Remember when Alex Smith couldn't lead his talented 49ers to the Super Bowl?

[Irvin88_4life]

I would be looking at keeping this roster stacked and reloading with another rookie QB on a cheap contract if Dak doeant lead the team to a SB this year.

How many rookie QBs do you think it takes the front office to draft until they get it right? If you remember they wanted Lynch, Cook etc. Should we waste young talent or go with the proven guy in Dak.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

Well first I dont have a team ! lol wish I did !
Kap is the one that put politics in the way of his career, and look where it got him.
No team wants him because he would be a major distraction.
Also he was not that good, and now that he hasnt played in awhile, he is rusty and probably out of shape.
The key to a good QB is scouting the college teams for a mahomes type, then arrange it so you can get him when he comes out in the draft.

MaHomes played at texas A&m I think, and being in Texas, jerry should have had him as a top prospect and tanked so he could grab him.
But I dont think the jones boys saw mahomes as anything special. neither did mcClay or JG.
Other nfl teams didnt see a lot in him either, but KC did so they got him.
And instead of forcing him into their offense , they built a offense for him and presto he is super QB now.
I credit KC scouts, coaches , and owner for spotting him and then knowing how to use him.

Often times teams get a good qb but dont use them properly and Dak is one of those, that is forced into a offense rather than
have a offense built for him. JG has a set offense and he forced tony into it, and now dak, and it just doesnt work very well.

Hate to break it to you but teams didn't want Mahomes. Everybody acts like he was a number 1 pick and that's not true. He sat on the bench and learned before his second season

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

How many rookie QBs do you think it takes the front office to draft until they get it right? If you remember they wanted Lynch, Cook etc. Should we waste young talent or go with the proven guy in Dak.

Don't even wanna give White a chance.

 

[Hadenough]

What if Zeke doesn't lead the team (ala vs Rams)? Since many here view him as our best offensive player, if not overrall.

The thing about Zeke is defensive coordinators are bringing down that extra safety and loading 8 men in the box and focusing on him. Its not easy but defenses if good enough can take away your biggest weapon like Zeke. Thats when it is on Dak to beat them over the top. Dak can be good at times but his lack of consistency is why defenses will let him that have the deep mid field. Have you ever noticed when Zeke isnt able to run that puts Dak in a lot of 3rd and 7 or 8 and he really struggles when he only gets one chance to convert those. But on the flip side if Dak is allowed to pass on all three downs he will miss two but then complete a big one for 12 or 15 yds. Sounds like Dak would be better off without Zeke but thats not true. Defensive coordinators will then decide to double Amari and play man to man and Dak is going to be forced into making more accurate throws. I just think that Zeke opens things up for Dak and he needs to take advantage of it.

 

[Hadenough]

How many rookie QBs do you think it takes the front office to draft until they get it right? If you remember they wanted Lynch, Cook etc. Should we waste young talent or go with the proven guy in Dak.

You got a good point there!!
They do have trouble finding QBs but they also never want to use a first round draft pick on any. I dont mind Dak getting paid but it has to be reasonable. If Dak improves by all means sign him up but once these QBs get paid the surrounding talent level begins to erode.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

What about Zeke? Where was he vs the Rams?

You keep harping on this. Zeke is universally considered the best RB in football. Dak is not even considered a top 15 QB by the players who study film and compete against him. You are trying to make a point that knowlegable football people would not agree with. You are better than this.

 

[Cebrin]

Losing to LA had a lot of moving factors. Fredbeard was out, Martin & Smith both played with injuries, rookie lineman getting exposed frequently all year. Beasley also played hurt. No David Irving. Crawford, Collins, & D Law were playing hurt.
We were banged up, and playing a team with an extra week off. Add crap coaching, and you get our exit from the playoffs.
We gave up 5.7 yards per carry. That eats clock, and doesn't allow the opposing offense to establish rhythm, or much opportunity to stay in the game. Especially if you can't hold them to field goals.
Dak played pretty well, and despite our issues stated, we only lost by 8.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

You keep harping on this. Zeke is universally considered the best RB in football. Dak is not even considered a top 15 QB by the players who study film and compete against him. You are trying to make a point that knowlegable football people would not agree with. You are better than this.

lol. You trip on your idea of reality, and i'll do mine. Zeke didn't show up in the biggest game of the season when the team needed him. Period.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

You got a good point there!!
They do have trouble finding QBs but they also never want to use a first round draft pick on any. I dont mind Dak getting paid but it has to be reasonable. If Dak improves by all means sign him up but once these QBs get paid the surrounding talent level begins to erode.

How many years do you need to know? 3 years is plenty and Dak has excel. That's the facts

 

[Sarge]

At the time I said they just needed a play maker at QB to get them over the hump, the bus driver is holding them back. Well AT THE TIME Kaepernick was the guy to do so and he helped get them there.

I fear this is what we're going to find ourselves in, but without the QB change to ever give us a chance to compete. How many more years can we afford to waste, assuming we don't make it to the final game? Let's say we fall short again in 2019, are you all ready to find a guy to take the offense one step further while we still have all pro talent surrounding this position?

QB isn’t the problem...

 

[Hadenough]

How many years do you need to know? 3 years is plenty and Dak has excel. That's the facts

Dak MUST improve in red zone efficiency. Short passing is supposedly his strength but thats where he must show his accuracy in a crowded condensed part of the field.

 

[Fastpitch Dad]

People keep saying things like "Dak is good but not every team can have a Patrick Mahomes as their QB" and the funny thing is, the Chiefs had their own version of Dak and got rid of him.

My point is, the chiefs realized that having a "good enough" bus driving QB will never get you over the hump.

Why can't we be like the Chiefs and get our own Mahomes?

Well Put.

The Chiefs are an excellent example who realized it wasn't gonna happen and pulled the chord.

Now the chance of finding another QB like they did is rare, but it can happen.

 

[Whirlwin]

I remember that they should have kept him he would have choked at the end of the game like Kaepernick did. It was singletary's team and everybody else got credit for it

 

[Whirlwin]

Dak MUST improve in red zone efficiency. Short passing is supposedly his strength but thats where he must show his accuracy in a crowded condensed part of the field.

Don't you think the play-calling had as much as to do with that is anyting.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We already had our Alex Smith. Romo couldn’t lead us to the promise land so Dak is here to save the day and be our Colin Kapernjck.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Don't you think the play-calling had as much as to do with that is anyting.

That was a big part of it. That’s usually on coaching especially when you have a offensive line and running game.

 

[NoLuv4Jerry]

lol. You trip on your idea of reality, and i'll do mine. Zeke didn't show up in the biggest game of the season when the team needed him. Period.

so who in your opinion showed up?

 

[mcmvp]

What if Zeke doesn't lead the team (ala vs Rams)? Since many here view him as our best offensive player, if not overrall.

Give me a break. You seem to think you have a point with all the Zeke bashing you do. Zeke ‘is’ your team’s best player. He’s better at his position than any other Cowboy player is at theirs (with the possible exceptions of Frederick and Smith when they’re healthy). He’s certainly a far better RB than Dak is a QB...would you deny that?

But at the end of the day, the RB position can’t ‘lead’ a team as much as the QB position can.

 

[SlammedZero]

Are we still doing this?

 

[DFWJC]

We already had our Alex Smith. Romo couldn’t lead us to the promise land so Dak is here to save the day and be our Colin Kapernjck.

Thats a terrible comp.
Romo was nothing like Alex Smith......way, way better
And the full scope of what Dak brings to the position is better than what Kaep brought, longer term.