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I train with a two times Super Bowl running back. Does that mean I know what I'm talkin about . doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talkin about . I'm a football player type guy. not a money player. This is about opinions. And nobody's wrong. If you stated a fact . that's when you better get it right. Because Cowboy fans know their football. When it comes to factual statements

Well nobody can have a right of wrong opinion. I'm just saying they lack what they need to be informed. And no you training with a former running back doesn't help you be more informed about some guy you never met is going to perform.
 

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You think this coaching staff deserves that kind of respect? I like Richard but the rest of them have a dubious record. I am a Marinelli supporter but we must agree that his reputation was built coaching a defense that had 3 HOFers, one at every level. Plus Rice was a great player too. We will have to agree to disagree on Heath. I am just an armchair coach but have been a fan for almost 40 years. I watched a ton of Cowboys football and I have always thought Heath was a terrible S. Has some value as a bench guy and special teamer but no way a S. His play vs the Rams was a disgrace.

As for Hill I hear you. I am not freaking out like others. I think he may be sneaky good. Trading down 5-10 picks could have still landed him and got you another 3 or 4. Not going crazy about though.
We don't get that penalty call against the Packers Jeff heat intercepts that ball will you very well may win that game. You have to have football players on your team and that's what Jeff is. Starter know but rotational absolutely. Just my opinion and I've been watching as long as you have maybe more. I'll take a team of football players old day day-long rather than money Players
 

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Well nobody can have a right of wrong opinion. I'm just saying they lack what they need to be informed. And no you training with a former running back doesn't help you be more informed about some guy you never met is going to perform.
I was basically with you. And you are correct just because I trained with the football player doesn't mean I understand everything. Like I said it's only opinions until you state factual
 

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thats great..... I graded him........... bahahahahahahhahahahahahahhahaahahha

I wonder how many hours of film study our Cowboys Zone Draft Experts watch preparing for the draft?

Or how many one on one interviews with a prospect. Or conversations with their college coaches. Or watch film if their practices, that by the way isn’t available on YouTube.

Just saying.
 

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I knew nothing about Hill. But I loved the quote bull in a china shop I understand he's a football player. And I'm old school and I hope he just turns out to be that I know the response wasn't towards be just giving my opinion if he's anything like the first-round linebacker last season I'm all in. I don't care where anyone was drafted in this draft Pick 3 Seasons to figure out the culture he'll bring to the locker room that Talent. He'll bring to the field. You just don't know. What motivates a player
Man, I love the enthusiasm and I hope you're right We need it!
 

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Or how many one on one interviews with a prospect. Or conversations with their college coaches. Or watch film if their practices, that by the way isn’t available on YouTube.

Just saying.

If you put that in a jury trial, exhibit would be the time Risen Star said Anthony Hitchens was a bad pick because he had "personally scouted him".

Its always funny when fans think five minutes on Youtube is the same as the professionals spending years evaluating a player.
 

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Or how many one on one interviews with a prospect. Or conversations with their college coaches. Or watch film if their practices, that by the way isn’t available on YouTube.

Just saying.
That's why I like William McClay. I don't think Jerry has those College contacts he once had. You can't look at film a half dozen plays. My Philosophy is most worthy I'm old school football. I don't draft for need I don't draft best available. I love with the Raiders did a culture football player pic. For me it's character Talent. I believe that's what the Patriots do. They find average football players and teach them how to be play as one and be great. Just do your job is more than a cliche. Go Cowboys
 

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Man, I love the enthusiasm and I hope you're right We need it!
I've been asking for a defensive tackle for three or four seasons now. I truly believe if you can't get pressure up the middle you cannot win in this league. Look what the Patriots did destroyed Mahomes up the middle. If your quarterback steps up your Edge rushers just can't get there. Again how many times going to tell go Cowboys I have neuropathy from the military my fingers sting I use speaking text and sometimes my words get gobbled I apologize LOL
 

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The difference is that we absolutely have eight years of tape on that guy so any opinions offered in him has much more substance.
I don't like or dislike Jason I know what the alternative can be I seen Sean Payton screw-up last season in the playoffs Bill Belichick three seasons ago blue the AFC Championship game he went for it on 4th down three times. Only had to do was kick field goals and they win. But it's easy to sit back and critique.
 

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I knew nothing about Hill. But I loved the quote bull in a china shop I understand he's a football player. And I'm old school and I hope he just turns out to be that I know the response wasn't towards be just giving my opinion if he's anything like the first-round linebacker last season I'm all in. I don't care where anyone was drafted in this draft Pick 3 Seasons to figure out the culture he'll bring to the locker room that Talent. He'll bring to the field. You just don't know. What motivates a player
I haven’t seen anything that says he compares to LVE in any way. LVE was a great teammate and a play making machine in college. This guy was benched, wasn’t productive and spent most of his career in the coaches dog house.
 

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We don't get that penalty call against the Packers Jeff heat intercepts that ball will you very well may win that game. You have to have football players on your team and that's what Jeff is. Starter know but rotational absolutely. Just my opinion and I've been watching as long as you have maybe more. I'll take a team of football players old day day-long rather than money Players

A team of a Jeff Heaths will get you 2 wins a year.
 

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I haven’t seen anything that says he compares to LVE in any way. LVE was a great teammate and a play making machine in college. This guy was benched, wasn’t productive and spent most of his career in the coaches dog house.
And you haven't read anything that says he isn't like him either. The guy was benched because he had a new system coach. And that doesn't mean anything either. I think he's a bull in a china shop just like they said and if he can get destructed up the middle I love it
 

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Yeah. Good football players. Mrs Heath don’t you have something better to do?
I like Jeff I don't think he's a starter I think he's a good rotational player. you can't win in this league without players like him. And that is a fact. Salary-cap dictates that. Not everybody can be a money player . Fact we don't get a penalty for 12 men in the Huddle he intercepts Aaron Rodgers and we very possibly go on to win that game
 

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And you haven't read anything that says he isn't like him either. The guy was benched because he had a new system coach. And that doesn't mean anything either. I think he's a bull in a china shop just like they said and if he can get destructed up the middle I love it
I have read where he wasn’t anything like LVE. Check out the story about his attitude after the season where he broke normal player protocol and refused to thank or acknowledge his coaches.

He didn’t perform for the previous 2 seasons where he did start. So where is the evidence that he is anything like LVE? Anything?
 
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