If Dak has a All-Pro year, would you trust him?

[PAPPYDOG]

Yeah, Prescott played well. The LA game was on the defense.

How did our offense do in the 1st Half?
7 pts hmmmm ya Dak was killing once again as Zeke was being 8 man boxed....

 

[Doomsday101]

Lets not be dense here. You know exactly what he meant.

In 2017 in the games without Zeke, Dak was terrible. Franchise-Record terrible. 5 Tds and 7ints in 6 games. Show me a stretch from Romo that bad.

Dallas had a losing record when Emmitt would miss games. QB rely on those around them, QB do not block for themselves, they do not catch their own passes, they don't play defense. I think there are areas he must continue to work and improve on but hell Romo talked every year of the need to work and improve his game. I also understand until a QB in Dallas wins it all there will be a segment of the fan base hollering to get rid of them. Fans did it with Meredith, White, Romo and a cast of others. People act as if football is a one man show the QB fact is this is a team game not a 1 man show, there is so much that is not even under the control of the QB.

 

[Swagger]

We don't need Dak to be an All-Pro. We just need him to play consistently for 4 quarters, use the running game, and make a few plays with his legs. If our D takes another step forward, we are SB contenders.

In other words...a bus driver.

 

[Swagger]

How did our offense do in the 1st Half?
7 pts hmmmm ya Dak was killing once again as Zeke was being 8 man boxed....

Come on that's out of order - what was his completion again on 3rd down (the quarterback down) in the first half...that will clear this one up once and for all...

 

[Doomsday101]

How did our offense do in the 1st Half?
7 pts hmmmm ya Dak was killing once again as Zeke was being 8 man boxed....

a game is not based on 1 qrt or 1 half of a game. Hell Roger Staubach was captain comeback and that was not because he played great for 4 qrts there were a lot of games that he did not play all that well but came on strong to finish the game. Before you start no I am not saying Dak is Roger what I'm saying it you judge players based on the entire game not a portion of it.

 

[DallasEast]

Who's yall?

Well, 'y'all' is the board of course.

About three or four dozen members post comments daily. Let's say four dozen.

A quarter or half of those four dozen members discuss quarterback, who is currently Dak Prescott. Let's say half.

Favorable and unfavorable comments made by those members are fairly split down the middle. Let's say 50% favor the current quarterback and 50% do not.

The site has 37,000 members.

Essentially, .03 percent of The Board is being questioned how they will react after Prescott accomplishes an All-Pro season because... you know... .03% of the site's membership IS The Board.

 

[G2]

How did our offense do in the 1st Half?
7 pts hmmmm ya Dak was killing once again as Zeke was being 8 man boxed....

I can't anyone serious who cherry picks this pathetically. A game is 4 quarters, not 2.

I would like Prescott and the offense to come out early and put games away, but the LA game is the last example I'd use to bash Prescott. His numbers were good and scored 2 TDs even though Elliott was limited to 50 yards. Anyone who excuses the defense for allowing 275 rushing yards needs to just go away.

 

[G2]

Dallas had a losing record when Emmitt would miss games. QB rely on those around them, QB do not block for themselves, they do not catch their own passes, they don't play defense. I think there are areas he must continue to work and improve on but hell Romo talked every year of the need to work and improve his game. I also understand until a QB in Dallas wins it all there will be a segment of the fan base hollering to get rid of them. Fans did it with Meredith, White, Romo and a cast of others. People act as if football is a one man show the QB fact is this is a team game not a 1 man show, there is so much that is not even under the control of the QB.

Using injured or suspended players as a point to bash Prescott is pretty silly.

 

[Section446]

If he just starts playing like a top 15 QB every week, I'd trust him.

 

[blueblood70]

If Dak plays up to whatever contract he gets this year, do you truly trust him going forward? Or do you wait for the other shoe to drop just to say "I told you so"?

Because from what I read on this board almost daily, if he is anything but perfect (which no one is) yall won't trust him and will still call for Romo lol...

IMO he is better than yall say he is, and even if he is an All Pro this year yall won't trust him. Please prove me wrong.

first off even those who have some issues with Dak making 30mil including me its not that we dont trust Dak, Dak has truly showed up in playoffs games, we havent lost because of him, most were defensive lapses just like the Romo days, sprinkle in poor coaching and play calling etc and that where we are..

The issue is money and years invested in tier 2 starting QB, hes is starter lets not mix that up, hes pretty dang good for his age and where he was drafted, my issues is the FO saying they trust he will turn into tier one guy and PRE-Pay him for that..thats bad decsions..He snot big stat QB but he played very solid in the games that truly count..

he deserves contract but ive been saying this since last year he isnt worth more then 25 , paying him 30 and this is his ceiling, thats bad investment..

make him ear the dump truck contract, give him 25 with incentives and if after 3yrs he has grown like RW then back up the truck.

 

[conner01]

If Dak plays up to whatever contract he gets this year, do you truly trust him going forward? Or do you wait for the other shoe to drop just to say "I told you so"?

Because from what I read on this board almost daily, if he is anything but perfect (which no one is) yall won't trust him and will still call for Romo lol...

IMO he is better than yall say he is, and even if he is an All Pro this year yall won't trust him. Please prove me wrong.

He is better than many think
He’s is far from an all pro though and that’s fine
If the bar for a starting QB you give a second contract to is All Pro then most of the QB’s in the league would be working at McDonald’s
Dak will be extended and he will get more than the talent deserves because with the exception of a handful of QB’s in the nfl, the rest are or will be over paid
That in itself is a league problem but letting Dak walk would be crazy. He’s not a top 5 and likely will never be, but he’s the best QB option we have

 

[America's Cowboy]

How did our offense do in the 1st Half?
7 pts hmmmm ya Dak was killing once again as Zeke was being 8 man boxed....

3rd and 1... + ...4th and 1. Went for it both times with Zeke. Result: got stuffed...and that's because there were a few small gaps to either dive through or instead dive over the pile the way Emmitt used to do. But nada.



We get it though... It's easier to just say it's Dak's fault.

 

[RodeoJake]

In other words...a bus driver.

A bus driver can get us there, but Dak can be better than that with some improvements. He'll probably never be a top 5 QB, but he doesn't have to be.

If Romo would have had a little bus driver in his game, we probably would have had more success with him.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

I trust Dak to be good enough not to screw up this team. But if Zeke goes down or coop then Dak isn't good enough to beat an average NFL team.

Disagree. Our OL is at full strength, Dak will have better protection. Zeke has 2 backups who should be good behind this line. Dak will have fun usiing Pollard confusing defenses how to cover him. Weber too can run behind this line. Dak has way more weapons overall if Zeke is out. We are deep at wr. Have 2 young TE's with promise, I like Jarwin.

And we have an upgraded defense that should get stops and give the offense good field position.

 

[Sydla]

I'd be way more comfortable paying him a big contract if he had an All-Pro season.

Which is why I would let him play out his rookie deal and see him in 2019 before giving him a contract that will approach or exceed $30MM AAV.

With the way things work here over the last 20 or so years, what will happen is we will announce next week we signed him to a massive contract and then for the next 3-4 years, what we get is a league average QB who is way overpaid.

Make him prove he's upper echelon before signing him to what would be a top tier QB contract.

 

[Swagger]

A bus driver can get us there, but Dak can be better than that with some improvements. He'll probably never be a top 5 QB, but he doesn't have to be.

If Romo would have had a little bus driver in his game, we probably would have had more success with him.

Arguably Romo was exactly that - more of a bus driver during the following years (2012 he was asked to throw for best part of 5000 yards which was never going to end well!): -

2011 - 31 TD 10 Int
2013 - 31 TD 10 Int
2014 - 34 TD 9 Int

Yet still no joy

 

[Falco78]

I trust Dak completely as a backup. Wish we had a Brees-like QB.

30 other teams wish they had a Brees like QB, all except maybe the Patriots...

 

[Scotman]

When Romo was injured 3 years ago, I turned to my wife and told her the season was over.

Dak kept that season alive. He struggled his second year. He struggled when he had a dismantled receiving core. He can't beat teams by himself.

If you go back and read my history on Dak, I've been on the fence. For me, the difference between being an elite QB and a bus driver, in Dak's case, is literally a handful of missed passes. If he connected on 2 or 3 of those passes last year to Gallup, the narrative is different. There are very few QB's that could have beaten us in the playoffs when we were beaten by Green Bay. Sadly, Rogers is one of them.

Dak is going to get paid because you don't have a quarterback in this league if you don't pay a quarterback. And I don't believe for a minute that another rookie is going to come in and do what Dak can do. Is he Rogers? Brady? Brees? Nope. They are the best of this generation and Dak isn't there. Would Romo at his best be better with this team than Dak has been? Probably. But Romo isn't at his best any more. Dak isn't at the level of Staubach, Aikman or Romo. But he isn't Teebow or Quincy, either. That's silly. If you wanted to compare his success to Danny White in his first three years as a starter, that would be a lot more credible comparison.

The worst part about all of this is how personal the attacks have become. The board has actually reduced itself to calling each other names based on which QB they like.

I love the Cowboys. They were one of the bright spots in my childhood...one of the things I was able to look forward to in an otherwise troubled world. I will not be satisfied with the team as a whole until we get back to the Superbowl and win it. I don't hate Romo because he didn't get us there. I just want to win. I really do. Dak is the best hope we have right now. I also hope the rising salary cap will mitigate the negative impact his big contract is going to have...because he needs some stars around him.

Will it erase my doubts if he goes All Pro this year? NO DOUBT! Until he has a bad year...then I am back on the fence.

 

[DandyDon52]

Having an all pro season doesnt mean much for any qb, if they are not also all pro once in the playoffs.

The problem with Dallas is they are good enough to win the division , and or make the playoffs,
but once in, the coaching, and how the players do is not good enough.
Dak is 1-2 in playoff games, not sure what his stats were in those games.
it isnt all on him though, the coaches and some of the other players, are at fault for losing those playoff games.

Garrett is 2-3 in playoffs. 2 WC wins so he is 0-3 in div round. Dak is 0-2 in div round.
Garrett was also 0-3 in the win and your in games during the 8-8 years.
Garrett was OC and play caller, back in 2007 and 2009 when cowboys made the playoffs, his offense scored 17 and 3 points
in the 2 losses. That isnt enough to win, and he had Romo back then, younger Romo!

So I see a common denominator in all this and it is Garrett.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

3rd and 1... + ...4th and 1. Went for it both times with Zeke. Result: got stuffed...and that's because there were a few small gaps to either dive through or instead dive over the pile the way Emmitt used to do. But nada.



We get it though... It's easier to just say it's Dak's fault.

It's always someone's else when our offense doesn't score dang why would anyone blame the QB?