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I don't care what they spend/do. Just get us to the Superbowl. And win it! Tie with the PATS & Squealers. We need a new Lombardi to make the Egals hate us even more.
 
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stasheroo said:
That depends on what you categorize as "very good".

Certainly not a "very good" return on investment.
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If you think Crawford's ROI was bad just wait until you see what you get from Tank for $100 million.
 
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LatinMind said:
stop trying to compare dak to old qbs.
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That has nothing to do with the fact that the top quarterback salaries go up continuously. As the old saying goes, "a rising tide lifts all boats". As the top salaries rise, it pulls other "lesser" quarterback salaries up, too. Not to the levels of the "top" players, but certainly more every year. And Garrapolo signed a $27.5 mil average contract after only playing 23 games, he's hardly one of the "old qbs'.

You are missing my point - the question the Cowboys have to answer is do we sign him now in the hopes he will get better and thereby avoid the higher salaries later, or hold off and hope they can sign him for the same amount he's wanting now. Nothing to do with whether he's "worth" it or not, just noting the Cowboys have a tough decision to make...
 
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LACowboysFan1 said:
That has nothing to do with the fact that the top quarterback salaries go up continuously. As the old saying goes, "a rising tide lifts all boats". As the top salaries rise, it pulls other "lesser" quarterback salaries up, too. Not to the levels of the "top" players, but certainly more every year. And Garrapolo signed a $27.5 mil average contract after only playing 23 games, he's hardly one of the "old qbs'.

You are missing my point - the question the Cowboys have to answer is do we sign him now in the hopes he will get better and thereby avoid the higher salaries later, or hold off and hope they can sign him for the same amount he's wanting now. Nothing to do with whether he's "worth" it or not, just noting the Cowboys have a tough decision to make...
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Or this crazy notion of surrounding one of Tua or Fromm (I understand the cost of how it would require mortgaging multiple future high picks, probably even firsts)with an already established ready to win now roster and allow either to be carried much the same way the oline and Zeke carried Dak in 2016? That way youve got a young QB but with far superior natural passing ability and far higher ceiling/upside than Prescott possesses. On a rookie contract. Carried by an already established roster for his rookie year but with unlimited potential for the future.

Armchair GM and all, lol. Just another opinion.
 
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LACowboysFan1 said:
That has nothing to do with the fact that the top quarterback salaries go up continuously. As the old saying goes, "a rising tide lifts all boats". As the top salaries rise, it pulls other "lesser" quarterback salaries up, too. Not to the levels of the "top" players, but certainly more every year. And Garrapolo signed a $27.5 mil average contract after only playing 23 games, he's hardly one of the "old qbs'.

You are missing my point - the question the Cowboys have to answer is do we sign him now in the hopes he will get better and thereby avoid the higher salaries later, or hold off and hope they can sign him for the same amount he's wanting now. Nothing to do with whether he's "worth" it or not, just noting the Cowboys have a tough decision to make...
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Your point means nothing. Because Jerry Jones has already said they know he;s worth it. He's their QB. Just as Romo was his QB. BUt i also saw how they handled Romo and the team structured his deals where they were always able to reduce his money in any yr to be able to regain capspace. But still give Romo his money. Romo was never in the Top yearly caphits in hi career.

Man the niners basically gave garoppolo a 2 yr deal worth 56mil. They can get out of their deal with 4mil deal money after this yr. They had a ton of cap in 2018 so they gave him a 28mil roster bonus and a total cap hit of 37mil. so in 2020 garropolo will be restructured and extended to give him a lower caphit. some of you just see a number like 27mil avg and have absolutely no clue on the the contract itself.
 
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stasheroo said:
Already far more than the $50 million wasted on Crawford.
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It's too bad Crawford is a good player with a very bad contract. He's a steady, versatile, and reliable player that can start at any spot on the d-line.

The Cowboys overpaid him, and now the average fan thinks he's a scrub. Crawford is not a 10-12 sack a year player and he never will be. Fault the Cowboys for paying him like one.
 
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stasheroo said:
That depends on what you categorize as "very good".

Certainly not a "very good" return on investment.
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6mn for a flex DE / DT who gets the job done solidly? Not really looking to cut Crawford right now. Plus his cost goes down next year (last year of contract), and probable he can go a few more years on a cheaper deal... plus the cap keeps rising 10mn each year. 6mn against the current cap is not what it was just a few years ago (189mn projected for this year - vs 120mn in 2011).... a 57.5% increase.
 
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Cowboy Brian said:
6mn for a flex DE / DT who gets the job done solidly? Not really looking to cut Crawford right now.
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Gets what job "done solidly"? That of a rotational defensive lineman?

Plus his cost goes down next year (last year of contract), and probable he can go a few more years on a cheaper deal... plus the cap keeps rising 10mn each year. 6mn against the current cap is not what it was just a few years ago (189mn projected for this year - vs 120mn in 2011).... a 57.5% increase.
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If it's the "cheaper deal" you're referring to, I'm listening. If it's not, I'm not. He's been grossly overpaid for years to be a try hard, average player. Never lived up to the contract.
 
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LatinMind said:
Your point means nothing.
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Yes it does. If you can't or won't understand it, I can't help you. Not necessarily disagreeing with you about what Jerry "knows" he has, etc. but that has nothing to do with the fact that qb salaries have, and continue to, and probably will continue to go up, both the top salaries, the average and lower salaries. That's all.

You're adding things to my post that I'm not talking about...
 
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LACowboysFan1 said:
Yes it does. If you can't or won't understand it, I can't help you. Not necessarily disagreeing with you about what Jerry "knows" he has, etc. but that has nothing to do with the fact that qb salaries have, and continue to, and probably will continue to go up, both the top salaries, the average and lower salaries. That's all.

You're adding things to my post that I'm not talking about...
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Not totally sure but think your mainly referring to the standard market value of a starting QB salary in the NFL. Coupled with the annual rising salary cap there will be a baseline standard or average of what all the 32 starting QBs in the NFL make. And based on circumstance, rookie or second contract and beyond, along with previous performance will apply to how those specific parameters of said contracts are laid out.

Each individual contract has guarantees but is unique to itself in all the details.

Your point is that there is already a standardized market based on current starting QB salary with regards to the QB position in general and how the salary cap affects this postion's present and future earnings. At least that's what I think you're saying.

Your statement was a more generalized or broad term used in describing the fair market value of todays economy starting NFL QB contract with no correlation to all the different ways in which an individual contract can be written.

I believe that's what you were saying anyway.
 
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starcity214 said:
Only FOOLS think that a guy like Mark Sanchez (who was carried by an elite defense to two AFC Championship games) is better than a guy like Phillip Rivers..

Dak has had the best Cowboys teams in recent memory and it still wasn't enough. What makes you think that if a guy like Rodgers or Luck can't take mediocre rosters to a Super Bowl Dak will be able to do So?

It's pure madness!
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Call it faith, either way I'm willing to see where he takes us
 
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