Should QB's be limited how much they make?

[buybuydandavis]

That part is bogus. Athletes get taxed in the state they play in, not just the state they live in or are based out of. So they have to file and pay a separate state income tax for every state they play in which DOES have a state income tax. So if they're based in Texas, they get roughly 8-10 games per year with no income tax and 6-8 games per year with income tax. I'm sure their TurboTax/H&R Block fees are pretty expensive. Then again, their agent probably does it for them since they are generally lazy and sucky at math.

All that said, the feds/IRS should ban states from levying state income tax - the disparity is outrageous in what should be a unitary America.

We're a republic, not a unitary America. Having the States be different is a feature, not a bug.

As for the income tax, I didn't know that about taxes per game, but the advantage for being a Cowboy still applies. Cowboys have no income tax on their home games. Eyeballing it, only 5 teams can say that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_income_tax

 

[Doomsday]

When did it become so fashionable to decide how much some one is worth or what they can earn?

 

[conner01]

When did it become so fashionable to decide how much some one is worth or what they can earn?

Isn’t that exactly what the salary cap does

 

[buybuydandavis]

buy buy--- i was thinking same thing...of how to get by with cheaper QB's while increasing other strategies and parts of a team?

Tailor the offense to what cheap QBs can do. Give yourself extra chances to find and develop QBs. Actually let guys compete for the starting spot, instead of hitching your wagon to one guy.

Sounds like a running offense with a running QB. Maybe you can get a big arm. But you're probably going to have to give up accuracy and reading defenses. Then again, you can go shopping for Kurt Warners.

Also, get guys under contract and see what you can do to develop them. I thought Tebow would have been a perfect understudy to Tony for a few years. Maybe Tony could have fixed his throwing motion. He says he fixed his own.

 

[buybuydandavis]

Not to get off subject but several teams should sue Sam Bradford for the money he stole from them. Lol. Dude should be in prison for theft!

My hero.

 

[cern]

No, QB's should make as much as possible. Its like the debates that the Top 1% have too much wealth...Ridiculous.

It's not that they have the money, the problem is that they don't pay their fair share of taxes. And don't tell me about the new jobs they create in korea, malaysia, the dominican republic, etc.

 

[Doomsday]

Isn’t that exactly what the salary cap does

Actually no, it limits the total team spending, not how much a single player can make.

 

[Rockport]

Dear Fellow Fanzone Freaks--- I am so sick and tired of how much money QB's make in NFL compared

the rest of the players on a team...plus it cripples the team from being able to put quality players

at other positions....we have all heard the top 6 QB's who make the most money in NFL were not even

in the playoffs...i am so sick of it...the good teams have QB's that take less so other players can make

more and have a better team...i wish Dak would step up and say...i am only taking 15 mil a year cause

i want and need good players around me!!...but he wont...he will be a money grabber probably

what do you all think????..thanks for your views in advance

sincerely
GORICO

I think you have a great point. They do handle the ball the most and play, by far, the most important position but like you pointed out, it hamstrings the team salary cap wise.

 

[conner01]

Actually no, it limits the total team spending, not how much a single player can make.

But in effect it does limits to total amount availible to pay players. If there was no cap a QB would probably be getting 50 mil a year
I don’t want to cap salaries any different than now. I just want to cap the pct of the cap to any one player. In effect more players would make more money than now because the cap wouldn’t change so the money would be spread to more players rather than most going to a few players and most going to one
The QB salaries wreck teams so cap just what any one single can make as a pct of the cap and teams can keep their players much easier and more players get a bigger piece of the pie

 

[BigCatMonaco]

I don’t mind if a team wants to give garroppolo 30+ per year going forward. Less for them to spend to keep their other talent.

 

[Diehardblues]

If there’s a Cap on the total amount of the team then it appears reasonable to place Caps on positions.

 

[Diehardblues]

No player should allocate more than 10 percent of the cap each year. Problem solved!

Sounds reasonable

 

[BigCatMonaco]

If a team wants to give a Brady 100 mil a year and fill the roster with minimum level deals... who cares?

 

[millennial_legend]

We're a republic, not a unitary America. Having the States be different is a feature, not a bug.

As for the income tax, I didn't know that about taxes per game, but the advantage for being a Cowboy still applies. Cowboys have no income tax on their home games. Eyeballing it, only 5 teams can say that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_income_tax

I'm not saying it's a unitary America. I'm saying it SHOULD be. The 10th Amendment is cancer. So you don't end up with stupid crap like having to file in 7 different states because you're a pro athlete, or my mom not being able to teach outside of Texas because her teaching certificate is invalid outside of the state.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Dear Fellow Fanzone Freaks--- I am so sick and tired of how much money QB's make in NFL compared

the rest of the players on a team...plus it cripples the team from being able to put quality players

at other positions....we have all heard the top 6 QB's who make the most money in NFL were not even

in the playoffs...i am so sick of it...the good teams have QB's that take less so other players can make

more and have a better team...i wish Dak would step up and say...i am only taking 15 mil a year cause

i want and need good players around me!!...but he wont...he will be a money grabber probably

what do you all think????..thanks for your views in advance

sincerely
GORICO

You obviously missed that Prescott is quoted saying that his deal will be fair for everyone. That doesn't sound like he's going to try to hold up the Cowboys to a bank breaking contract that some users here think he's going to do. My guess and ity's just that, he'll sign for 17 - 20 mil a year and even at that it will be over 55 times more than what he made this past season which being a smart guy he can say that's a heck of a pay increase.
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[gjkoeppen]

If you are sick of how much QB's make.....blame the owners....blame the CBA. The league needs to increase the salary cap. They are making far too much to not increase that salary cap. Can't blame QB's...all they are doing is signing a contract. Who would turn down a Garapolo or Kirk Cousins contract?

And at the same token.....Dak makes less than a million a year. So you have no problem with those guys making pennies in comparison to other players but when its time for them to make money now its a problem?

Almost all businesses employee cost is the largest costs and that is true with the NFL. Most businesses employee costs run between 40% - 45%. As the TV revenue and merchandising grows each year SO DOES the cap. For you to say that the owners should give even more of the money it receives to the players is wrong. The owners are the ones that put up the capital to get each team so besides the players who get 48% of the money the owners have other costs to pay for like refs, all the people employed at the league offices, attorneys, the donations to charities and then each owner has his cost on the stadium they play in, the costs to pay for the charter flights to fly to games and hotels and buses to and from the games, their practice facilities, their own employees in their team offices, the coaches and probably a 100 other things. So after all the other costs they have after the player's cut, owners probably end up with only about 25% - 30% of the money far below the 48% the players get and you want the owners to give up more?
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[buybuydandavis]

I'm not saying it's a unitary America. I'm saying it SHOULD be. The 10th Amendment is cancer. So you don't end up with stupid crap like having to file in 7 different states because you're a pro athlete, or my mom not being able to teach outside of Texas because her teaching certificate is invalid outside of the state.

The filing in multiple states is just weird. Is this a new thing that all corps do? Go on a business trip, and you have to file income taxes in the state where you take the trip?

As for our relative preferences for a republic or a unitary state, I'll leave my rantings on that to twitter, if they ever cease my suspension.

#LearnToCode

 

[gjkoeppen]

i’d like to see a cap on the highest paid player on the team, and a floor for the lowest paid player on the team.

so, forget league minimum salary. you’d have a team minimum salary of, say, 1% of the annual cap.

and, you’d have a team maximum salary of, say, 12% of the cap.

how you manage everyone else in between is up to you.

the disparities between the top of the roster and the bottom of the roster would shrink a bit. quarterbacks and pass rushers would rake in slightly less, but the “cheap” players would earn more. given the short-term nature of the league, most players would fare better. and, because the difference between a veteran and a younger player wouldn’t be as pronounced, there would be less turnover.

First I'm TOTALLY opposed to a socialistic type league where the league sets limits on how much a player can make. We live in a free enterprise capitalism society. Right now the league minimum is based on vested years and that's how it should be so a player with 5 or 6 years in makes more than a rookie as it should be. Also there's a rookie wage scale that basically is the first player taken in the draft sets the top dollar and there's a formula that determines the most that can be offered and then all picks after the first pick's contract get smaller until the last player drafter makes the rookie minimum if he makes the team. The rookie salaries are slotted. The days of a rookie making a huge contract larger than many vets is gone.

Since the cap started it's been up to the teams to manage their money. Some have done better than others but no team had to start out with all the dead money the Cowboys had to and that's why it's taken until this past season for them to get out of cap he11.
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[Melonfeud]

Does everyone have a burner account here?

My past "benchings" point to the contrary

 

[Fizziksman]

I think with the ridiculous money QB's are making, there should be something like the Larry Bird rule. Maybe exempt QB's from the cap if you drafted and developed them?

honestly the Bird Rule should be in the NFL while the NBA needs a hard cap as well as taking away max contracts.