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Take a good look at this team's player personnel overall compared to the rest of the league. They're as good, if not better than virtually every team out there, top to bottom. That's the "broken clock" being right, and doing a good job.

The roster has no depth. The hallmark of the Jerry 'socks to jocks' era is top heavy rosters with no depth. If we actually win something, we can circle back to your point. But as of right now, its premature. Jerry as a GM has been a laughing stock and punchline for the rest of the league. Our NFC East foes hope he lives forever.
 

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we have good depth at DLINE and oline. That's really the most important...the big uglies. My next worry is we have no plan behind Dak. We lack that 1 dude that can come in and win 2 games in a pinch. All our eggs are in the Dak basket. We better hope he doesn't go down for an extended time.
 

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Wha? Jason in the same category as coaches who've won multiple super bowls? Thats a joke.

What the heck successes are you talking about? This team hasn't advanced past a divisional playoff game since 96'. Nobody in Big D gets credit for anything until they actually win something.
I’m talking about the influences in building a better team and personnel decisions.

I’m not placing him in same category otherwise. But we are seeing a better culture and personnel decisions than with the other puppets.
 

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Dayam Rocky, no wonder you're an optimist. You don't have to play that "could always be worse" card, you've seen worse first hand.
 

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The problem with Booger is being GM is a hobby, he only wants to do the fun stuff. The heavy lifting isn't fun and there's no spotlight for watching film on prospects.

But for a part-timer, he's not the worst GM in the game and he has learned to change his circle of influence. I honestly think the harping on him as the GM is more habit now because he did change and he did improve. He's just one of this guys that needs to make a mistake more than once to recognize it as a mistake so as not to repeat it. He discovered that giving up two 1sts for a WR was a mistake and gave up just one for this last WR and voila.
 

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we have good depth at DLINE and oline. That's really the most important...the big uglies. My next worry is we have no plan behind Dak. We lack that 1 dude that can come in and win 2 games in a pinch. All our eggs are in the Dak basket. We better hope he doesn't go down for an extended time.
true on depth. that discussion is better left until the picks have been made for the final 53. but trenches look solid. rb could be best in a few years. seem to have a plethora of wr's. te's, who knows. same for safety.
 
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The roster has no depth. The hallmark of the Jerry 'socks to jocks' era is top heavy rosters with no depth.

Show me better. I'm open to anyone making their case on it.

If we actually win something, we can circle back to your point. But as of right now, its premature. Jerry as a GM has been a laughing stock and punchline for the rest of the league. Our NFC East foes hope he lives forever.

It's not because of his drafts and personnel moves, it's because of the coaches he's chosen and chosen to stick with.
 

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The roster has no depth. The hallmark of the Jerry 'socks to jocks' era is top heavy rosters with no depth. If we actually win something, we can circle back to your point. But as of right now, its premature. Jerry as a GM has been a laughing stock and punchline for the rest of the league. Our NFC East foes hope he lives forever.

No depth? We have depth at the oline and dline, Sean Lee will have a hard time getting on the field, we have 4 corners who can play and a strong wr corp. We also just drafted two rbs, they are rookies of course, but you have to start somewhere.

Where are we really lacking? I know safety is a weakness but it's an exaggeration to speak of our lack of depth at this point.
 

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No depth? We have depth at the oline and dline, Sean Lee will have a hard time getting on the field, we have 4 corners who can play and a strong wr corp. We also just drafted two rbs, they are rookies of course, but you have to start somewhere.

Where are we really lacking? I know safety is a weakness but it's an exaggeration to speak of our lack of depth at this point.

I agree about safety being a weakness, but other than that? Backup quarterback, but then again, how many teams aren't weak there? In fact, how many don't even have a decent starter?
 

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The problem with Booger is being GM is a hobby, he only wants to do the fun stuff. The heavy lifting isn't fun and there's no spotlight for watching film on prospects.

But for a part-timer, he's not the worst GM in the game and he has learned to change his circle of influence. I honestly think the harping on him as the GM is more habit now because he did change and he did improve. He's just one of this guys that needs to make a mistake more than once to recognize it as a mistake so as not to repeat it. He discovered that giving up two 1sts for a WR was a mistake and gave up just one for this last WR and voila.
not all the points of light we see in the night sky are individual stars. some are entire galaxies. but they're far away. took the light a long time to reach us. just as it's taken jerry a long time to see the light.
 
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No depth? We have depth at the oline and dline, Sean Lee will have a hard time getting on the field, we have 4 corners who can play and a strong wr corp. We also just drafted two rbs, they are rookies of course, but you have to start somewhere.

Where are we really lacking? I know safety is a weakness but it's an exaggeration to speak of our lack of depth at this point.
DL is an uncertainty after losing Irving and Gregory plus not knowing when Lawrence will be 100% after surgery.

TE isn’t solidified with the return of Witten. And losing one of Daks favorite targets with Beasley can hopefully be filled with Cobb if he can stay healthy. But still an unknown.

And will Freddy be back at full strength? And will we make any other moves on OL.

There still much to be concerned about if you really want to dig deeper.
 

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not all the points of light we see in the night sky are individual stars. some are entire galaxies. but they're far away. took the light a long time to reach us. just as it's taken jerry a long time to see the light.
Well, there have to be consequences to change behavior and the man came off three 5-11 seasons in a row and got a new stadium deal done just by making one change few thought he could make.

The problem really isn't Booger, it was that turnaround when he bought the team, it's not supposed to be that easy and no one builds a dynasty from a 1-15 disaster. It was too easy and didn't require a lot of discipline, sacrifice or time. It took him a long time to understand just how hard it is and that he needed better advice.

But the biggest problem with this was revealed by him when Hansen asked him why he didn't hire a GM and continues to act in that role. His response was that a GM would not be willing to take the risks he's willing to take and would be concerned about his job. And therein, my friend, lies the crux of the matter. That is exactly who should have been making those decisions, someone with something to lose.
 

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not all the points of light we see in the night sky are individual stars. some are entire galaxies. but they're far away. took the light a long time to reach us. just as it's taken jerry a long time to see the light.
Jerry has seen the light. Saw it very early in his career. He just didn’t like sharing the light unless it was shining more on him.
 

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Well, there have to be consequences to change behavior and the man came off three 5-11 seasons in a row and got a new stadium deal done just by making one change few thought he could make.

The problem really isn't Booger, it was that turnaround when he bought the team, it's not supposed to be that easy and no one builds a dynasty from a 1-15 disaster. It was too easy and didn't require a lot of discipline, sacrifice or time. It took him a long time to understand just how hard it is and that he needed better advice.

But the biggest problem with this was revealed by him when Hansen asked him why he didn't hire a GM and continues to act in that role. His response was that a GM would not be willing to take the risks he's willing to take and would be concerned about his job. And therein, my friend, lies the crux of the matter. That is exactly who should have been making those decisions, someone with something to lose.
Your on fire today Coach !

And why he went to such lengths with his revolutionary financial contributions because the only consequence that would have stopped “ jock to socks” control would have been a financial fallout.

When results on the field stopped deterring the bottom line like it did in the 80’s, there was no stopping him. Once that new stadium was built...Game over as you so eloquently put years ago.
 
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To the delusional cheerleaders who like to pretend Jerry is a passive figurehead and his chubby son and the great Will McClay actually run this team, tune into the 13:55 mark of this video and observe. Ignore the fact Stephen can't even answer a phone correctly.

Stephen works the phone like a good secretary. He can't say yes or no to these offers. He's not the decision maker.

"Umm...let me call you back. I have to ask Dad."

He presents the trade offers to his Daddy. The real boss. The head coach seems open to one of the trade proposals but gets immediately shut down.

Then Stephen mentioned he'd be willing to go down 3 spots for a pick.

Not happening, as the REAL decision maker in Dallas, Till. Death. Do. They. Part., has made his decision.

"Let's keep Connor McGovern."

And so it is done. (Shout out to Will McClay, who is strangely absent in this.)

Now this isn't news to anyone reasonable, I know. I'm talking to our less fortunate right now. Those loving in their alternate reality because the real world offends their fandom.

So, to those bros.... Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss.


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"I am not going anywhere" Bro's...
 

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DL is an uncertainty after losing Irving and Gregory plus not knowing when Lawrence will be 100% after surgery.

TE isn’t solidified with the return of Witten. And losing one of Daks favorite targets with Beasley can hopefully be filled with Cobb if he can stay healthy. But still an unknown.

And will Freddy be back at full strength? And will we make any other moves on OL.

There still much to be concerned about if you really want to dig deeper.

We added Quin and a second round pick at DL. We also added a talented rookie at OL plus we have Looney returning. At WR not only did we add Cobb, but Gallup will have another year of experience which could be huge. Obviously we have questions as does every other team, but to say we lack depth at this point is an exaggeration. If all of our worse case scenarios play out then yes we will be lacking, just like ever other NFL team in the salary cap era.
 
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So, its not the players with the drafting being so awesome. We can't complain about Jerry. Stephen is doing a great job, and you've made it very clear over the years that its not Garret's fault either. So to what would you attribute 23 years of futility and counting? Is there a water boy you begrudge?

It’s always the players. Drafting and development has been good, which is why the team has been relatively successful. VFA has been weak. We’re not losing in the playoffs to teams with inferior rosters.

And I never said we can’t complain about Jerry. Jerry hurts the team a lot of ways. Just not in any way by anything demonstrated in this clip here that started the thread.
 

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Well, there have to be consequences to change behavior and the man came off three 5-11 seasons in a row and got a new stadium deal done just by making one change few thought he could make.

The problem really isn't Booger, it was that turnaround when he bought the team, it's not supposed to be that easy and no one builds a dynasty from a 1-15 disaster. It was too easy and didn't require a lot of discipline, sacrifice or time. It took him a long time to understand just how hard it is and that he needed better advice.

But the biggest problem with this was revealed by him when Hansen asked him why he didn't hire a GM and continues to act in that role. His response was that a GM would not be willing to take the risks he's willing to take and would be concerned about his job. And therein, my friend, lies the crux of the matter. That is exactly who should have been making those decisions, someone with something to lose.
Jerry loves the spotlight. He's been a poor GM. He's turning the reins over to Stephen. And things are getting better as a result. It's as easy as that. Just a shame it took so long. I think after the mess with jimmy, jerry felt he could only trust family. Ergo the nepotism.
 
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