Let's say Tank is traded

[OmerV]

They had him in the building in 2014 and 2015 and he got suspended in 2016. In all, between suspensions and injuries he missed 9 games as a rookie, and 7 games in 2015. That was the issue - not his abilty to play, but his ability to be available and consistent. I can understand looking for consistency before paying a huge contract.

Just noticed a typo - the 7 games missed was in 2016, not 2015

 

[CouchCoach]

With Lawrence, the Cowboys ranked 16th in sacks, 26th in Int's and ranked 4th worst in completion % at 67.7%. How do you think this defense is going to look without him?

He is, by far, the best DL they have and they don't need to trade him, they need to get him more help in the middle. The problem, as we saw with Ware, is that when you don't give them help, they wear down. Parcells admitted he couldn't take Ware off the field because the OC would take advantage of that almost every time, such was the difference between Ware and his backup.

I had hoped that Charleton would step up and along with Gregory and Crawford, they wouldn't have to give Lawrence a fat contract but that's not happening and while we are really happy with our 2 LB's, think they're performance is not aided by the presence of Lawrence and his ability to play the pass and run equally well? That front 7 in a unit and he's the most important piece and it's not like the guy hasn't earned a fat contract.

They trade him, it better be for a DE as good or this isn't going to be pretty.

 

[glimmerman]

Or if Taco Charlton wasn't on his way to bust status. The fact that he looks like a complete miss makes keeping Lawrence mandatory at this point.

I was disappointed after this season. He has the build for it and flashes randomly. I think he had a attitude also, which he needs to lose.

 

[visionary]

Then the defense the Cowboys have finally built will collapse. That's what happens.

People are trying to cobble together a scenario where the team somehow gets sacks from Taco and Crawford. That's how's the level of desperation. Half of the mediocre sacks the team did get were not only from Lawrence, but because of him. He was the threat that demanded double and triple teams and freed up the others to have even the mediocre numbers they did.

Take him out of the equation and you have no pass rush once again and we're back to pining for a War Daddy. That we had and let get away.

This 'elite' defense that has taken Garrett 8 years to 'finally' build already collapsed in the most important game of the year against the Rams

This is not a great defense
D Law does not deserve 20 million+/ year. Great DEs don't disappear in December and January
Jones is not a great CB

 

[CouchCoach]

This 'elite' defense that has taken Garrett 8 years to 'finally' build already collapsed in the most important game of the year against the Rams

This is not a great defense
D Law does not deserve 20 million+/ year. Great DEs don't disappear in December and January
Jones is not a great CB

It is neither elite or great, even the best D in the league, CHI, isn't great or elite. But it is good enough, with help from the offense, to win a championship. They gave up 275 rush yards to LA and went into OT.

However, it is not a consistent D and they proved that in Indy.

I agree that he wasn't there when he was needed late in the season but according to some, that is injury related more than running out of gas. As to how much he deserves, that is more of a factor of how critical he is to the team and the comps within the league on DE salaries. But I do not think any DE deserves 20M a season but deserves has nothing to do with it.

If Trey Flowers, NE's best DL, wants 20M, he'll have to go elsewhere because Belichick isn't paying that. He will just do what he did when he knew Jones and Collins were going to want big money, trade them for a replacement.

 

[Stash]

I was disappointed after this season. He has the build for it and flashes randomly. I think he had a attitude also, which he needs to lose.

He may have height and weight measurables but that seems as far as it goes. Another Ryan Russell.

 

[Stash]

This 'elite' defense that has taken Garrett 8 years to 'finally' build already collapsed in the most important game of the year against the Rams

This is not a great defense
D Law does not deserve 20 million+/ year. Great DEs don't disappear in December and January
Jones is not a great CB

You're going to completely discount the labrum injury?

 

[Rockport]

What do you think the team will do in Tanks absence?

Options?

1. Play Gregory and Crawford at DE.
2. Play Gregory and Armstrong
3. Play Gregory and Taco.
4. Play Gregory and a free agent or draft pick.

While this may not sound appealing to some, Crawford isn't a bad DE, and you have to realize Tank took time to develop. There is a reasonable expectation that Armstrong or Taco may improve substantially this year.

I think Taco is weak as a pass rusher but is good at stopping the run. How much is the 5 or 6 sack difference worth?

Why would you trade a player the type of which the team has been chasing for years?

 

[Mr_437]

Taco is horrible.
Randy is good.
TCraw is barely average.
All of these guys equal no pass rush.
DLaw brings pressure on most pass rushes, which, can't be overlooked also. #90 is too valuable, they paid TFred, Zack, Tyron...Law is on the same level, Stephen need to stop BSing!

Trade this dude and DAL won't sniff the playoffs or even their new benchmark for success and NFC East title.

 

[visionary]

You're going to completely discount the labrum injury?

Then he's injured practically every year and cannot be counted on to play 16 games and ESP at the end of the year

He does not deserve to be paid like a top 5 DE no matter how you slice it

I would trade him for a rd 1 pick in a heartbeat

Having saud that, we will pay him and regret it

 

[northerncowboynation]

What do you think the team will do in Tanks absence?

Options?

1. Play Gregory and Crawford at DE.
2. Play Gregory and Armstrong
3. Play Gregory and Taco.
4. Play Gregory and a free agent or draft pick.

While this may not sound appealing to some, Crawford isn't a bad DE, and you have to realize Tank took time to develop. There is a reasonable expectation that Armstrong or Taco may improve substantially this year.

I think Taco is weak as a pass rusher but is good at stopping the run. How much is the 5 or 6 sack difference worth?

Depends on who we get in the trade.
Maybe we can draft another "war-daddy"

 

[visionary]

Why would you trade a player the type of which the team has been chasing for years?

We've been looking for a player who is constantly injured and disappears in December and January ?

 

[T-RO]

I agree. But we can't overpay and end up with another Dez.

Risk we gotta tank...er uh take

 

[Nightman]

Then the defense the Cowboys have finally built will collapse. That's what happens.

People are trying to cobble together a scenario where the team somehow gets sacks from Taco and Crawford. That's how's the level of desperation. Half of the mediocre sacks the team did get were not only from Lawrence, but because of him. He was the threat that demanded double and triple teams and freed up the others to have even the mediocre numbers they did.

Take him out of the equation and you have no pass rush once again and we're back to pining for a War Daddy. That we had and let get away.

DLaw already only goes against the RT

He is rarely Double Teamed...... TCrawford is as good against the run as SDE but pales as a finisher as a Pass Rusher.....

Losing DLaw would hurt but for 100m+ and a 1st round pick we would survive... we could sign BGraham or DFowler and Draft another DE AND sign EThomas

 

[Verdict]

The Cowboys were dumb not to get him extended before last season.

Maybe so. But the book has not been finished on that subject.

 

[Verdict]

Wait...

Isn’t it against the collective bargaining agreement rules to franchise a player just to trade him?
That a way of blocking a free agent from choosing his destination and getting what the open market will give him.

No. It's not. Lol

 

[Verdict]

Nice. I guess that means you are leaving some meat on the bone.

 

[Verdict]

Are they going to cure bipolar disorder while they're at it?

It may be easier to cure cancer than straighten out Irving.

 

[xwalker]

Wait...

Isn’t it against the collective bargaining agreement rules to franchise a player just to trade him?
That a way of blocking a free agent from choosing his destination and getting what the open market will give him.

Only if the team would not keep the player if the trade didn't happen.

The Cowboys would keep DLaw.

The Eagles would not keep Foles...

 

[Verdict]

Taco is horrible.
Randy is good.
TCraw is barely average.
All of these guys equal no pass rush.
DLaw brings pressure on most pass rushes, which, can't be overlooked also. #90 is too valuable, they paid TFred, Zack, Tyron...Law is on the same level, Stephen need to stop BSing!

Trade this dude and DAL won't sniff the playoffs or even their new benchmark for success and NFC East title.

Crawford isn't a pass rusher but he's solid at run defense. He would be an above average DE.