News: Ezekiel Elliot Mysteriously Absent for Friday Camp Conditioning Test

[Corso]

i think it's just mysteriously mysterious kinda of a mystery.

Ah... like how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood kind of thing.

 

[aria]

Pay the man!!!!!

Maybe if he started acting like a man and not an adolescent man child then more people would support this statement.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

He's unquestionably the best player on offense. But the TIMING of this potential holdout, I don't agree with. My understanding is even on his current rookie deal he's still among the highest paid RBs on AAV and has 2 years remaining. This holdout is at least 1 calendar year too soon.

Dak is. We've won without Zeke. Dak runs the offense, plays his best when pressure is highest in the 4th quarter. We can win with Pollard/Weber getting 4.5 yds behind our great run blocking OL.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Maybe if he started acting like a man and not an adolescent man child then more people would support this statement.

It's not Elliott's off the field antics that worry me. Teams can't assemble rosters made up of 53 angels. My problem with this is Zeke still has two years left on his contract, and he's making a ton of money as a former top five pick.

Play out your contract, prove the team can rely on you another 24 months, and then let's talk Todd Gurley-plus money. Elliott is achieving nothing by holding out. The Cowboys hold the advantage; especially if he doesn't show up by August 6.

 

[Tussinman]

$3,853,137 this year
$9,099,000 next year

Thats not enough cheddar? hes under contract on a huge rookie deal. Dallas gave him 16.8 million his rookie year. And has defended his dumb actions relentlessly. Time for him to shut up and play football.

Despite his contract being 3 years old he's
1. Top 3 at his position for both fully guranteed money and total guranteed
and
2. Has next years salary fully protected for injury. He gets a season ending injury this year and he will of make 35 million dollars to only play TWO FULL SEAONS (that's not a typo that's really how much money he would get).

He literally has ZERO leverage

 

[Whyjerry]

Agreed. The Cowboys hold all the cards here. Let's see Pollard or Weber light it up behind this all-pro line; even sign a guy like Jay Ajayi to just put more pressure on Zeke. If he's not here by August 6 the Cowboys "own" him through 2021.

Elliott wasn't going to play in the preseason anyway and he knows the offense, so he's really not doing a thing except racking up daily fines. The daily Zeke watch is going to be the biggest non-story going on for the next few weeks.

I think the Cowboys should do everyone a favor and make an example out of this guy.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Dak is. We've won without Zeke. Dak runs the offense, plays his best when pressure is highest in the 4th quarter. We can win with Pollard/Weber getting 4.5 yds behind our great run blocking OL.

Exactly. Darren McFadden ran for 1,000-plus behind this line in 2015; and he didn't start until October and the Cowboys didn't have a QB that year.

Zeke is a special talent; but this team is only going as far as Dak and the offensive line can take them. Now, there's no question this is a better team with Elliott, but I think Dak has developed to the point he can be the guy to carry this offense.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

The offense runs through him, so he needs to be paid better than his current contract.

We don't know what Moore's offense is yet. Offense runs thru Dak's decision making on what plays to run.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

I think the Cowboys should do everyone a favor and make an example out of this guy.

That's a possibility. Tell him be here by whatever day they want, or do something drastic. Trading him for a 1st round pick would be viable; so long as the Cowboys see enough out of their other RB's in camp.

 

[iceberg]

Ah... like how much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood kind of thing.

how come chuck never gets to play the name game???

 

[aria]

It's not Elliott's off the field antics that worry me. Teams can't assemble rosters made up of 53 angels. My problem with this is Zeke still has two years left on his contract, and he's making a ton of money as a former top five pick.

Play out your contract, prove the team can rely on you another 24 months, and then let's talk Todd Gurley-plus money. Elliott is achieving nothing by holding out. The Cowboys hold the advantage; especially if he doesn't show up by August 6.

Agreed. I’m just saying a lot of people have a problem supporting him when he acts the way he has, his actions certainly haven’t given me a reason to support him.

I’m with you 100% on the contract scenario as well. I’m just saying I would be more supportive of him if he wasn’t such a dunce off the field. Threatening to hold out with 2 years left is a selfish, dbag move, plain and simple and jives with everything else he’s been known for since college.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Why only concern with the players and not the owners side of the contract?

What about owners side? Are you saying they are not paying the player what is agreed to in the contract?

 

[JoeKing]

yeah, has the guy been freeze dried? Hell we cut Dez over a contract, guys are cut all the time re contracts.

Dez got fired over his poor influence in the locker room more than anything else. He single-handedly prevented us from going to the playoffs in 2017 and tried to blame it on others in the locker room rather than taking responsibility for his own miscues. The little factions he created with his locker room hype was extremely divisive.

 

[TwoDeep3]

PJ, I do not think I can change your mind about Zeke. But allow me to suggest this.

You say Dak is a player the team cannot win without. That may be so. I suggest Zeke holds that distinction, as well.

You could be right. I could be right. We both could be right.

But what in the history of this franchise since 2016 suggests that playing without Zeke will produce a bold and effective enough running game to supplant his being on the field.

In other words, like Deion said, Both! That has to be the absolute best option.

To publically express a position that Zeke is expendable, as some do, ignores that the team is so very much better with Zeke. Very much better. And hiring a guy who can get you 1200 yards is not the same as Zeke who can get you close to 1500 or more. The defenses will play your team a great deal different with a lesser running back.

So what is the purpose of the angst against Zeke? Not you, per say, but the populace here that seems filled with a dismissive rancor toward a guy that plays full out every play he is on the field.

I would rather have both of them than just one of them and be forced into a decision whioch one I have to give up.

In pro football you win with play makers.

 

[erod]

Dak is. We've won without Zeke. Dak runs the offense, plays his best when pressure is highest in the 4th quarter. We can win with Pollard/Weber getting 4.5 yds behind our great run blocking OL.

Dak was dreadful without Zeke.

 

[JBond]

25 million is not enough when TGurley has a 57.5 million deal.

Lets be real.

So if your employer is paying you 90k a year but you are suspended from work for being a moron, or kidnapping a girl, you should get a raise despite the contract you signed? Nope.

 

[erod]

 

[Trendnet]

What about owners side? Are you saying they are not paying the player what is agreed to in the contract?

Players are cut all the time with money and years left on the contract. Is it your contention that the owners can terminate the contract at will, and the players shouldn't renegotiate?

 

[Tussinman]

However, the contracts are not guaranteed

His contract is fully guranteed and next year is even fully guranted for both injury and the start of the calendar year

Players are cut all the time with money and years left on the contract. Is it your contention that the owners can terminate the contract at will, and the players shouldn't renegotiate?

This is true but the issue in this situation is Zeke's contract is fully guranteed and he already has next year fully guranteed for injury. That's why people are giving him crap (he has both a top 3 fully guranteed contract and injury protection as of right now).

He gets a career ending injury this season and his total payout will be almost 35 million while only of played 2 full seasons. He's not some underpaid 6th round guy who could be cut tomorrow with no drawback

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

His contract is fully guranteed and next year is even fully guranted for both injury and the start of the calendar year
This is true but the issue in this situation is Zeke's contract is fully guranteed and he already has next year fully guranteed for injury. That's why people are giving him crap (he has both a top 3 fully guranteed contract and injury protection as of right now).

You are talking specifically re him, I was discussing in general. NFL owners cut you in an instant if they can get away with it.