Is Dak a so-called bus driver?

[pansophy]

15th in yards and 22nd on 3rd and long success. That is a bus driver.

He also has some high level skills, but that doesn't negate some of his throwing weaknesses.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I didn’t trash Cooper. The trade saved our season and possibly Daks career.

The bigger point is without elite talent surrounding Dak he plummeted.

Dak elevated Beasley’s production but not his talent level. Mainly because there wasn’t anyone else.

Now there wasn't anyone. Dez, Witten and Zeke.......i thought Dak stepped into the best spot ever for a QB


You can deny all you want but Dak has made players better.

 

[FTWayne]

yep they had to play better to carry him, I'll agree with that.

 

[RoboQB]

Since when is your definition the only one? If everyone is being honest, my definition is the most accurate for this team. Dak isn't a gunslinger like Romo, or a surgeon like Brees and Rodgers. He play's with heart and guts almost willing his team to win at times. He may depending on the weapons around him more than most QBs but that's the bus and there is nothing wrong with that. Winning with teamwork is still winning.

It's not my definition.
It's the definition.
You guys calling Brees and Manning bus drivers are making fools of yourselves.

 

[RoboQB]

Yeah I think Dilfer was worse than a bus driver. I think he was a below average qb.

No, you called Peyton Manning a bus driver.

I guess the kids don't know and the simpletons never heard of
Bill Parcells and his definition of the term "bus driver".

 

[Bullflop]

I've never seen Dak "driving a bus." I have seen him doing a good enough job to win an Eastern Division title, though and that's to his credit.

 

[northerncowboynation]

rusty won a superbowl and went to another and his headcoach screwed up with the play call.....

True that and they haven't been the same team since

 

[Diehardblues]

Now there wasn't anyone. Dez, Witten and Zeke.......i thought Dak stepped into the best spot ever for a QB


You can deny all you want but Dak has made players better.

You’re certainly entitled to your opinion. But I don’t believe most see Dak as elevating the play of those around him rather needing those around him to elevate his play.

 

[John813]

I've stayed away from most debates cause they feel stale, in regards to Dak.
The FO seems to love him, so to me it's a moot point on arguing if he's worth keeping.
I think he's more than a bus driver, but at times plays too conservative. I don't want him to be a gunslinger like Favre but at the same time I feel there are plays to be made, and aren't too risky but he doesn't trust something and either checks down or takes a sack(2018).

Hoping Moore can expand his game some more and design better routes than 4 guys running curl routes on 3rd and 8 lol.
I like the guy and his story. Hope he works out and continues to improve.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

True that and they haven't been the same team since

outside of New England that defy all kinds of odds of success but then again they have Brady and Bilicheck.....the window of opportunity for any team is but a couple of years before FA, retirement and everything else catches up with them. there is no denying that despite all the player losses and lack of talent, Rusty (lol) has kept that team competitive.

 

[northerncowboynation]

How do you define "bus driver". I think most would say it's a player who rarely ever carries the team with his arm and relies more on safe passes and a running game to gain yardage and score points.

However, if one followed that by saying that defines Troy Aikman, they likely would backpedal. The reality is, Troy never had a 20 TD season, and he averaged less than 200 yards per game over his career (199.6).

So, that leaves the question of whether there are assets aside from passing stats that can elevate a player above "bus driver" status.

With Aikman, most would point to his leadership, and his demand for excellence and precision and hard work and dedication. He was the man in control and that directed the offense on the field. Dak seems to have some of that, but I can't say it's enough to put him in the same category with Aikman. Dak does put up better passing stats though, and has a better QB rating.

So where does that leave us? For me, I would say Dak is more than a bus driver. What I don't yet know is how far he can take us given the current team, including coaching and players.

Aikman had this ability to turn it up a notch in the playoffs. He hated losing. He may have driven the bus a few times but he drove it right up to the SB three times.

I think Dak is more than a bus driver too. certainly look forward to him proving it. I'm convinced there are fans on here that have been Dakophobes so long that even a SB win will cause misery. It's tough to devote 9 years to any one QB without winning it all for the team and fans

 

[northerncowboynation]

outside of New England that defy all kinds of odds of success but then again they have Brady and Bilicheck.....the window of opportunity for any team is but a couple of years before FA, retirement and everything else catches up with them. there is no denying that despite all the player losses and lack of talent, Rusty (lol) has kept that team competitive.

And that's good enough right, being competitive? I doubt many would agree that being competitive is enough. Hence the "Dak is a bus driver" debate. Are we competitive, damn straight! Do we enjoy it, hell no!

 

[Captain-Crash]

I think they are fans on here are daknut huggers who will not admit that he was just a passenger on the bus when he wins nothing and they find out he was just average to below. Average with a super bowl team around him. Sorry he's no Trent Dilfer, he just a passenger on the bus.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

And that's good enough right, being competitive? I doubt many would agree that being competitive is enough. Hence the "Dak is a bus driver" debate. Are we competitive, damn straight! Do we enjoy it, hell no!

but good ones like Wilson can get over the hump and go to a couple of superbowls...Matt Ryan got his team to the superbowl. we are competitive. we have a lot of the pieces. we just have to get over the hump.

 

[Londonboy]

If You zoom in tight on My Avatar, You'll see Dak trying to remember to drive on the left.

 

[G2]

Thanks

TE definitely wasn’t Elite. Agreed. But once we acquired Cooper our WR uplifted our offense and Dak enough to be considered Elite. And while our OL dropped off from it’s All World status from 2016 we still had 2 Pro Bowlers last year.

Even when we had arguably the greater supporting cast in 2016, the end results in playoffs weren’t any better. What would our offense be without league leading rusher and a WR1. We’ve already seen. I’m not sure why I need to ask. And why Id continue to ask. How much Elite talent will it take around him to take the next step? Or is this as good as it gets?

You're conveniently leaving out the reason this team hasn't been able to go further in the post season. Defense. The only elite player on a consistent basis on offense is Elliott.

 

[G2]

Yea that was one of the dumbest posts ive ever read on this board. Thats saying a lot when there are a ton of people on here that think Dak is a top 8 QB.

Not suprising tho coming from that poster

Did you see his SB game in Denver? He was par at best. Manning was hot garbage. He was carried. He wasn't even a bus driver, he was a passenger.

 

[Diehardblues]

You're conveniently leaving out the reason this team hasn't been able to go further in the post season. Defense. The only elite player on a consistent basis on offense is Elliott.

I’m not sure how you can leave out our 2 Pro Bowlers on OL even if they aren’t at All World level of 2016. And our defense was top 10 last year. Our weakest link was passing offense ranked 22nd with a 14th ranked QB.

Spin it how you wish but those are the facts.

 

[Diehardblues]

Did you see his SB game in Denver? He was par at best. Manning was hot garbage. He was carried. He wasn't even a bus driver, he was a passenger.

Brady looked like garbage in SB last year until the game was on the line then he illustrated why he’s the most clutch QB in NFL history.

No doubt Peyton wasn’t himself that season in Denver but his experience and key plays in certain situations helped them. Yes, their defense carried them. And many QB’s could have won with that defense but they hadn’t until Manning.

 

[Diehardblues]

For the sake of argument how are we feeling this year if we don’t go out and get Cooper and finish the season like with 6 or 7 wins missing the playoffs for second consecutive season?

Because that’s who we are without elite talent surrounding our QB. And are we wanting to sign Dak to a 100 million contract? Would we be sold he’s our guy? Just saying ... but that’s how fragile our situation is. And why I’m not as sold on this kid as some are.