.

 

[Stash]

These are just words, much like Jerry's words about "Dak getting his contract". But if actions go the same route, and he and his agents try to play hardball and go for all they can get, I hope Jones and the Cowboys play hardball too. They have the leverage.

They can let him play out his contract and tag him in 2020 at a two year cost of about $33 million. That's far less than what the first two years of a new deal would cost.

It gives you two years to be sure he's the guy, or two years to find someone else. Don't give up that advantage by rushing to pay him huge money when you don't have to.

 

[Rayman70]

LOL.....the only thing he would get is bottom 5 QB money and if that? Dak is at best a bench player and if you think the Skins or the Jags are going to rush and sign him to a zillion dollar contract you will be unpleasantly surprised!
No way Jerry gives him a huge contract this off-season as there are other priorities and Dak simply hasn't proven he is the real deal at QB.......

totally disagree. You are way under estimating his worth. Don't kid yourself. If a team like the skins for example had a chance to not only get better,and stick it to Dallas, they would jump all over it. What? You think the skins or Jags like the QB's they have ?lol...Blakey Bortles and Colt McCoy are clip board holders,nothing more. Dak has proven he can win.

 

[Rayman70]

That’s the best approach unless we start all over with a rookie.

^^^^THAT^^^^

 

[Sandyf]

If anyone thinks the Cowboys aren't going to pony up for Dak then they are just delusional. More than likely the experts have got it right in that he probably gets a 7 year deal at $168 million or a 10 year deal at $215 million. Betting on the 7 year deal with $84 million guaranteed with something like bonus of $30 million at first and $24 million in year 4, then salaries of $5 million in year one, $5 million year 2, $10 million year 3, and $10 million year 4. Years 5, 6, 7 then have huge salary implication but cost to let go then goes way down.

 

[Rayman70]

How long have you been an NFL fan, like 2 weeks? Prescott was NFL offensive rookie of the year and this past season had a higher completion percentage than Brady, Rodgers, Big Ben, Mahomes, Wilson and Goff you don't think a team like the bills wouldn't be ecstatic to be able to sign Prescott if he were to became a free agent. Only someone who's only been an NFL fan for a couple weeks would think Prescott would never get a 2nd contract in the NFL.
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OR someone who blindly hates him...and the facts be damned. Facts are, he lived up to his rookie deal and much more. We never imagined in our wildest dreams Dak would become what he did so fast. Pay the man. AND HELL NO...whomever says "let him test the open market." is either a closet Dak hater or just uneducated. You and me both know what will happen if we allow that to happen. He aint comin back because he will have many high dollar offers. I can count at least 5 teams who would pony up the money to sign him.

 

[Rayman70]

Don't think John Elway up in Denver wouldn't be backing up the brinks truck to sign Dak either. He would be MAYBE one of the first teams going hard after him. We cannot let our young talented QB leave.

 

[blueblood70]

If anyone thinks the Cowboys aren't going to pony up for Dak then they are just delusional. More than likely the experts have got it right in that he probably gets a 7 year deal at $168 million or a 10 year deal at $215 million. Betting on the 7 year deal with $84 million guaranteed with something like bonus of $30 million at first and $24 million in year 4, then salaries of $5 million in year one, $5 million year 2, $10 million year 3, and $10 million year 4. Years 5, 6, 7 then have huge salary implication but cost to let go then goes way down.

well half will be right and half will be wrong, stay tuned but I dont believe hes getting that kind of money or guarantees..why because the same fans ie you types who believed Garett would get another 10yr extension after this run from 3-5 were wrong, the same thought theyd keep scott because they are all puppets, were wrong, and the Cowboys may be saying all the right things about Dak and his extensions and his future, they do have behind the scenes meetings that speak the truth to his worth.. they can look at Dak the same way they evaluating Garett IE the jury is still out and facts are hes been inconsistent for 18 months now AND STILL HAS ISSUES GETTING US IN THE ENDZONE AND FACT IS WE WERE BOTTOM 10 IN OFFENSE..

yes DAK finished strong and looked like2016 Dak at years end BUT they still see the same issues as garett and will make a business decision not an emotional one, those days are over since SJ and Mcclay have more of Jerrys ear and trust now..

he wont get a low ball offer but he wont be getting anything close to Cousins or Garoppolo IMO..like I said we have to just wait before we keep having all these ridiculous debates..

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Therein lies the dilemma.

Dak is a "good" QB, not a great one. Unless you think you can win a championship with a "good" QB, why would you pay him like a great one?

This, a BIG difference in good and great. Not many GREAT QB's in the league and can use one hand to count them.

 

[kevm3]

we luck out on not having to go through the qb drought after Romo and yet many here want to ship him away or pay him peanuts. The thought that Dak wouldn't find a second contract is laughable

 

[RoyTheHammer]

He is a better QB than Kirk Cousins.

Lol

 

[Rayman70]

we luck out on not having to go through the qb drought after Romo and yet many here want to ship him away or pay him peanuts. The thought that Dak wouldn't find a second contract is laughable

folks on here are unhinged about the hatred they have towards Dak. That's my theory. It goes back to this notion that Romo might walk back through those doors if Dak left. lol..Pretty delusional thinking. The pipe dream they have is that Dak sucks and cant garner any suitors, is comical as HELL. John Elway or Dan Snyder would be selling their left nut on the open market to have a chance at signing him. BIG MONEY TOO! You are dead right.

 

[HungryLion]

Lol

This past season:

Kirk Cousins: 70% completion percentage. 4298 yards. 30 TD. 10 Int. 7.1 yards per attempt. 99.7 QB rating.

Dak Prescott: 67.7% completion. 3885 yards 22 TD and 8 Int. 7.4 yards per attempt. 96.9 QB rating.

Add in Dak’s 305 rushing yards and 6 TD’s. Kirk only having 124 yards running and 1 TD.

Then add in the fact that Kirk was on a team just as good as Dak and DEFINITELY had better receivers the first half of the season.

We won’t even get into the fact that Kirk is a known choker. His team made the NFC championship game the year prior. Then he gets signed and they miss the playoffs.

Add that all up and Dak is at least as good as Kirk.

Now go look at the contract Kirk got.


Thanks for playing.