How many would take a pay cut?

Sydla

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The point is agreeing to take less than what you are worth to help the company/team


Nobody on here would do that, but yet are the loudest ones saying thats what Zeke should do

If you believe the reports, both have Top 5 contracts on the table.

That seems fair for both.

And here's another reality. There are players in this league who have done this........... taken a bit less to help the team. So let's not act like it's unheard of or crazy. So the OP's premise was a failure.
 

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If I was making several million dollars to play a game I love and possibly win one of the best trophies in all of sports that I’ve dreamed of since a kid, I would easily sacrifice some millions. The greed of some of these guys is unbelievable, they will all make several million over the course of 5-10 years, be set for life and retired by 30-35 and they’re going to quibble over 5-10 million when a lot of them will be making 60/70/80 million+ with a chance to make more.

Zeke already has ~25, probably had a chance to make another 45-50 guaranteed plus an annual salary and bonuses and he’s gonna hold out over 10 million? Screw him, let him make his money playing for some crap team the rest of his career and see how happy he really is. If he were a true competitor, that would eat him alive. I’d rather win and lose money then lose and make more money, especially when you’re talking about the overall amount these guys make. But I guess the price of drugs and lawyers isn’t cheap so Zeke needs to look out for his future.
 

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If you believe the reports, both have Top 5 contracts on the table.

That seems fair for both.

And here's another reality. There are players in this league who have done this........... taken a bit less to help the team. So let's not act like it's unheard of or crazy. So the OP's premise was a failure.
We arent talking about players in this league.

We are talking about people on this site that say Zeke is selfish.

Posters are the selfish ones that are shaming a man for taking less than he is worth

Zeke is worth more than “Top 5” pay at his position. He also plays a position that has probably the shortest shelf life in the NFL. He would be crazy to take less than hes worth just to help the owner, especially when there are other players on this team who are overpaid (Crawford, Collins)
 

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Put things into perspective - if someone making 50k a year is asked to take a cut to, say 30k, no that isn't feasible. On the flip side, if you are making 30 million and are asked to cut to 27 million, is that really noticeable?

Taking a pay cut for a professional athlete shouldn't be that big of a deal. Normally, the ones refusing to take a cut are only playing for the money anyway and don't care about winning.
 

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Can’t see how anyone can compare what we on here earn from our jobs, and what a couple of the highest paid players in the NFL would earn...
Both Dak and Zeke will get a signing bonus so large, that it alone should be enough to last them and their families for the rest of their lives.
 

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Put things into perspective - if someone making 50k a year is asked to take a cut to, say 30k, no that isn't feasible. On the flip side, if you are making 30 million and are asked to cut to 27 million, is that really noticeable?

Taking a pay cut for a professional athlete shouldn't be that big of a deal. Normally, the ones refusing to take a cut are only playing for the money anyway and don't care about winning.
It actually is a big deal.

Taking less money to appease the Billion Dollar owners IS a big deal.

If Zeke does it, then guess what happens to future players that are up for new deals....
 

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This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.
me, i'm all for it. All depends on area and situation. Not a real good question for working stiffs. We are talking about the gifted group here. If I could see company growth and stability then cool. I'm a team player. I haven't ask for a raise in 5 years. Course my wife and I live a simple life and make 6 figures together. long way from these guys ,but we are good.
 

acr731

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It actually is a big deal.

Taking less money to appease the Billion Dollar owners IS a big deal.

Like I said, its only a big deal to those who are playing solely for a pay check and couldn't care less about about winning championships. Dak and Zeke are showing that they belong to that category.

Tom Brady has taken several pay cuts because winning means more than his bank account balance.
 

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We arent talking about players in this league.

We are talking about people on this site that say Zeke is selfish.

Posters are the selfish ones that are shaming a man for taking less than he is worth

Zeke is worth more than “Top 5” pay at his position. He also plays a position that has probably the shortest shelf life in the NFL. He would be crazy to take less than hes worth just to help the owner, especially when there are other players on this team who are overpaid (Crawford, Collins)

But other players in the league are the more important data point. Because they are his comps, his peers.

The underlying premise is no person would take a bit less to help out a team (or a company).

That's bullspit. Players do it all the time.

So yeah, I think it's perfectly fair to say Elliott is being a bit selfish here when there are other players who were in his situation and took a bit less and didn't hold out. Shoot, Prescott probably has more of a reason to hold out and he's in camp practicing.

How is he worth more than Top 5 money? Because you think so? He's arguably not the best back in football. He's not the Tom Brady of running backs or the Aaron Donald of RBs.
 

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Being offered a contract that puts you top 5 in the NFL isn’t a pay cut. Those offers the Cowboys offered should’ve been taken by the big 3, IMO.
 

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This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.

Here's the huge flaw in your example. Even at a pay cut for these players make enough to live very comfortably. If the average Joe has to take as your example a $4 an hour pay cut that very well could effect Joe's quality of life. Besides usually players asked to take a pay cut and don't accept it usually end up getting released.
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Sydla

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It actually is a big deal.

Taking less money to appease the Billion Dollar owners IS a big deal.

If Zeke does it, then guess what happens to future players that are up for new deals....

Again, players have taken less to help teams out before and it didn't have this ripple effect you want to claim this will have.

And it isn't taking less to appease the billion dollar owner. It's taking less so they can stretch their cap out and possibly add another name player down the road either in FA or give one of their own a contract that they might not be able to do.
 

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What paycut are you talking about? They're all being offered more than they're making right now.
 

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This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.

4 dollars an hour vs 4 Million, not the same comparison.
 

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You do realize it rings a little hollow comparing people making in the millions to hourly employees?

You do realize it rings hollow when people complain about situation and there is no indication they would do otherwise?
 

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If I was making several million dollars to play a game I love and possibly win one of the best trophies in all of sports that I’ve dreamed of since a kid, I would easily sacrifice some millions. The greed of some of these guys is unbelievable, they will all make several million over the course of 5-10 years, be set for life and retired by 30-35 and they’re going to quibble over 5-10 million when a lot of them will be making 60/70/80 million+ with a chance to make more.

Zeke already has ~25, probably had a chance to make another 45-50 guaranteed plus an annual salary and bonuses and he’s gonna hold out over 10 million? Screw him, let him make his money playing for some crap team the rest of his career and see how happy he really is. If he were a true competitor, that would eat him alive. I’d rather win and lose money then lose and make more money, especially when you’re talking about the overall amount these guys make. But I guess the price of drugs and lawyers isn’t cheap so Zeke needs to look out for his future.

Dont forget to factor in what it cost the Cowboys/Jerry to go up to bat for Zeke every off-season when he can't stay out of trouble.
 

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How about this, offer Zeke #1 running back money, with caveats that if he gets arrested and/or misses any games for suspension, it reverts back to his rookie deal and Jerry pockets the difference.
 

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I wouldn’t take a pay cut. I’d be willing to entertain a slightly less massive raise in order to retain other quality employees.
 
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