Video: Zeke holding out? "Trade him" says Cowherd

[bsbellomy]

LOL....….serviceable?

Yep, your a Dak hater. At least you can enjoy being dead wrong all season long.

What do you call a guy rated on average by every football expert in America as falling between the 13th - 20th rated QB in the league? Have you ever considered the fact that you just might be a Dak homer?

You want proof you are higher on Dak than football people? How about the fact that he hasn't got a new contract yet? What do you think they are waiting on?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Notice how the team that run their elite RB into the ground last year lost in the super bowl to the team that does RBBC year after year after year

And much of that was because their elite RB got injured

but not many teams have the greatest playoff QB of all time and the best HC of all time either

 

[Altestic]

What do you call a guy rated on average by every football expert in America as falling between the 13th - 20th rated QB in the league? Have you ever considered the fact that you just might be a Dak homer?

You want proof you are higher on Dak than football people? How about the fact that he hasn't got a new contract yet? What do you think they are waiting on?

I say tag and trade him next March. He's still a QB so a more desperate team without a top 3-5 pick will trade a king's ransom for him.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

What do you call a guy rated on average by every football expert in America as falling between the 13th - 20th rated QB in the league? Have you ever considered the fact that you just might be a Dak homer?

You want proof you are higher on Dak than football people? How about the fact that he hasn't got a new contract yet? What do you think they are waiting on?

lol. Nothing but opinions, nothing more. Dak completed 70% of his passes once Cooper arrived.

 

[bsbellomy]

lol. Nothing but opinions, nothing more. Dak completed 70% of his passes once Cooper arrived.

At least they are mostly unbiased which is nothing of what you are going to find here. If you think Dak is above average that's fine, it's probably not a stretch but he's somewhere in the middle tier of the league as far as QB's go. Again, certainly not going to elevate the play of his teammates.

If the Cowboys are so sure about him as you are why haven't they locked him up long term? At this point it doesn't appear it's going to happen before the season, so they are obviously entertaining their options.

 

[CATCH17]

Yeah but championship teams have QB's that elevate the play of all those around them. We don't have that. Like I said you either need Zeke or a complete rebuild.

So how do you feel about Dak and a big contract?

 

[CATCH17]

Argue all you want, but there are a number of games you lose last year if you replace him with another "running back". I don't even think that's debatable. I just don't get how you think the Cowboys are a legit playoff team with Zeke not on the roster.

Our roster is rock solid and RB production in the NFL is a volume more then talent thing.

If you get high volume behind the Cowboys Oline you should have a giant year.

Only Garrett could make us RB dependent and he might have I don’t deny that but 31 other team can just put the next guy out there and give them volume and get great production if they want it.

Most teams throw the football though.

Anyways I love Zeke the player.. He’s a total stud but there are other factors as to why I let him go if we get premium compensation.

 

[Brooksey]

There's a consensus around the league by GM's not to offer 2nd contracts to RB's because of the amount of carries they receive? Because their production goes down hill? I agree which is why RB's should be paid higher on their rookie contracts than anyone else.

 

[HanD]

If the Cowboys are so sure about him as you are why haven't they locked him up long term? At this point it doesn't appear it's going to happen before the season, so they are obviously entertaining their options.

i'm not taking a side in your discussion (i need more data to make a concrete opinion) but this point probably has more to do with the salary cap than how they feel about him. the jones-es have said many times how they feel about dak. i still think there is a decent chance it gets done before the season.

 

[Frozen700]

I've said all along that if we can get a 1st rounder for him then trade him. If not then just keep him.

Get rid of him and Dak

Dak is more useless though

 

[CowboyRoy]

What do you call a guy rated on average by every football expert in America as falling between the 13th - 20th rated QB in the league? Have you ever considered the fact that you just might be a Dak homer?

You want proof you are higher on Dak than football people? How about the fact that he hasn't got a new contract yet? What do you think they are waiting on?

Dak's first 3 year resume is arguably one of the best in NFL history. Now if you are comparing him to QB's in their prime then that is just plain stupid. Young QB's take time to develop. Dak is 23 or 24?

If Dak is in the middle of the pack right now, then that is great. Only a QB dunce would think that a 3rd year QB with all the intangibles that Dak has wouldn't get better.

Then of course you can point to the overwhelming resume in only his first 3 years:

-Rookie of the year
-2 pro bowls
-2nd most wins in the last 3 years only to Tom Brady
-Leads the NFL in comeback victories
-3 winning seasons
-Two playoffs
-one playoff victory

ect…..ect…….

I have Dak 12-15 at this point and climbing. I would think at the end of this season he might crack the top 10 with a great year.

Those are just the facts. A troll like you would simply say "he is an average QB".

 

[BigD_95]

He makes a compelling case.

I actually agree with him. I like Zeke but we cant pay everyone and with Dak wanting so much - something has to give. Zeke is the one that would have to go. He isnt only a RB but oe that keeps having issues. I rather sign all the other mentioned guys.

The only problem is I think we are super bowl contenders right now and you trade zeke this off-season then Dallas in no longer a contender. I think you trade him next off-season and look for his replacement.

 

[bsbellomy]

Dak's first 3 year resume is arguably one of the best in NFL history. Now if you are comparing him to QB's in their prime then that is just plain stupid. Young QB's take time to develop. Dak is 23 or 24?

If Dak is in the middle of the pack right now, then that is great. Only a QB dunce would think that a 3rd year QB with all the intangibles that Dak has wouldn't get better.

Then of course you can point to the overwhelming resume in only his first 3 years:

-Rookie of the year
-2 pro bowls
-2nd most wins in the last 3 years only to Tom Brady
-Leads the NFL in comeback victories
-3 winning seasons
-Two playoffs
-one playoff victory

ect…..ect…….

I have Dak 12-15 at this point and climbing. I would think at the end of this season he might crack the top 10 with a great year.

Those are just the facts. A troll like you would simply say "he is an average QB".

There you go resorting to using terms like "troll" and "hater". If you think I'm blind towards Daks positive traits you are at least equally blind to his negative.

FYI wins are a team stat, and pro bowls appearances are worthless especially when you get in as an alternate.

It's obvious the Cowboys are taking a step back to reassess Dak and their options in relation to his future.

 

[bsbellomy]

Our roster is rock solid and RB production in the NFL is a volume more then talent thing.

If you get high volume behind the Cowboys Oline you should have a giant year.

Only Garrett could make us RB dependent and he might have I don’t deny that but 31 other team can just put the next guy out there and give them volume and get great production if they want it.

Most teams throw the football though.

Anyways I love Zeke the player.. He’s a total stud but there are other factors as to why I let him go if we get premium compensation.

I guess it's just that time of year that fans start to overrate their own roster in anticipation of the season. I obviously don't think it is as strong as you do.

 

[CATCH17]

I guess it's just that time of year that fans start to overrate their own roster in anticipation of the season. I obviously don't think it is as strong as you do.

It’s a top 5 NFC roster.

We have pretty much all the nuts and bolts. Our only real “weakness” is safety and it’s rarely exposed. If Frederick comes back then I think the Oline is truly elite again.

Compare our roster to other teams and it’s on par with anyone. Our coach is terrible though.

 

[Skillit]

You gotta teach these kids! I remember the good old days...

But they can be cut by the GM at the drop of a hat (or drop of a knee injury)

I don’t blame them wanting to be compensated in a commensurate value with their production because it can all end in an instant. That moralistic highway runs two ways.

But I say trade- Z will have his legs run out from under him at his current usage rate. He won’t be worth whatever we pay in three seasons.

If we can get a decent platoon of backs put together (with one via trade) along with a 2nd and a 4th, I’d take it.

Naturally I want a 1st rounder......but I wouldn’t give that given how little time I think he has left as an elite back.

 

[Corso]

But they can be cut by the GM at the drop of a hat (or drop of a knee injury)

I don’t blame them wanting to be compensated in a commensurate value with their production because it can all end in an instant. That moralistic highway runs two ways.

But I say trade- Z will have his legs run out from under him at his current usage rate. He won’t be worth whatever we pay in three seasons.

If we can get a decent platoon of backs put together (with one via trade) along with a 2nd and a 4th, I’d take it.

Naturally I want a 1st rounder......but I wouldn’t give that given how little time I think he has left as an elite back.

Look guy: I just wanted an excuse to use that gif.
Otherwise I don't really care that much about all this rigmarole about Zeke.
Whatever happens will happen.


Edit: that's a beautiful dog in that avi...

 

[khiladi]

Our roster is rock solid and RB production in the NFL is a volume more then talent thing.

If you get high volume behind the Cowboys Oline you should have a giant year.

Only Garrett could make us RB dependent and he might have I don’t deny that but 31 other team can just put the next guy out there and give them volume and get great production if they want it.

Most teams throw the football though.

Anyways I love Zeke the player.. He’s a total stud but there are other factors as to why I let him go if we get premium compensation.

The problem with that is no team is just stacking the box for any other RB, even with our OL. They didn’t do it when Zeke was out in 2017, when Morris ran decently, and we struggled against the Commanders, Raiders and Giants, teams already out the play-offs and in disarra. Dak only threw for like 93 yards against the Skins. And the 300 yards against the Giants all came in the fourth in busted coverages by the Giants, 80 of them came on a basic slant to Rod Smith with only one safety over the top and a dink and dunk to Beasley that he took fifty yards to scoring territory. 130 yards on two passes in the fourth all basically run and catch dunk off passes.

 

[CATCH17]

The problem with that is no team is just stacking the box for any other RB, even with our OL. They didn’t do it when Zeke was out in 2017, when Morris ran decently, and we struggled against the Commanders, Raiders and Giants, teams already out the play-offs and in disarra. Dak only threw for like 93 yards against the Skins. And the 300 yards against the Giants all came in the fourth in busted coverages by the Giants, 80 of them came on a basic slant to Rod Smith with only one safety over the top and a dink and dunk to Beasley that he took fifty yards to scoring territory. 130 yards on two passes in the fourth all basically run and catch dunk off passes.

We got DeMarco in the 3rd.

The league is filled with star RBs that aren’t first rounders. We can do it again.

Heck if we get enough compensation we might get the best one in the draft.

I’m all for keeping and paying Zeke but if high compensation comes knocking on our door I’ll take it.

He’s still got 5 or 6 premium season left if he stays healthy.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It’s a top 5 NFC roster.

We have pretty much all the nuts and bolts. Our only real “weakness” is safety and it’s rarely exposed. If Frederick comes back then I think the Oline is truly elite again.

Compare our roster to other teams and it’s on par with anyone. Our coach is terrible though.

QB position is not a strength, IMO. We have Dak but we have nothing else. Dak goes down, all that talent goes down with him because we will be a team with one of the most talented rosters in the NFL, easily, but we will still be sitting home.

Coaching is also a weakness. Dak could stay healthy, have a great year, the Defense could be lights out again, Zeke could lead the NFL in rushing again and Cooper could pick right up where he left off and we could still go home early. Coaching is, IMO, this teams biggest weakness and it's not close to me.

JMO