Another sign we’re close?

[CouchCoach]

I believe we had 17 starters at quarterback after Troy Aikman left before Tony Romo started. How many people remember Randall Cunningham was a cowboy. I still can't

The difference between those QB's between Aikman and Romo is that they weren't good enough and I believe Prescott is just as I thought Romo was good enough but they never built the right team around him. When it comes to the OL, Prescott got the goldmine and Romo got the shaft with his GM even remarking about what a terrible job they did of building an OL.

 

[Typhus]

The difference between those QB's between Aikman and Romo is that they weren't good enough and I believe Prescott is just as I thought Romo was good enough but they never built the right team around him. When it comes to the OL, Prescott got the goldmine and Romo got the shaft with his GM even remarking about what a terrible job they did of building an OL.

Agree, but Romo did not buy in until he got married,, and got responsible in the last 2 years of his contract. Wife had to throw down the law...lol, but true,

 

[ESisback]

At any position, not just QB. Some teams are going to have to "settle" for a Tier 2 to try and get the job done.

That's why I am OK with Prescott. I do not see another feasible option and I do like the idea of a team being aware they have to build around that guy. Staubach and Aikman were better than any QB's we've had and both had great teams built around them. Particularly, on the other side of the line.

Greg likes to think because we don’t have the next Roger or Troy that A)We don’t want one, or B)We’re not trying to get one. Makes it easy to ***** about Jerry. The day we “get over the hump” is the day Jerry relinquishes control. Just ask him!

He’ll call this an attack, so apologies in advance!

 

[Jake]

We have fans that see the results with Dak as better than the results with Romo. I see it as much the same so far.

Over the last decade, Dallas is 3-4 in playoff games. In 3 of those losses the opponent scored 30 or more points. The other was "Dez caught it" at Lambeau where they allowed 26. Of course, GB didn't need points in the last 4 minutes so they killed the clock instead.

The Cowboys have never won a playoff game where they allowed 30 or more points. That includes Staubach and Aikman.

 

[CouchCoach]

Greg likes to think because we don’t have the next Roger or Troy that A)We don’t want one, or B)We’re not trying to get one. Makes it easy to ***** about Jerry. The day we “get over the hump” is the day Jerry relinquishes control. Just ask him!

He’ll call this an attack, so apologies in advance!

However, he does not mask that. No hidden agenda with the Gregmeister. And if you recall, I used to be as bad if not worse back in the olden days. I was one of the first Booger beaters when posters were still holding onto "best owner, not a good GM".

The difference is I can give credit to an old dog not learning as many new tricks but finding out the ones that don't work so well better than Greg can. I do not need to shift credit to McClay or his son if some good things are happening. I mean, any GM been in training longer than this one? He should be better.

Greg has admitted his own friends try to smother him during a nap when he gets to debating because he is relentless. That frustrates some posters and they get pissed because it's not like we all haven't agreed that Booger was a bad GM. The difference is I don't think that any longer. He's still part-time but he's putting that part of his time to better use with his decision making. Some think I have a problem with him as GM and that's not the case, never really was as the man owns it and can run it the way he sees fit. My problem with him has always been this spotlight seeking like an old starlet and wanting to be a celebrity and his asinine little comments.

 

[Diehardblues]

Over the last decade, Dallas is 3-4 in playoff games. In 3 of those losses the opponent scored 30 or more points. The other was "Dez caught it" at Lambeau where they allowed 26. Of course, GB didn't need points in the last 4 minutes so they killed the clock instead.

The Cowboys have never won a playoff game where they allowed 30 or more points. That includes Staubach and Aikman.

That’s a fine stat to support your narrative but our offense last year was 22nd in scoring . Not winning many playoff games against the more prolific QB’s and offenses with that.

 

[Hardline]

The logic is he no longer has those College contacts. It's by committee not by Jerry alone it hasn't been for two seasons now in my opinion. Maybe you didn't understand or read that

A committee still has a head. An executive decision can trump the vote of a committee. The committee did a great job of convincing Jerry not to take Johnny College but that was Jerry's decision and his alone.

 

[CouchCoach]

Over the last decade, Dallas is 3-4 in playoff games. In 3 of those losses the opponent scored 30 or more points. The other was "Dez caught it" at Lambeau where they allowed 26. Of course, GB didn't need points in the last 4 minutes so they killed the clock instead.

The Cowboys have never won a playoff game where they allowed 30 or more points. That includes Staubach and Aikman.

Interesting stat and I would be interested in just how many playoff games have been won when any team gave up 30. Shootouts in the NFL playoffs are rare.

 

[Diehardblues]

Greg likes to think because we don’t have the next Roger or Troy that A)We don’t want one, or B)We’re not trying to get one. Makes it easy to ***** about Jerry. The day we “get over the hump” is the day Jerry relinquishes control. Just ask him!

He’ll call this an attack, so apologies in advance!

That’s not a personal attack. I think you know the difference.

I’m saying we haven’t used our resources to obtain a generational QB.

And I’d certainly like our chances more when Jerry relinquishes Control. It continues to amaze me fans in this forum which defend our football organization this era. I don’t run into these type of fans anywhere else?

 

[Diehardblues]

Interesting stat and I would be interested in just how many playoff games have been won when any team gave up 30. Shootouts in the NFL playoffs are rare.

Yea especially if the teams in our Glory Years didn’t win any with those Doomsday Defenses.

 

[CouchCoach]

That’s not a personal attack. I think you know the difference.

I’m saying we haven’t used our resources to obtain a generational QB.

And I’d certainly like our chances more when Jerry relinquishes Control. It continues to amaze me fans in this forum which defend our football organization this era. I don’t run into these type of fans anywhere else?

How many other GM's have obtained that generational QB?

 

[CouchCoach]

That’s not a personal attack. I think you know the difference.

I’m saying we haven’t used our resources to obtain a generational QB.

And I’d certainly like our chances more when Jerry relinquishes Control. It continues to amaze me fans in this forum which defend our football organization this era. I don’t run into these type of fans anywhere else?

I can't answer that, only you know the answer to that.

 

[Diehardblues]

However, he does not mask that. No hidden agenda with the Gregmeister. And if you recall, I used to be as bad if not worse back in the olden days. I was one of the first Booger beaters when posters were still holding onto "best owner, not a good GM".

The difference is I can give credit to an old dog not learning as many new tricks but finding out the ones that don't work so well better than Greg can. I do not need to shift credit to McClay or his son if some good things are happening. I mean, any GM been in training longer than this one? He should be better.

Greg has admitted his own friends try to smother him during a nap when he gets to debating because he is relentless. That frustrates some posters and they get pissed because it's not like we all haven't agreed that Booger was a bad GM. The difference is I don't think that any longer. He's still part-time but he's putting that part of his time to better use with his decision making. Some think I have a problem with him as GM and that's not the case, never really was as the man owns it and can run it the way he sees fit. My problem with him has always been this spotlight seeking like an old starlet and wanting to be a celebrity and his asinine little comments.

Yep

It just continues to amaze there are any Cowboy fans out there that support Jerry as our owner and GM..

I know several hundreds if not thousands personally and probably can name on one hand or less anyone who doesn’t believe Jerry is our greatest hindrance and obstacle in Football Operations .

 

[Diehardblues]

I can't answer that, only you know the answer to that.

Do you personally know Cowboy fans that think Jerry as GM provides us the best opportunity for success?

 

[Diehardblues]

How many other GM's have obtained that generational QB?

I personally don’t know other GM’s names but I’d be glad to list the teams and QB’s this era.

 

[Diehardblues]

I have given Jerry credit. I’ve often said when he’s had greater influences he’s made better decisions like with Jimmy, Bill and now Jason or whoever your agenda wants to credit since Jason took over.

And while I’ve seen some better decisions I’ve also seen some that look much like the old ones. I don’t see us closer. The closet I’ve seen us in this era was 2007 and 2014. That offense in 2014 was championship caliber. Just needed a better defense.

This offense despite leagues leading rusher, Pro Bowl OL and WR1 is still bottom tier ( 22nd) in yards and scoring. How can that be? 15th ranked passing QB is where I’d start.

And while this is best defense we’ve put together since Parcells #1 defense carried Quincy to playoffs it still has some weaknesses up the middle which Rams exposed.

If we could maintain a top 10 defense while tweaking its weakness and elevate our lesser offense we might have a championship caliber team.

Otherwise we’re either going to need a generational QB to elevate this offense or build a generational defense to carry our offense.

 

[CouchCoach]

Yep

It just continues to amaze there are any Cowboy fans out there that support Jerry as our owner and GM..

I know several hundreds if not thousands personally and probably can name on one hand or less anyone who doesn’t believe Jerry is our greatest hindrance and obstacle in Football Operations .

I have never supported him financially, not even through the ratings as I've never been a Nielsen household, but I do accept him as the owner and GM but not of our team, his team.

We are all fans of his team. My only option is to stay or go as he is the constant and will remain so until he can no longer mentally or physically do the job. Just to keep complaining about him is wasted fingertip skin.

And I used to call him on his mistakes but I also give him credit for getting better at it. The one thing I will argue with posters is that he's only about the money, I do believe he's done his best as a part-time GM, some risks just didn't work out but he was always trying to make his team better.

And I gotta give the man credit, there is no quit in him. He couldn't bring himself to fire the GM even when he admitted he should have. The man has been the GM of this team one year longer than Landry coached and has handled a hell of a lot more heat and criticism and he just keeps being that Energizer bunny,

The thing I feel is unfair about this is the refusal to give him any credit for changing through learning. If it's bad, it's Booger, if it's getting better, it is someone else, anyone else.

If Conner McGovern turns out to be something, just remember that shot from the war room and how many, including the heir to throne, wanted to trade down and how Booger didn't hesitate.

 

[Diehardblues]

I have never supported him financially, not even through the ratings as I've never been a Nielsen household, but I do accept him as the owner and GM but not of our team, his team.

We are all fans of his team. My only option is to stay or go as he is the constant and will remain so until he can no longer mentally or physically do the job. Just to keep complaining about him is wasted fingertip skin.

And I used to call him on his mistakes but I also give him credit for getting better at it. The one thing I will argue with posters is that he's only about the money, I do believe he's done his best as a part-time GM, some risks just didn't work out but he was always trying to make his team better.

And I gotta give the man credit, there is no quit in him. He couldn't bring himself to fire the GM even when he admitted he should have. The man has been the GM of this team one year longer than Landry coached and has handled a hell of a lot more heat and criticism and he just keeps being that Energizer bunny,

The thing I feel is unfair about this is the refusal to give him any credit for changing through learning. If it's bad, it's Booger, if it's getting better, it is someone else, anyone else.

If Conner McGovern turns out to be something, just remember that shot from the war room and how many, including the heir to throne, wanted to trade down and how Booger didn't hesitate.

Bottom line:
Is Jerry as GM in the best interest of Cowboys Football?

We all have to tolerate him as owner and GM but we don’t have like it. Why should we ever accept it? I can love my franchise rooting the team on without supporting or liking its leadership.

And I’ll continue to argue our leadership is our biggest obstacle to overcome. Until it isn’t...

 

[ESisback]

That’s not a personal attack. I think you know the difference.

I’m saying we haven’t used our resources to obtain a generational QB.

And I’d certainly like our chances more when Jerry relinquishes Control. It continues to amaze me fans in this forum which defend our football organization this era. I don’t run into these type of fans anywhere else?

Hey, no malice. Just passion over clashing ideologies at times, add a dash of smartassery! You’re a great fan, and we all want the same thing. For the most part.

Of course I enjoy porn and copious amounts of alcohol and unhealthy meats and cheeses...

 

[Diehardblues]

The difference between those QB's between Aikman and Romo is that they weren't good enough and I believe Prescott is just as I thought Romo was good enough but they never built the right team around him. When it comes to the OL, Prescott got the goldmine and Romo got the shaft with his GM even remarking about what a terrible job they did of building an OL.

They finally built that OL and by 2014 we had the best Cowboys offense in 21st Century. A championship caliber offense. All we needed to do then was build a better defense like we have now.

But we believed the hoopla surrounding the OL, became too arrogant and Stephen probably influenced the decision which was his first big Cheapskate decision coupled with mismanaging Dez franchise tag which disrupted the greatest Tripletts since 90’s.

Result was RB by Committee which probably shortened Romo’s career and ultimately led to ending it the following year with the best backup QB we’ve had this Century.