The false perception Stephen is running Cowboys Football

[CouchCoach]

Those aren’t the same situation.

Jerry kept bringing in high priced free agents like T.O. under Parcells. He spent big money on age and famous names. It’s what he thinks is the right way to get talent. Yes Jerry listened to Bill... but ultimately he was still doing what he liked to do.

Now, under Stephen, the entire management of the salary cap is completely different. Unlike anything that ever happened with Jerry making the decisions. They don’t pay big money to free agents. They stay away from age like the old guys are leper’s. Jerry’s favorites like Romo and Dez are moved on from with no problem.

Those things hadn’t happened before under any regime.

This is different.

Indeed it is but does that mean the decision maker hasn't learned from his mistakes? The question is who are the influencers and every GM has them. With Booger, I believe it's McClay, Son and Garrett for sure but there are probably others that we are not aware of in the background.

What I disagree with is the conclusion that the decisions are better; therefore, there is a different decision maker. I believe it is the same with a circle of influence very different than 10 years ago.

 

[Whirlwin]

I totally believe it's an organization a franchise decision. And if they're all splits and they don't know what to do. I believe it's Steven. But they're not going to tell you that.

 

[Doomsday101]

What do you think they're going to say I'm in charge dad's no longer in charge. Make no mistake about it Jerry is not the final decision any longer but they're not going to post, in 10 foot billboard letters

I always like that come back what are they going to say? lol If Jerry is not charge they can say what ever they want, he would have no say. Jerry has not given up anything, he is Owner/GM you can like it or not makes me no difference. Those who cover the Cowboys daily damn well know Jerry is final say, Jason Garrett as I posted say Jerry is final say only people hear who hate to say it refuse to think that Jerry is the final say. I do think as Stephen said that his dad trust him more today and his input than before and Stephen and McClay are 2 very influential voices but other than this sight I have seen no one question who is in charge

 

[Doomsday101]

I totally believe it's an organization a franchise decision. And if they're all splits and they don't know what to do. I believe it's Steven. But they're not going to tell you that.

shh we want say a word. lol

 

[AsthmaField]

Interesting how these better decisions begin with Garrett taking over in 2011. About the same time some are professing Stephen begin running Cowboys Football.
Lol ..I smell an agenda.

This I agree with you on. IMO, Garrett has has a big influence on their talent acquisitions, among other things.

He had the vision for what type of team he wants (physical, smart guys, who love football) and he has gotten McClay,and Stephen onboard with looking for the kind of guys that fit his team.

Garrett has a lot to do with the talent on this team.

It is why I’m not sure that getting a new coach is the right thing to do.

 

[Whirlwin]

Jerry will not have the final say when he is 6 feet under until then no one around the star who is there day in and day out covering this team seems to think Jerry no longer is in charge. Even Stephen has said that his dad does trust him more today and his views than he has in the past but there is only 1 top boss and that is Jerry Jones

Yes Jerry maybe the boss. He's smart enough to know you no longer has those College contacts. That inside scoop. They tell him what the final decision is LOL look I know everybody wants to believe it's still Jerry it's a franchise it's an organization it's teamwork.

 

[Diehardblues]

I no longer believe Jerry isn't charged and has the final say. It's an intelligent decision by the entire staff. And if there is a final say I'm positive it's not Jerry's decision no longer has those contacts. They're not going to give the credit to William Maclay. And he doesn't want it but it's his

That’s an opinion you’re certainly entitled to. I simply dont agree to that extent.

I’m not sure why we have fans that don’t believe Jerry isnt capable of making good decisions? Or at least recognizing them.

 

[AsthmaField]

I totally believe it's an organization a franchise decision. And if they're all splits and they don't know what to do. I believe it's Steven. But they're not going to tell you that.

This is probably the closest to the truth out of everything.

 

[Whirlwin]

I always like that come back what are they going to say? lol If Jerry is not charge they can say what ever they want, he would have no say. Jerry has not given up anything, he is Owner/GM you can like it or not makes me no difference. Those who cover the Cowboys daily damn well know Jerry is final say, Jason Garrett as I posted say Jerry is final say only people hear who hate to say it refuse to think that Jerry is the final say. I do think as Stephen said that his dad trust him more today and his input than before and Stephen and McClay are 2 very influential voices but other than this sight I have seen no one question who is in charge

No I don't agree they all might like to believe Jerry has the final say. Jerry sells.

 

[Whirlwin]

That’s an opinion you’re certainly entitled to. I simply dont agree to that extent.

I’m not sure why we have fans that don’t believe Jerry isnt capable of making good decisions? Or at least recognizing them.

I never said Jerry isn't capable of making an intelligent decision I'm just saying he's no longer the only one making the decision. That's called being intelligent.

 

[Diehardblues]

I never said Jerry isn't capable of making an intelligent decision I'm just saying he's no longer the only one making the decision. That's called being intelligent.

He never has been the only one. I’m not sure where that perception came from?

 

[Whirlwin]

Someday Jerry just might say it's Stevens ball game. But I wouldn't hold my breath. I'm a manager I giving my people credit. These people love Jerry they're not going to say he doesn't have the final decision and not going to disrespect him. But that doesn't mean it's not happening

 

[Whirlwin]

He never has been the only one. I’m not sure where that perception came from?

I must have misunderstood your meaning in your last response. You said something like fans will never give Jerry credit for being smart enough. I for one think he's extremely intelligent

 

[AsthmaField]

Indeed it is but does that mean the decision maker hasn't learned from his mistakes? The question is who are the influencers and every GM has them. With Booger, I believe it's McClay, Son and Garrett for sure but there are probably others that we are not aware of in the background.

What I disagree with is the conclusion that the decisions are better; therefore, there is a different decision maker. I believe it is the same with a circle of influence very different than 10 years ago.

Probably pretty close to the truth. Jerry has learned a ton over the years.

But Stephens influence is growing day-by-day and he is responsible for much that is going right for the team. It is clear that he’s much more front and center than he was 10 years ago.

Like you mentioned earlier though... I really don’t care as long as the team is well run.

 

[Whirlwin]

shh we want say a word. lol

I use speak and text I have neuropathy in my fingers nerve damage military. Excuse my post for not being explicit enough or gobbled sometimes I do my best

 

[Diehardblues]

This I agree with you on. IMO, Garrett has has a big influence on their talent acquisitions, among other things.

He had the vision for what type of team he wants (physical, smart guys, who love football) and he has gotten McClay,and Stephen onboard with looking for the kind of guys that fit his team.

Garrett has a lot to do with the talent on this team.

It is why I’m not sure that getting a new coach is the right thing to do.

Yep

It’s been a collaborative process influencing Jerry’s decision making. The success in team building and managing the Cap has given Jerry more confidence listening to it.

I’m not sure why some though are construing this into Stephen is running football operations now? And the only reason I feel compelled to have this discussion.

 

[AsthmaField]

Yep

It’s been a collaborative process influencing Jerry’s decision making. The success in team building and managing the Cap has given Jerry more confidence listening to it.

I’m not sure why some though are construing this into Stephen is running football operations now? And the only reason I feel compelled to have this discussion.

It is both, in all likelihood: Jerry and Stephen both listen to Garrett about the type of guys he wants brought in.

 

[Diehardblues]

Probably pretty close to the truth. Jerry has learned a ton over the years.

But Stephens influence is growing day-by-day and he is responsible for much that is going right for the team. It is clear that he’s much more front and center than he was 10 years ago.

Like you mentioned earlier though... I really don’t care as long as the team is well run.

I’d agree with this. Stephens always been an important part of the equation.

He was important when we were winning Super Bowls too. And should take some of the responsibility with Daddy for the down years. We certainly weren’t looking too good last year after letting Dez go sitting at 3-4 until Daddy stepped in .

And this is where Jerry still adds to the equation. His ability to make big and bold moves. A boss should take credit If his influence is assisting the process . It’s all about surrounding yourself with the right people.

And despite the criticism of Garretts coaching ability I believe it’s the right combination for Jerry and why he’s probably the Perfect Puppet.

I appreciate your comments here. It always pushes us to expand our knowledge challenging each other. It’s what makes this country great weighing each other’s thoughts compromising on solutions.

 

[CouchCoach]

This I agree with you on. IMO, Garrett has has a big influence on their talent acquisitions, among other things.

He had the vision for what type of team he wants (physical, smart guys, who love football) and he has gotten McClay,and Stephen onboard with looking for the kind of guys that fit his team.

Garrett has a lot to do with the talent on this team.

It is why I’m not sure that getting a new coach is the right thing to do.

I think this has been his greatest contribution to the franchise. Garrett has the unique distinction of being a part of that team in the 90's. While Booger drifts to the triplets and all that glory, Garrett is there to remind him of that OL and the defense but it has taken time like water dripping on stone because Booger is a follow the football GM.

I think it was the combination of Romo's agent and Garrett that convinced Booger that he had to spend higher picks on the non sexy stuff. And now he realizes that even more because he doesn't have a Houdini at QB. I believe that when Booger would sit up there in his suite and watch Romo make one of those "how the hell did he do that" moves, he felt that's what the fans are coming to see, that's entertainment!

It has taken time but he has come to realize that it's about the team, not the stars, and he's not all the way there yet because of that PT Booger in him. If he'd had a SB winner like the 00Ravens and 03Bucs, he would have been unhappy, that's boring football. Where is the glitz and glamour in that? I do believe that he's going to make a mistake with this version of the triplets and there's no many to dissuade him from that because Son is on board.

 

[cern]

Apparently there’s a growing perception with the overall better decisions and culture we’ve seen in personnel decisions we have fans and media who are framing a narrative that Stephen is now “running Cowboys Football”.

Interestingly I’ve even seen where they document it going back from anywhere between when Garrett took over in 2011 to Johnny Manziel .

Some even say with Jerry building his new stadium was the beginning of only part time duties as GM.

Fans are confusing delegating more air time to Stephen and listening more to the influences around him as a sign Jerry is no longer making the final decisions running Cowboys Football.

There are many signs quite to the contrary including major personnel decisions in draft like in War Room, final visits with key players like Dez , coaching decisions like firing Linehan along with no official announcement he’s taking any lesser role or increasing Stephens role.

I suspect we have fans who want to believe or take credit away from Jerry from being more influenced and delegating while still in control. And others who it probably provides them more hope if they believe Jerry isn’t in control.

Remember Parcells said “ you have to convince Jerry to go against his instincts” . Ive been a huge critic of Jerry thru the years. But he has a history of making better decisions with greater influence around him.

ostriches don't really bury their heads in the sand. that would make no sense at all. neither does your reasoning. Stephen is the new sheriff. any other conclusion would be illogical.