Twitter: Eagles sign Wentz to 4 year extension for $128 million

Little Jr

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There’s still those who want to blame Romo for the lack of success and now we have those who are wanting to credit Dak for the success of this team.

Either there are underlying agendas or they aren’t keen evaluators of a prolific passer.
On the other side of that, there are ones who still give Romo credit for what little success we had with him and give none to Dak to what little success we've had in the last 3 years.
 

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People know it is ok to have love for Romo and Dak right? Or any other former Dallas QB or player?

I agree. I backed Romo and will always have good memories of his time here. I hate that he did not get that ring before his time was done. Now is Dak turn in the hot seat and I know for a fact he will be blamed for any lack of success this team has until he can help them to a championship.
 

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On the other side of that, there are ones who still give Romo credit for what little success we had with him and give none to Dak to what little success we've had in the last 3 years.
Could be . I’m more interested in comparing their passing abilities.
 

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Steve Young had at least a 10 year career, probably longer. Theisman was like 37 or so.. Bridgewater is the only qb that you even have a semblance of a point on, and he is still in the league. The qb position is no more dangerous than any other....... probably the safest position in the game actually.
You're changing the parameters of my statement. The plain fact of the matter is an NFL football player's career can end at any time on any play, and that's really not in dispute except by you. I'm not going to sit here and argue semantics I think the statement stands for itself.
 

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Could be . I’m more interested in comparing their passing abilities.

I agree but if you compare Dak 3 years in the league and that of another QB at that same point of their career I have no issue with it, but when you compare a 14 year vet to a 3rd year player that is a different. Like saying Brady numbers as a 3rd year QB is not as good as Brady numbers became as he continued to grow and develop into the HOF QB he has become.
 

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He played 16 games his rookie season. He had a scare in the preseason of 2016, but he didn't miss time.
He played 29 straight games before injuring his knee. I'm not in the group of folks that think he's fragile in fact I think he's extremely tough taking the hits he takes when the Eagles head coach spends little resources blocking extra pass rushers, and doesn't run the ball. There's consequences for open offenses. Dak gets sacked a lot, but he doesn't get the ferocious hits because our offense is more balanced.
 

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Could be . I’m more interested in comparing their passing abilities.
More interested comparing the wins. If you want to give credit to the team for wins, I'm good with that and agree.

When you compare the team wins and success under each QB in the first 3 years, it's very similar. When you compare the talent of those teams they are very similar with Dak having the edge on the 2016 team. They were more talented than the 2007-2009 teams but not much more than the 2007 team. The 2017&18 teams were less talented than the 2007 team and equal to the 2008&2009 teams.

As long as we keep the comparisons in the first 3 years of Romo career, I'm good with that. Then we can get into the numbers in detail.

Like Dak, Romo was never the main issue for the lack of success. Since he was part of the team and at the most important position, he gets part of the blame but not all. Both offer different thing's that the other can't.
 

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So if Wentz would have remained the starting QB in 2018 would the Eagles have made the playoffs? They were 6-7 when Foles took over. Wentz's 5 victories last year were against the Commanders at home with Mark Sanchez at QB, the Giants at home, Jacksonville at home, the Giants on the road, and Indianapolis at home early in the year before the Colts got hot. Not too impressive.
No, they would not have made the playoffs because he was hurt. If you recall Wentz was coming back from a knee that had 2 torn ligaments in it, didn't participate in OTA's, was limited in spring training, and didn't even start the season. He probably wouldn't have played until the 2nd half of the season but Foles was struggling as a starter, so they rushed him back. I believe the coach gave up on the season, and yanked Wentz for fear of further injury using the back fracture as an excuse to sit him, but he played all year with that so why yank him when he did?

Several Philly starters came back, and Foles came in about the same time and that team came together best they could with the injuries they had. That was my perspective and I live in Eagles country with a house full of Eagles fans and all I get on the local sports station is Eagles Eagles Eagles.

It reminded me of Green Bay when Aaron Rodgers was rushed back, but benched again when Green Bay was out of playoff contention.
 

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More interested comparing the wins. If you want to give credit to the team for wins, I'm good with that and agree.

When you compare the team wins and success under each QB in the first 3 years, it's very similar. When you compare the talent of those teams they are very similar with Dak having the edge on the 2016 team. They were more talented than the 2007-2009 teams but not much more than the 2007 team. The 2017&18 teams were less talented than the 2007 team and equal to the 2008&2009 teams.

As long as we keep the comparisons in the first 3 years of Romo career, I'm good with that. Then we can get into the numbers in detail.

Like Dak, Romo was never the main issue for the lack of success. Since he was part of the team and at the most important position, he gets part of the blame but not all. Both offer different thing's that the other can't.
No, like I said only interested in comparing their passing ability and skill sets.
 

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On the other side of that, there are ones who still give Romo credit for what little success we had with him and give none to Dak to what little success we've had in the last 3 years.
Romo took heavy fire for every little thing. Hell, he couldn't wear his hat backward. He and plenty of other players are to blame for not finishing, but Romo will always stand out more.
The issue is after he retired, he somehow became a legend with no team around him and the same excuses are not afforded to Prescott. It's a weird flip to experience.
 

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He’s been injured every year for the past 4 years. He’s injury prone.
Very much so. The Egals should have waited till the end of 2019 season before signing Wentz' extension.

If he's injured for his 5th consecutive year in his career, they're in trouble. He's too big of a gamble & the Egals are/were too impatient. The man has yet to take a snap in post season. They should have paid Foles and kick Wentz to the curb. Bad move by the Boo Birds.
No, he hasn't. He hasn't even played his 4th year yet. He didn't get hurt until 29 games into his career.
Thats incorrect. Wentz is heading into his 5th consecutive season playing football. Depends what career you're referring to? College career? NFL career? Usually when someone refers to career, it's understood as an occupation undertaken for a significant period of a person's life and with opportunities for progress. In which case, it's Wentz' football career.

Here's a clear look at Wentz's injury injury since 2015.

October 17, 2015: Wentz broke a bone in his throwing wrist that required surgery. He missed eight weeks, returned to practice in December and was cleared to play in the national championship game for North Dakota State.

August 11, 2016: Wentz suffered a hairline fracture in his ribs against Tampa Bay. He missed the entire preseason, but played all 16 regular season games.

December 10, 2017: Wentz suffered a Grade 3 tear of the ACL and LCL and missed the remainder of the 2017 regular season and postseason. He also missed the first two games of the 2018 season. To top it off, his injury missed games was the greatest achievement in his life. He managed to get a beautiful Superbowl ring on his finger. o_O

December 12, 2018: Wentz has back spasms that may force him to miss the rest of the 2018 season. Wentz's injury history has been well documented since his latest occurrence, which may have something to do with his inability to roll out of the pocket and throw outside the hashmarks.

Which is quite alright for us Cowboys fans being Dak & Company swept China Wentz Doll last season. :thumbup:
 
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Very much so. The Egals should have waited till the end of 2019 season before signing Wentz' extension.

If he's injured for his 5th consecutive year in his career, they're in trouble. He's too big of a gamble & the Egals are/were too impatient. The man has yet to take a snap in post season. They should have paid Foles and kick Wentz to the curb. Bad move by the Boo Birds.Thats incorrect. Wentz is heading into his 5th consecutive season playing football. Depends what career you're referring to? College career? NFL career? Usually when someone refers to career, it's understood as an occupation undertaken for a significant period of a person's life and with opportunities for progress. In which case, it's Wentz' football career.

Here's a clear look at Wentz's injury injury since 2015.

October 17, 2015: Wentz broke a bone in his throwing wrist that required surgery. He missed eight weeks, returned to practice in December and was cleared to play in the national championship game for North Dakota State.

August 11, 2016: Wentz suffered a hairline fracture in his ribs against Tampa Bay. He missed the entire preseason, but played all 16 regular season games.

December 10, 2017: Wentz suffered a Grade 3 tear of the ACL and LCL and missed the remainder of the 2017 regular season and postseason. He also missed the first two games of the 2018 season.

December 12, 2018: Wentz has back spasms that may force him to miss the rest of the 2018 season. Wentz's injury history has been well documented since his latest occurrence, which may have something to do with his inability to roll out of the pocket and throw outside the hashmarks.

Which is quite alright for us Cowboys fans being Dak & Company swept China Wentz Doll last season.
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Romo took heavy fire for every little thing. Hell, he couldn't wear his hat backward. He and plenty of other players are to blame for not finishing, but Romo will always stand out more.
The issue is after he retired, he somehow became a legend with no team around him and the same excuses are not afforded to Prescott. It's a weird flip to experience.
Agree 100%. I tell people all the time, i don't understand how a player becomes such a legend after he retires after being labeled a chocker during his career. I defended him all the time and didn't have a lot of help from fans. So I'm not sure where all the Romo love came from after he retired.
 

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Agree 100%. I tell people all the time, i don't understand how a player becomes such a legend after he retires after being labeled a chocker during his career. I defended him all the time and didn't have a lot of help from fans. So I'm not sure where all the Romo love came from after he retired.
Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
 

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Agree 100%. I tell people all the time, i don't understand how a player becomes such a legend after he retires after being labeled a chocker during his career. I defended him all the time and didn't have a lot of help from fans. So I'm not sure where all the Romo love came from after he retired.

True. Romo was a very good QB for a long time. One of the better ones in the league. But he has reached near mythical status since retiring.

People also like to pretend like his injury history wasn’t a major concern and he would have been perfectly fine if he kept playing.

They also like to pretend like he didn’t get better over the course of a decade playing.

I loved Romo. Still do. But you have to be honest about him. And every player no matter how good, the clock runs out on him.
 

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Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
Absence? That **** started half way through the 2016 season and at the end of the season we would've been super bowl champs of Romo had beem I starting.
 

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Absence? That **** started half way through the 2016 season and at the end of the season we would've been super bowl champs of Romo had beem I starting.
Okay. Whatever.
 
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