Twitter: What Zeke feels about Moore as OC

cern

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Moore is the biggest question mark for the 2019 Dallas Cowboys. There is just simply no way anyone outside the organization can have a good read on whether putting him in charge of the offense will make the front office look like geniuses or bums.
This is true, but the fo seems to think he's made of the right stuff.
 

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That the FO would think he's made of the right stuff runs counter to the fact that they clearly were looking at other options for the better part of 3 weeks before, it seems, they had no other options... so, if they think that, it's by default.
 

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That the FO would think he's made of the right stuff runs counter to the fact that they clearly were looking at other options for the better part of 3 weeks before, it seems, they had no other options... so, if they think that, it's by default.
That's not my interpretation of events.
 

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Hopefully he's smart enough not to listen to the receivers because they're "always open".
Every receiver, every single time.

A few years ago I made a cut up of one of our WRs who was giving our QB and staff a hard time during games (more so than the typical WR). I asked our film guy to follow the action after the play. I ended up with about 20 clips of him dogging it, missing blocks, running sloppy routes, and then after plays he would throw his hands up, get in the QB's face, or best yet, sprint over to the sideline (much faster than the supposed route he just "ran") to complain about being open. It was overkill on my part, but it sent a message to the WR room, and he stopped all of the drama.

Then next season came and a new batch of diva WRs behaved the same way.

You're not open every play. Cut it out.
 

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Actually, this hasn't been discussed here as far as I know. Does anyone think Linehan gets another NFL job on any level? Beasley, don't get me started.

Jolly good repartise about Liney.
Yet, despite your pessimism about tha bloke, Linehan will be a coach again for Auburn, Florida or Ariz. State.
But maybe, also, NFL variations of such in New York, Arizona or Raiders.
He will want for naught, thank you. o_O
 

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That's not my interpretation of events.

One can feel good about Kellen Moore w/o denying the obvious.

Moore was not their first choice, or he would have been named OC almost immediately after Linehan was let go. That much is obvious.

They were holding out for someone, and likely someones, plural.
 

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KM will listen to the players. Oh great, now the lunatics will be running the asylum. :eek: I'm in, just as long as it's entertaining.
 

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People are going to hate this, but to me he’s Jason Garrett 2.0.

- Son of a coach who has lived his life around the game
- Former college great and career NFL backup quarterback with a great mind but without the physical talent to succeed

I bet that if you went back to 2005, you’d find many of the same things being written about KM were written about Garrett. He was also supposed to be a brilliant mind and an innovator.

For all of our sakes, I hope that this time they’re right.
 

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People that say "Garrett's Offense" don't even know what it means.

They could hire Joe Montana as the OC and he could basically make it a West Coast offense using the "Garrett Playbook" by always calling the plays that have horizontal routes.

The Ghost of Al Davis could come in and make it a Raiders Offense by only calling the plays with go-routes.

It is the plays that are practiced the week of the game and then called by the OC that determine to focus of the offense.

Obviously new variations are always added but the OC is what determines the offense, not the playbook.

It's as-if fans think the Walah/Montana West Coast playbook had zero go routes in it or that Zone Blocking teams burn all the pages that have man blocking plays.

Moore can put in any play he wants using the same base playbook. If he wants to install a play where all receivers just run in a circle, he can do that on a Tuesday and call it on Sunday.

Moore can even draw up a play during the time while the Cowboys defense is on the field. He can have Frederick play WR, Zeke play QB and Tavon Austin block as a TE.

The playbook is not like evidence in a trial that has to be submitted to the court ahead of time. As long as the play is within the NFL rules (Frederick would have to report eligible), he can make it up at any time.

Lmao! Great post!

You got me wanting to see Zeke throw a WR screen to Frederick... lol.

The "circles" play has me thinking of some pee wee league teams I've seen years ago... lol.
 

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This is true, but the fo seems to think he's made of the right stuff.

The same FO that thought that Scott Linehan, bill Callahan, Jason Garrett, and Bruce Coslett were "made of the right stuff"? That FO?

Thx for the reminder
 

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Maybe it's just me reading something into Zeke's comments, but when he says "He'll listen to us. What we see on the field, he'll listen and incorporate it in the gameplan.'"

That sure implies that the previous offensive coordinator didn't. And that's exactly what it looked like and you had to feel that the players were frustrated as a result but simply tried to take the high road in the name of team unity. And now the shackles are off.
 

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Beasley said the offense would be different last year too.

Now he’s in Buffalo and Linehan is who knows where.

Nowhere.

Linehan is nowhere.

Somehow that self-professed genius is out of work.
 

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Putting a green horn OC under a HC in his contract year is just a recipe for failure.

Linehan was a surrogate for Garrett's ideology. That is why he lasted so long. Callahan, not so much.
Keeping in mind, it was Linehan who sold Jerry/Jason on bringing Kellen Moore here from Scott’s previous team (Detroit) as a backup QB in the first place.

Giving KM a shot at QB coach was a small gamble; letting him have the keys to the entire offense is old-school Jerry Jones at his wildcatting best.
 
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