Is Dak the best Cowboys draft pick in the last 20 years?

[Techsass]

Wow. Martin? Witten? Frederick? Really?

Only 6 players in Dallas Cowboys' entire history have made 4 all-pros in a 5 year span:

Chuck Howley
Emmitt Smith
Randy White
Bob Lilly
___________
Larry Allen

I guess leaving for Denver tarnishes some folks view of him.

 

[Captain-Crash]

The best backup quarterback who gets to ride America's teams' bus. What overly conservative quarterback couldn't do what he's done.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Zack Martin a future HOFer so no. So is Jason Witten and possibly Tyron Smith.

"possibly Tyron Smith"

Yikes.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

The OP’s thread/question only pertains to draft picks selected in the last 20yrs.

Give it a minute....

 

[Diehardblues]

There's some kind of troll buried in here, being as how this is from the mind of the CowboyRoyTroll, but...

Dak was a good pick, but remove the fluke rookie year and he's performed about what you'd expect if you throw a dink and dunk QB on to a running team with a good OL. Lots of QBs from Nowhere U could be a bottom third QB with those conditions.

Travis Frederick was not widely viewed to be a first round pick so in my mind the Cowboys actually having the nerve to take him there in addition to being incredibly correct about it makes him the best pick in my eyes.

Yea, this site has a few trolls.

I’m trying to think who’s been a better 4th round pick this era? But that wasn’t his question.

 

[kskboys]

Best pick? I'm not sure. He's in the conversation with guys like Tyron, Fred, Martin, Zeke. He is a QB so that certainly elevates his value tremendously.
He's absolutely the biggest draft steal in the last 20 years though.

Way too soon to declare that.

Marquez Colston, 7th
Tony Romo, UFA
Jammal Charles, 3rd
Kyle Williams, 5th
Julian Edelmann, 7th
Donald Penn, UFA
Domata Peko, 4th
AJ Bouye, UFA
Malik Jackson, 5th
Aerean Foster, UFA
Antonio Brown, 6th

 

[ghst187]

Room was better, a PRo Bowl QB as a UDFA. Unreal.
Dak was a great pick based on production vs drafted spot.
He keeps improving and wins a ring, yes he could be one of our greatest draft picks since Staubach in the 19th round.

 

[kskboys]

Oh, crapp, Cowboys draft pick.

Let me think.

 

[kskboys]

Jay Ratliff, 7th
Hitchens, 4th
Bradie James, 4th
Patrick Crayton, 7th

 

[CowboyRoy]

Value wise? He’s up there. A franchise quarterback with a late 4th?

No question about it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Room was better, a PRo Bowl QB as a UDFA. Unreal.
Dak was a great pick based on production vs drafted spot.
He keeps improving and wins a ring, yes he could be one of our greatest draft picks since Staubach in the 19th round.

If your going back that far, then Staubach takes the cake.

Romo up there as well, however he wasn't drafted.

 

[Proof]

Hard to argue Dak because of the value even if my gut tells me different.

 

[ghst187]

If your going back that far, then Staubach takes the cake.

Romo up there as well, however he wasn't drafted.

Romo drafted’ish, part of that draft class I technically.
Finding a star QB anywhere past the first round is always a coup and although we’ve hit big on a lot of late round players, a QB will always be the most impressive because it’s the hardest.

 

[pansophy]

Based on draft position and qb, those other guys are behind.

I'll always say that a HOF'er is a better pick regardless of round. It's still 50/50 for a first rounder to make it in the league let alone have a HOF career. That puts Ware ahead of Dak on value in my book, and I personally would put Martin and Tyron in that category too as of right now.

Witten was picked in the 3rd so hard to make an argument for Dak over Witten from a skill or value perspective. Given that Zeke has been the league's leading rusher for two of his 3 years there is an argument to be made that he has been better value than Dak despite being picked in the 1st round versus 4th. Where would Dak be without a top running attack?

Ratliff played very well for a long while being picked in the 7th, so case could be made for Ratliff. Quincy Carter was a good pick, at least IMO, but Dak surpasses him on ability and round. Maybe Flozell and Greg Ellis.

Hard to judge Dak's true value without seeing the end result. If he remains a mid-tier passer who never wins a super bowl than his value will diminish over time, and if he turns the corner as a passer and/or wins a super bowl it will increase a lot. We'll just have to see...

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'll always say that a HOF'er is a better pick regardless of round. It's still 50/50 for a first rounder to make it in the league let alone have a HOF career. That puts Ware ahead of Dak on value in my book, and I personally would put Martin and Tyron in that category too as of right now.

Witten was picked in the 3rd so hard to make an argument for Dak over Witten from a skill or value perspective. Given that Zeke has been the league's leading rusher for two of his 3 years there is an argument to be made that he has been better value than Dak despite being picked in the 1st round versus 4th. Where would Dak be without a top running attack?

Ratliff played very well for a long while being picked in the 7th, so case could be made for Ratliff. Quincy Carter was a good pick, at least IMO, but Dak surpasses him on ability and round. Maybe Flozell and Greg Ellis.

Hard to judge Dak's true value without seeing the end result. If he remains a mid-tier passer who never wins a super bowl than his value will diminish over time, and if he turns the corner as a passer and/or wins a super bowl it will increase a lot. We'll just have to see...

Quincy Carter was a good pick?

Try as you might, Dak's first 3 years has made a mockery out of you haters. But as you finally just admitted, 3rd year QB's still can get better.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

Way too soon to declare that.

Marquez Colston, 7th
Tony Romo, UFA
Jammal Charles, 3rd
Kyle Williams, 5th
Julian Edelmann, 7th
Donald Penn, UFA
Domata Peko, 4th
AJ Bouye, UFA
Malik Jackson, 5th
Aerean Foster, UFA
Antonio Brown, 6th

Ksk, Roy is talking about Cowboys draft picks in the last two decades. So I don't think UDFAs & other team's picks factor into the discussion.
You brought up some good ones, though.
Looking strictly at Draft picks for the Boys, I actually forgot about Witten.
He's absolutely in the top two.
I just think if Dak is (at the very least) a top 15-ish QB, solid- to good QB - a fourth round pick at that - that's saved the franchise from QB hell (like the between Aikman and Romo days), his value pretty much has to trump any other pick.
Is he the best player drafted since 1999? No. But even a solid QB is hard to find and likely saved the team from rivaling the ineptness of the Cleveland Browns.
BTW, I think it's laughable that some people think anybody could have had success the last few years with Zeke. Of course Dak leans on Zeke considerably, but without a QB you got nothing (your words, actually! ), and Dak plays a significant part in this team's success.

 

[JayFord]

Quincy Carter was a good pick?

Try as you might, Dak's first 3 years has made a mockery out of you haters. But as you finally just admitted, 3rd year QB's still can get better.

I actually loved Quincey carter....almost cried when he was cut

 

[kskboys]

I'll always say that a HOF'er is a better pick regardless of round. It's still 50/50 for a first rounder to make it in the league let alone have a HOF career. That puts Ware ahead of Dak on value in my book, and I personally would put Martin and Tyron in that category too as of right now.

Witten was picked in the 3rd so hard to make an argument for Dak over Witten from a skill or value perspective. Given that Zeke has been the league's leading rusher for two of his 3 years there is an argument to be made that he has been better value than Dak despite being picked in the 1st round versus 4th. Where would Dak be without a top running attack?

Ratliff played very well for a long while being picked in the 7th, so case could be made for Ratliff. Quincy Carter was a good pick, at least IMO, but Dak surpasses him on ability and round. Maybe Flozell and Greg Ellis.

Hard to judge Dak's true value without seeing the end result. If he remains a mid-tier passer who never wins a super bowl than his value will diminish over time, and if he turns the corner as a passer and/or wins a super bowl it will increase a lot. We'll just have to see...

Quincy was rated as a 4th round talent, and his best year was 17 TD's and 22 INT's. We took him in the 2nd. How was he a good pick?

 

[armadillooutlaw]

Quincy was rated as a 4th round talent, and his best year was 17 TD's and 22 INT's. We took him in the 2nd. How was he a good pick?

Yeah, he wasn't good.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I actually loved Quincey carter....almost cried when he was cut

You must be an Eagles fan then. I laughed and jumped for joy. Probably the same thing I will do the day Garrett is finally fired.