Dak 20-25mil or Tyrod Taylor 12-15Million

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Cousins is a better QB than Dak....

yet he never wins, why is that

 

[CowboyRoy]

maybe you can blow off some of your hatred here: https://cowboyszone.com/threads/the-dak-prescott-mega-thread-merged.426211/page-8
or here: https://cowboyszone.com/threads/pff-ranks-daks-accuracy.428902/page-10

We're allowed to talk about anyone on the team, management, coaches, or players, but it seems you take it personally when I'm involved in Dak threads and make it real clear about the argument I'm presenting, usually with stats from various sources so that simple minds don't go into "limp mode". You said you were done and you keep it going. Oh noes, but I disagree on one specific topic/player so I'm the troll....

Only a troll would talk about moving on from dak.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I can’t shift an argument when there isn’t an argument.

You cut down our QB for having an “average” rating.
I simply mentioned that his rating mirrors Brady, Rogers, and Luck.
You couldn’t dispute a fact that made you uncomfortable so you tried the tired “how dare you” approach.

So what’s the argument?

You will whine for years when Dak gets paid. Every bad game will bring your whine back.
You look to have a crap ton of whining in your future.

You're a child.

Have a blessed day.

 

[Jake]

About a dozen pages of "it doesn't matter" because Jerry is gonna pay Dak whether we like it or not.

As a long-time fan of the team I hope it proves to be the right decision, but I'd be lying if I said I had no doubts about it.

 

[zenmastersauce]

Cousins is a better QB than Dak....

Does that statement so how mean something?

 

[JMech]

They let him go b/c they didn't want to pay him $10m during a rebuild, not because they didn't like him. I watch the Bills all the time - Tyrod, in that offense, has looked exactly like Dak did from the Atlanta game last year to the Tennessee game this year. They have the exact same strengths and exact same flaws. Put Dak in Buffalo and the production is exactly the same. Tyrod deserves a lot of credit for not completely imploding in that environment.

It's crazy to me how Dak gets a break because of the OL and WRs, but nobody wants to use that for Tyrod. The weapons in Buffalo have been abysmal. Dallas went into last season with Deonte Thompson as a 3/4 and he was trash...he was a #1 in Buffalo lol. Plus, everyone points to Dak as a winner...Tyrod got that Bills team to the playoffs and, in reality, they had 4-12 talent.

Wow. That is an interesting perspective on what happened in Buffalo. The same strengths and same flaws...........really? You watch the Bills all the time and you read the Buffalo newspapers and follow them closely? People were happy to see the door hit him on the way out.

Tyrod go them to a playoff?

 

[JMech]

You didn’t predict anything, troll. Go crawl back under your rock. Again, the statistics that Dak slobberers love say that Taylor and Dak are two peas in a pod. Dak is not a good QB at all and he would already be out of the league if he was drafted into any other situation.

Hey thanks for playing, but yes I did call that one. Not sure how many people you want to vouch for me.

Get over your hathred. Two peas in a pod? One can only say wow.

 

[JMech]

Absolutely not. Did you watch him in the 2017 Wild Card game against Jacksonville? I haven't seen many of him games, but I did watch that one and he was horrendous. He's a backup at best.

thanks for your support. At least one other person watched his stellar playoff game. Horrendous may actually be an understatement for that performance.

 

[Future]

Wow. That is an interesting perspective on what happened in Buffalo. The same strengths and same flaws...........really? You watch the Bills all the time and you read the Buffalo newspapers and follow them closely? People were happy to see the door hit him on the way out.

Tyrod go them to a playoff?

Yes - the same strenghts and flaws. Both are better when they break the pocket and use their legs, both have strong arms, but both lack vision and the ability to quickly dissect a defense from the pocket.

Fans were, the organization wasn't. They just had to move on from the cap hit.

They went to the playoffs and he was the quarterback. What is the question?

 

[JMech]

Yes - the same strenghts and flaws. Both are better when they break the pocket and use their legs, both have strong arms, but both lack vision and the ability to quickly dissect a defense from the pocket.

Fans were, the organization wasn't. They just had to move on from the cap hit.

They went to the playoffs and he was the quarterback. What is the question?

Yes, they went to the playoff game and if Tyrod had a role in getting them there it was because he drove the bus from the hotel to the game.

The organization moved on from him because they knew what they had and it was not good. He gave them another running back but they really needed a QB. His passing accuracy was in the bottom quartile of the league.....so yes not average, he was terrible. Cleveland confirmed that in short order if you watched their early games. I did because I was fascinated. Let's not be saying that his departure was all about a cap hit. If he offered them any hope they would have gladly paid it. They knew he did not and the Buffalo fans understand that as well. I live with them and in the midst of them.

 

[kskboys]

Yes - the same strenghts and flaws. Both are better when they break the pocket and use their legs, both have strong arms, but both lack vision and the ability to quickly dissect a defense from the pocket.

Fans were, the organization wasn't. They just had to move on from the cap hit.

They went to the playoffs and he was the quarterback. What is the question?

The question: How in hades can you not see that Tyrod is terrible and should not be a starter in the NFL and that Dak is on a different planet as a QB?

I take it you don't actually watch football. Highlights and stats alone will always lead you to flawed conclusions.

 

[Future]

The question: How in hades can you not see that Tyrod is terrible and should not be a starter in the NFL and that Dak is on a different planet as a QB?

I take it you don't actually watch football. Highlights and stats alone will always lead you to flawed conclusions.

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Put Dak in Buffalo and Cleveland and tell me how he does more than Tyrod has.

 

[Future]

Yes, they went to the playoff game and if Tyrod had a role in getting them there it was because he drove the bus from the hotel to the game.

The organization moved on from him because they knew what they had and it was not good. He gave them another running back but they really needed a QB. His passing accuracy was in the bottom quartile of the league.....so yes not average, he was terrible. Cleveland confirmed that in short order if you watched their early games. I did because I was fascinated. Let's not be saying that his departure was all about a cap hit. If he offered them any hope they would have gladly paid it. They knew he did not and the Buffalo fans understand that as well. I live with them and in the midst of them.

Bus driver...sounds familiar.

They moved on because he wasn't the type of player who can get them over the top. His accuracy is fine, as it relates to Dak. He throws one of the best deep balls in the game, he just hasn't had anybody to throw to. They let him go because they had to rebuild, and it made no sense to pay $10m, at an $18m cap hit with a $6m roster bonus, for a .500 quarterback. If he was on a rookie deal, he wouldn't have gone anywhere, because the organization liked him.
https://www.buffalorumblings.com/20...hts-on-tyrod-taylor-2018-starting-quarterback

I live in Rochester so it's not like you have greater perspective.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Don’t feed it

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[kskboys]

fart noises

Put Dak in Buffalo and Cleveland and tell me how he does more than Tyrod has.

Watch a football game. You can prolly get some old tapes of Tyrod. It's obvious you haven't watched him.

Dak is not great either at this point, but he's a passable passer. Average or slightly below. Tyrod is a terrible passer.

I don't know where you're getting your take on Tyrod, but you really need another source.

 

[JMech]

Bus driver...sounds familiar.

They moved on because he wasn't the type of player who can get them over the top. His accuracy is fine, as it relates to Dak. He throws one of the best deep balls in the game, he just hasn't had anybody to throw to. They let him go because they had to rebuild, and it made no sense to pay $10m, at an $18m cap hit with a $6m roster bonus, for a .500 quarterback. If he was on a rookie deal, he wouldn't have gone anywhere, because the organization liked him.
https://www.buffalorumblings.com/20...hts-on-tyrod-taylor-2018-starting-quarterback

I live in Rochester so it's not like you have greater perspective.

You don't follow the team obviously.

Best deep balls in the game? Where in the hell are you getting that? Best deep ball when the receiver was 10 yards away? Maybe.

They let him go because they knew what they had, nothing. They weren't going to build with him and they were certainly going anywhere with him.

Nice words by Beane and McDermott for a guy they were running out of town. Did you expect anything different?

 

[Future]

You don't follow the team obviously.

Best deep balls in the game? Where in the hell are you getting that? Best deep ball when the receiver was 10 yards away? Maybe.

They let him go because they knew what they had, nothing. They weren't going to build with him and they were certainly going anywhere with him.

Nice words by Beane and McDermott for a guy they were running out of town. Did you expect anything different?

Tyrod throws a great deep ball. He always has. Just Google it, there's 10,000 links. Here's a few:
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/fantasy-football-metrics-that-matter-deep-ball-qbs
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2777685-ranking-the-nfls-best-deep-passers#slide4
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21251222/the-great-debate-buffalo-bills-quarterback-tyrod-taylor

When he was successful in Buffalo, it was with his legs and then throwing deep, he never turned into a pocket passer b/c he couldn't consistently hit in the mid range from the pocket. Buffalo has always done the same dumb stuff with Tyrod that JG has done with Dallas. Take a playmaking QB who can be explosive down the field and then try to force him into being a timing/precision QB from the pocket. Plus, he's always had worse WRs and OL than Dak had even at the beginning of this year. Deonte Thompson was his #1 when they went to the playoffs....

He was the wrong price FOR a rebuild. If they had a competitive roster, they would have kept him, and they would have liked him as the vet (instead of McCarron), but he was too expensive.

People are also being too literal with the "same QB." Is he as good, no, but he could come in and run this offense and you wouldn't notice much of a difference between Tyrod and Dak. So, to my original point, if you can turn the ~$15m in savings into other impact players on offense, you might be better off.

 

[LovinItAll]

Just curious. If you were the GM, would anyone else consider Tyrod Taylor from the Browns if you could get him for 12-15 million per year? You could use the extra cap space to stack talent around him and load up of defense. Or, would you simply pay the cost for Dak? This is not a Dak bashing post. Just wondering what your thoughts are.

I wouldn't want Taylor as a backup for any price.

Dak will and should get paid. Anyone that thinks differently either doesn't understand the QB position or has issues that have nothing to do with football Period. The end. Full stop.

 

[Gameover]

fart noises

Put Dak in Buffalo and Cleveland and tell me how he does more than Tyrod has.

Put Tom Brady in those places and you tell me how many chips he has

 

[basel90]

Tyros is a bad QB . Dak is better but not worth more than 17-20 mil . But have a feeling cowboys will pay hi. 25+