Don't expect a discount from Dak Prescott

TwentyOne

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Sam Bradford laughs at you.

Idc who laughs at me.

I am too old to spent time thinking about what people think about me.

But i get your point. There is always one stupid buyer in the world who will pay for crap. I just hope JJ isnt drunk again when he makes a decission regarding Duck.
 

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Let's be honest. Dak needs to improve and a lot of it will be on him with a first year signal caller. Dak needs to slide more in the pocket, run more when the lane is there and fumble less. Dak needs to make better choices when the deep option is there. Personally, I would give him a mid-range 2 year option with the understanding that a long-term deal will come if he plays well. Doesn't sound like he's amenable to that option, though.

No one in his right mind would be amenable to that option when any play on the field might be your last. There is literally not 1 player who would take that option and if you were in his shoes you wouldn't either.
 

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Let's be honest. Dak needs to improve and a lot of it will be on him with a first year signal caller.

Of course he needs to improve, every 3rd year QB does. But its laughable to call his mechanics, pocket awareness and accuracy "terrible".

They are inconsistent, but you will see that with plenty of other young QBs including Goff and Wentz. If he actually was "terrible", he wouldn't be on the field.
 

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No one in his right mind would be amenable to that option when any play on the field might be your last. There is literally not 1 player who would take that option and if you were in his shoes you wouldn't either.

True, but there is middle ground and I think that is where the contract ends up. Dak can get enough money upfront that he is set for life and has protection against a major injury, but the team can build in incentives so he has to earn his money. Even Tom Brady had incentives built into his last contract.
 

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Of course he needs to improve, every 3rd year QB does. But its laughable to call his mechanics, pocket awareness and accuracy "terrible".

They are inconsistent, but you will see that with plenty of other young QBs including Goff and Wentz. If he actually was "terrible", he wouldn't be on the field.

I don't think he's terrible, I think he needs to get better. I think he's a borderline franchise QB and we'd be very hard-pressed to replace him if he left.
 

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So his rookie year in 2016 featured "terrible footwork, pocket awareness, accuracy issues, holds the ball to long, and doesn't trust himself to throw the ball to the anticipated route"?

Or did he throw for 3667 yards and put up one of the best rookie seasons in history because he had a healthy Offensive Line?

Dak played behind one of the most dominate olines ever that year. So by your logic you want to pay a quarterback who has digressed over the past two years who has shown little improvement?
 

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Cousins is trash. Look at what he did in Minny. Dak may not be your cup of tea, and that's ok..but man...don't try to tellme Cousins is Steak when we all saw in 2018 he was pure boloney. You have your reasons for liking you some Cousins I guess. DAK just wins. Give me a winner anyday. lmao about "Dak doesn't sit at the same table" comment. You must have pulled that one outta your arse. No disrespect intended.Just trying to understand that.

Did you not read what i wrote. Cousins played behind one of the worst OL in football especially the interior. Had no support in the run game as they ranked almost dead last. Lost one of his best receivers half way through the year. Changed offensive coordinators at one point and still put up better numbers then dak

I'm not a fan of cousin as I feel he was overpaid however to claim dak is on par with his is down right lunacy

Let's give Cousins some time before we declare him a choker. Washington was trash and so was the entire offense for the vikings this year . Dak has played behind better teams thus far
 

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Dak played behind one of the most dominate olines ever that year. So by your logic you want to pay a quarterback who has digressed over the past two years who has shown little improvement?

No, my logic is that no QB is going is perform with the OL we had this year and even with inconsistent mechanics and a bad OL, Dak still took the team to a playoff win and a loss that was about the defense.

Fix the OL and you fix all these problems. Show me the QB worth paying that can win behind a horrible OL and I'll show you Russell Wilson, who isn't available.
 

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No, my logic is that no QB is going is perform with the OL we had this year and even with inconsistent mechanics and a bad OL, Dak still took the team to a playoff win and a loss that was about the defense.

Fix the OL and you fix all these problems. Show me the QB worth paying that can win behind a horrible OL and I'll show you Russell Wilson, who isn't available.

A-Rod says hold my beer
 

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No, my logic is that no QB is going is perform with the OL we had this year and even with inconsistent mechanics and a bad OL, Dak still took the team to a playoff win and a loss that was about the defense.

Fix the OL and you fix all these problems. Show me the QB worth paying that can win behind a horrible OL and I'll show you Russell Wilson, who isn't available.

You guys act like the cowboys OL was abysmal. They were average to good at best. A terrible OL is not going to generate the leagues rushing champion even with stacked boxes. Dak contributed to a lot of sacks.

If you read my posting history I feel we can win with dak if we bring in key pieces. Hes an above quarterback at best. To pay him elite money in insanity

Look at the other teams who have paid ridiculous money. Do we really want to repeat the same history?
 

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To pay him elite money in insanity

Can we wait to see what the contract is before we say its insane? IMO it will be a midpoint deal with a lot of incentives built in, elite money is around 30MM per season and I can't imagine that ends up happening.
 

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Possibly Cam Newton...and to a certain extent Russel Wilson...

But Colin Kaepernick definitely gave the 49ers a discount.
Not true Sevenup

  • Newton's 5 year, 104 million (2 mil ave) deal way back in 2015 was one the very highest in the league at the time
  • Wilson landed a 4 year, 87.5 mil, (21.75 ave) contract with an almost unprecedented 31 mil signing bonus back in 2015. Some now say he may become the 1st 35 mil/yr player.
  • Kaepernick got what was reported to be one of the largest contracts ever, but it required him to stay on the team. His whole situation was unique and hard to compare to others.
I think Dak will get his. But based on his current ranking, it might be middle of the pack NFL starter 2019 money range...so 20 mil/yr or so.
 
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Most QB's do not get into this discussion because it can be misconstrued and they can actually turn fans against them.
Fortunately for Dak, and any other QB, none of that matters. Jerry isn't using the fans feelings as the barometer for the contract. What will matter is his play on the field only. Talk away Dak. The Cowboys control when you stop taking by fixing your contract, not anti Dak biased fans.
 

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I wouldn’t expect a guy who has been massively underpaid to not try to get every dollar he can get, and rightfully so. My bigger concern would be that if they don’t pay him, I can’t really think of any reason why he shouldn’t hold out. I certainly would...
Because the Franchise Tag is there for a reason...and like others have said, he's a ***** for $$$, and not playing a year for ~$21M would be really, really stupid. Hopefully, the Cowboys will find a true franchise QB between now and Dak's second FT year.
 
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Fortunately for Dak, and any other QB, none of that matters. Jerry isn't using the fans feelings as the barometer for the contract. What will matter is his play on the field only. Talk away Dak. The Cowboys control when you stop taking by fixing your contract, not anti Dak biased fans.
Notice how no one has "liked" your comment?

Dak is NOT a franchise-level QB...and never will be, no matter how much they pay him.
 
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