Lame Duck Coach

[CouchCoach]

I really believe fans and media have fabricated that Garrett is on the hot seat simply because Jerry hasn’t extended his contract which is the norm for Jerry and coaches.

That and the comment Son made on a radio show. What's amusing is how posters cherry pick the things the Joneses say to fit their wish list.

There is a very good reason other owners and GM's do not get hip deep in the media, the fear of saying something they didn't intend to say and then have to crawfish on it. These Joneses could care less, just give them a camera and/or mic to feed their self importance.

 

[glimmerman]

I'm trying to figure out why that sounds soooooooo familiar.

Good point.. Moore is HC next year.. After he sabotages JG and the team gives up on him.. Lol

 

[CouchCoach]

Yep

Jimmy also had the championship pedigree and his teams carried the same swagger as their HC.

Riley hasn’t won a championship and hasn’t proved he’s anything more than mopping up on the Elite talent his school brings in compared to rest of Little 10 conference. Lol

Well, there is that two Heisman QB's back to back and that ain't normal but both were transfers and he's got a 3rd one now. He's an offensive coach in an offensive conference so he's going to get a lot of light.

Success begets success in college so that recruiting edge that Stoops had should continue. Last year, OU had one recruited player from OK. I wouldn't touch a HC from a school like that anymore than I would want Saban, Swinney or Kelly because of all of those 5 stars. They're great recruiters but that only works for one HC in the NFL and he uses rings as bait.

Give me the guy that does more with less like a Chris Peterson, if they're going to college for a HC.

 

[CouchCoach]

Good point.. Moore is HC next year.. After he sabotages JG and the team gives up on him.. Lol

Booger is a follower and no doubt sees Moore and the next McVay. But he needs to check closely, McVay is getting all the credit.

 

[TWOK11]

I really believe fans and media have fabricated that Garrett is on the hot seat simply because Jerry hasn’t extended his contract which is the norm for Jerry and coaches.

There’s some truth to this for sure. Of course, the fanbase has also convinced themselves that Garrett is all-time awful despite mountains of objective data suggesting he’s an above average NFL head coach.

 

[acr731]

There’s some truth to this for sure. Of course, the fanbase has also convinced themselves that Garrett is all-time awful despite mountains of objective data suggesting he’s an above average NFL head coach.

Above average being rated 50.0000001 on a scale of 1 to 100?

 

[TWOK11]

Above average being rated 50.0000001 on a scale of 1 to 100?

His resume (3 division titles, averaging over 9 wins per season, only 1/8 seasons below .500) places him well inside the top half of current NFL coaches. Historically, he’s already won more division titles than 86% of NFL coaches ever have.

Can we do better? Sure, but we are much more likely to do worse and Garrett is unquestionably the 3rd best coach in team history behind Landry and Jimmy (who went to a combined 8 SBs).

 

[Dre11]

Yes. He wants to win. Couldn't pay him enough to take him to Lubbock.

Then you're as naive as I thought...lol

 

[Dre11]

Jerry’s the one who’s worried. Where’s his next Puppet coming from? Lol

Jerry's not worried either. He knows who Jason is and what he's capable of

 

[Diehardblues]

His resume (3 division titles, averaging over 9 wins per season, only 1/8 seasons below .500) places him well inside the top half of current NFL coaches. Historically, he’s already won more division titles than 86% of NFL coaches ever have.

Can we do better? Sure, but we are much more likely to do worse and Garrett is unquestionably the 3rd best coach in team history behind Landry and Jimmy (who went to a combined 8 SBs).

Well said ... and I agree.

1 minor correction. ( Landry and Jimmy a combined 7 SB’s) Switzer went to 1.

 

[Diehardblues]

There’s some truth to this for sure. Of course, the fanbase has also convinced themselves that Garrett is all-time awful despite mountains of objective data suggesting he’s an above average NFL head coach.

I’m not sure the majority of fan base feels that. A loud vocal segment in this forum. Like a Lynch Mob.

But the sentiment I sense locally and within my circle of friends are more supportive mainly because of the circumstances surrounding our franchise with Jerry’s mgmt style.

We’d all like to see and have more success. We see and realize the weaknesses Garrett presents on the field but we also see some of the assets he’s brought and progress off the field.

If we believed Jerry would make a better decision moving forward we might be better prepared to pull the trigger.

I think the majority of fans are quietly hoping and rooting in the background pulling for Garrett to finally overcome Jerry’s ways.

 

[Whyjerry]

I coached a long time and I saw many lame duck coaches. Thank goodness I was never in that situation, but those that were did not handle it very well. I was close to five coaches that went through that and spoke to them regularly. The pressure they were under was immense. Beyond worrying about paying their bills, the hit to their ego that they might be fired was tough. Do you think Garrett is worried? Yes or no?

Doubt he is worried. He has already been paid a ton of money. I believe the guy is so arrogant he thinks if it doesn’t work in Dallas, New England is next.

 

[Whyjerry]

Well said ... and I agree.

1 minor correction. ( Landry and Jimmy a combined 7 SB’s) Switzer went to 1.

Switzer has a SB thanks to Jimmy Johnson. That guy did nothing but ride those coattails to the end.

 

[Diehardblues]

Switzer has a SB thanks to Jimmy Johnson. That guy did nothing but ride those coattails to the end.

Agreed.

 

[Ranching]

Then you're as naive as I thought...lol

There you go thinking again! Lol

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Switzer has a SB thanks to Jimmy Johnson. That guy did nothing but ride those coattails to the end.

True, but technically he was the head coach, you could say some of the same things about Ditka, he inherited a team that had Walter Payton, Dan Hampton, Gary Fencik, Mike Singletary, Doug Plank and Matt Suey, all good to great players. Yet nobody says he "won with Neil Armstrong's players". George Siefert won the 1989 SB the year after the 49ers won with Bill Walsh. Again, if you're going to say Switzer won because of Jimmy, then say Seifert won because of Walsh.

No doubt Switzer inherited a SB winning team, not just a playoff team, not saying Ditka had it as good. AND I'M NOT SAYING SWITZER HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE SUPER BOWL WIN. Just to be clear.

But just saying if you look at the list of SB winning coaches, there's no asterisk beside Switzer's name....

 

[Whyjerry]

True, but technically he was the head coach, you could say some of the same things about Ditka, he inherited a team that had Walter Payton, Dan Hampton, Gary Fencik, Mike Singletary, Doug Plank and Matt Suey, all good to great players. Yet nobody says he "won with Neil Armstrong's players". George Siefert won the 1989 SB the year after the 49ers won with Bill Walsh. Again, if you're going to say Switzer won because of Jimmy, then say Seifert won because of Walsh.

No doubt Switzer inherited a SB winning team, not just a playoff team, not saying Ditka had it as good. AND I'M NOT SAYING SWITZER HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE SUPER BOWL WIN. Just to be clear.

But just saying if you look at the list of SB winning coaches, there's no asterisk beside Switzer's name....

Please don’t compare Seifert and Ditka to Switzer. It’s embarrassing for you.

Seifert coached 8 years in SF. Great record throughout. Dikta coached the Bears for 11 years.

The stupidity of some people is mind boggling.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Please don’t compare Seifert and Ditka to Switzer. It’s embarrassing for you.

Seifert coached 8 years in SF. Great record throughout. Dikta coached the Bears for 11 years.

The stupidity of some people is mind boggling.

Yea and really with Ditka they were nothing before he became coach. Hadn't been anything really since the 60's.

 

[acr731]

..... we are much more likely to do worse and Garrett is unquestionably the 3rd best coach in team history behind Landry and Jimmy (who went to a combined 8 SBs).

So we stick with the status quo and never strive for more and never accomplish anything more simply because there might be worse than Garrett out there.

Sounds reasonable.

 

[Diehardblues]

True, but technically he was the head coach, you could say some of the same things about Ditka, he inherited a team that had Walter Payton, Dan Hampton, Gary Fencik, Mike Singletary, Doug Plank and Matt Suey, all good to great players. Yet nobody says he "won with Neil Armstrong's players". George Siefert won the 1989 SB the year after the 49ers won with Bill Walsh. Again, if you're going to say Switzer won because of Jimmy, then say Seifert won because of Walsh.

No doubt Switzer inherited a SB winning team, not just a playoff team, not saying Ditka had it as good. AND I'M NOT SAYING SWITZER HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE SUPER BOWL WIN. Just to be clear.

But just saying if you look at the list of SB winning coaches, there's no asterisk beside Switzer's name....

There’s not an asterisk officially but there should be. At least there is most Cowboy fans eyes. Especially after blowing the one the year before.