Honor the contract garbage

[OmerV]

What I’m saying is you don’t need a top paid RB, especially one on a 4-5 year deal to win games.

If you want to have an offense with a heavy run element, a middle of the road RB wouldn’t exactly promote that would it?

If Zeke signed a 4-5 year deal it wouldn’t all be guaranteed.

 

[jay94]

We have paid the oline top dollar, can we quit with we have to pay everyone mantra. There are 53 players. Every year rb rookies crush it. Wise up to the trend at let Zeke move on from his tantrum.

 

[OmerV]

We have paid the oline top dollar, can we quit with we have to pay everyone mantra. There are 53 players. Every year rb rookies crush it. Wise up to the trend at let Zeke move on from his tantrum.

How many are able to lead the NFL in rushing consistently? Obviously we can win without the RB having to be the rushing leader, but the talent level just isn’t as easy to find as you imagine.

Mind you, I’m not saying we should buckle and pay whatever Zeke wants, but there is benefit to a RB that good.

 

[aria]

If you want to have an offense with a heavy run element, a middle of the road RB wouldn’t exactly promote that would it?

If Zeke signed a 4-5 year deal it wouldn’t all be guaranteed.

First of all, with all this support for Zeke sitting out this early and minimizing the value of contracts, who’s to say he doesn’t sign a new contract, then decides he wants more two years down the road and sits again?

Define middle of the road, here’s a list of the teams with the most rushing yards but pay attention to yards average. Why are there several teams with higher yards per attempt but have “middle of the road running backs”? On the other hand, why are there teams with more overall rushing yards that don’t have elite running backs?

How on earth is that possible without the highest paid, top running back in the league?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/rushing/position/...

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

While that may be true IMO, being a human being>>>professional athlete. IN this country our less fortunate are the voiceless. You know who comes from the less foruntate? A lot of these athletes. So to expect them to grow into adulthood and not care about the social issue effecting their community? That's not right. And IMO, it takes a certain scumbag to turn his back on his community just because he was awarded a few million.

In regards to "your money"....the NFL doesn't force you to spend your money on this product. But they do know that you will continue to spend your money on something. These guys tear their bodies up for a living all for your pleasure. All for you to be able to sit on the couch on Sunday's and watch these guys destroy their bodies and brains. If they chose in their spare time to speak up on social issues then they have that right.

This is policitcal. Again, I don't need people telling me what they think about whatever issue. I can get that 24x7 on almost any channel on the dial. I just don't need that from them and this whole, "You know who comes from less fortunate" crap, I don't need either. You know who else comes from "less fortunate"? Me, and I'm not a Professional Athlete. I don't care to hear what an uniformed twenty something year old thinks about the plight of whatever cause, when they don't even have enough years on earth to truly experience what they are talking about. Besides which, nobody is stopping them from being involved but do it on their time, not on mine.

Your opinion about money, well lets see, you go shopping for groceries yes? When you go, you expect to be able to spend your money on whatever products you want and not be told what you can or can't eat correct? Well, I expect the same from the NFL. I don't care about what they think. I want to watch my team play good Ball. That's it. These guys are very well compensated for what they do and if they don't want to do it, they don't have to. They are in a business and that business is to play ball. If they can't figure that out, then they can go wreck their bodies moving a shovel or cart cement around or tar a roof. There are lots of people who tear their body up for a paycheck. That's why it's called work. NFL players are no different or better then any other person. Play ball, be professional and that's it. None of this has anything to do with the topic of the thread BTW.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Spotrac.

Can you post the link you are referring to?

 

[HungryLion]

I appreciate your response and tried to respond to you privately. For some reason it was telling me my response had to be less then 420 characters and would only let me post like 5 lines of my message. Which distorted my meaning.

Not sure how to further this discussion where we wont get in trouble.

No worries. I agree. I don’t really want to discuss politics on this board.

Just was giving a response about some of the things people mean when they refer to “systemic oppression”.

I don’t think the existence of any systemic oppression absolves people from personal responsibility. People still have the power to make their own choices to try and overcome any barriers that may be there to achieving individual success and improving their standing in life.

Though, I do think it’s important to remember that everyone is playing poker but doesn’t have the same cards dealt to them at the start of the hand.

But that also not just a racial thing either. It happens to people based on their parents economic circumstance, the community they’re born into, access to education/healthcare, etc.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

This is policitcal. Again, I don't need people telling me what they think about whatever issue. I can get that 24x7 on almost any channel on the dial. I just don't need that from them and this whole, "You know who comes from less fortunate" crap, I don't need either. You know who else comes from "less fortunate"? Me, and I'm not a Professional Athlete. I don't care to hear what an uniformed twenty something year old thinks about the plight of whatever cause, when they don't even have enough years on earth to truly experience what they are talking about. Besides which, nobody is stopping them from being involved but do it on their time, not on mine.

Your opinion about money, well lets see, you go shopping for groceries yes? When you go, you expect to be able to spend your money on whatever products you want and not be told what you can or can't eat correct? Well, I expect the same from the NFL. I don't care about what they think. I want to watch my team play good Ball. That's it. These guys are very well compensated for what they do and if they don't want to do it, they don't have to. They are in a business and that business is to play ball. If they can't figure that out, then they can go wreck their bodies moving a shovel or cart cement around or tar a roof. There are lots of people who tear their body up for a paycheck. That's why it's called work. NFL players are no different or better then any other person. Play ball, be professional and that's it. None of this has anything to do with the topic of the thread BTW.

Shut up and play. Got it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Shut up and play. Got it.

I wish they would.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I wish they would.

I know you do. Like I said previously....if Jim Brown, Ali and Kareem just shut up and play who knows where these athletes would be. True hero’s.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I know you do. Like I said previously....if Jim Brown, Ali and Kareem just shut up and play who knows where these athletes would be. True hero’s.

Yeah, talking about athletes that I am not at all that sure you ever watched play. If you had, then you would know that none of those guys ever came close to getting paid like Athletes do today. They played at a time when money wasn't nearly as good so I can see why they might have had a plight but what I think is happening here is that you are trying to mix in BS that is not part of the discussion really. I mean, Ali, Kareem and Brown are not really good comparisons here. I also don't understand why you bring up issues not related to contracts. Who cares what any of these guys political opinions are? That's not the discussion here and that particular issue doesn't belong in this discussion. Lastly, I would recommend that you don't look at Athletes and hold them up as "True Hero's". A lot more people have done a lot more in life then what professional athletes have to be considered hero's. But of course, that's just my opinion and you are certainly free to believe what you wish.

 

[Reid1boys]

I know you do. Like I said previously....if Jim Brown, Ali and Kareem just shut up and play who knows where these athletes would be. True hero’s.

yes, But Brown, Ali and Kareem, ( Kareem is one of the most thoughful, well spoken athletes of my lifetime. I love listening to him) none of those guys sat out for money. They wree the true sports stars that worried about society and the plight of black people. They had more pull and a spotlight on them that no other African Americans of their time had. Those guys were true Americans that took a stand for things.... unlike many of today's "Heroes."

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

yes, But Brown, Ali and Kareem, ( Kareem is one of the most thoughful, well spoken athletes of my lifetime. I love listening to him) none of those guys sat out for money. They wree the true sports stars that worried about society and the plight of black people. They had more pull and a spotlight on them that no other African Americans of their time had. Those guys were true Americans that took a stand for things.... unlike many of today's "Heroes."

They didn’t sit out for money but they stood for what they believed in. They knew their worth and if someone didn’t want to pay them their worth they were out on notice.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

They didn’t sit out for money but they stood for what they believed in. They knew their worth and if someone didn’t want to pay them their worth they were out on notice.

And I encourage Zeke to do the same. Nobody said he didn't have that right but holding Zeke up to Ali and Brown and Kareem is laughable, to be honest. You do realize that Zeke got paid more then Brown and Kareem did in their entire careers, before he ever took one game snap for the Cowboys right? With Ali, it's a little different because you really don't know how much he actually made. I mean, if you know anything about boxing, then you know that fighters get paid but then they have to pay out their camp so it's hard to know how much money he actually made but no matter. It's insulting to compare these men to Zeke and his situation. I mean, seriously, it's an insult. These guys stood for important issues. Zeke is standing for what, other then getting paid more money before his last contract is up. Nope, this doesn't play with me. Zeke is not close to any of those guys. Sorry, that's a fail, as far as I am concerned.

 

[Bob-Lillys-War]

We have paid the oline top dollar, can we quit with we have to pay everyone mantra. There are 53 players. Every year rb rookies crush it. Wise up to the trend at let Zeke move on from his tantrum.

 

[CowboyRoy]

No worries. I agree. I don’t really want to discuss politics on this board.

Just was giving a response about some of the things people mean when they refer to “systemic oppression”.

I don’t think the existence of any systemic oppression absolves people from personal responsibility. People still have the power to make their own choices to try and overcome any barriers that may be there to achieving individual success and improving their standing in life.

Though, I do think it’s important to remember that everyone is playing poker but doesn’t have the same cards dealt to them at the start of the hand.

But that also not just a racial thing either. It happens to people based on their parents economic circumstance, the community they’re born into, access to education/healthcare, etc.

Very well said. Personal responsibility. And people are born poor all over the place every day of every type.

You also cant blame the new generation for the actions of a previous generation.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

And I encourage Zeke to do the same. Nobody said he didn't have that right but holding Zeke up to Ali and Brown and Kareem is laughable, to be honest. You do realize that Zeke got paid more then Brown and Kareem did in their entire careers, before he ever took one game snap for the Cowboys right? With Ali, it's a little different because you really don't know how much he actually made. I mean, if you know anything about boxing, then you know that fighters get paid but then they have to pay out their camp so it's hard to know how much money he actually made but no matter. It's insulting to compare these men to Zeke and his situation. I mean, seriously, it's an insult. These guys stood for important issues. Zeke is standing for what, other then getting paid more money before his last contract is up. Nope, this doesn't play with me. Zeke is not close to any of those guys. Sorry, that's a fail, as far as I am concerned.

I said they stood for getting what they were worth. Zeke is the 230th highest paid player. He’s not getting his worth.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I said they stood for getting what they were worth. Zeke is the 230th highest paid player. He’s not getting his worth.

Its called paying your dues. Rookie scale contract. Players and owners negotiated it and agreed upon it. Those are the rules.

 

[DuncanIso]

Its called paying your dues. Rookie scale contract. Players and owners negotiated it and agreed upon it. Those are the rules.

Zeke has a new rule.

Its called Im not playing until I get paid.