How many would take a pay cut?

Sydla

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Thats a different conversation buddy

The Front Office WANTS to pay Zeke. They are mad because they want him to take a deal that THEY want.

Stephen’s goofy behind was the one that said contract negotiations would Start at Todd Gurley’s deal, but now everyone is mad at Zeke because the Cowboys reneged on their word?

Interesting choice of words here considering Elliott is essentially reneging on the deal he signed. He's still under contract and holding out and refusing to play under his existing contract.
 

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Its obvious he isn't concerned because he clearly isn't playing the game to win, he only plays to get paid.
How isnt he playing the game to win?

Is he not training hard to be the best player he can be?

Like i said, assembling a championship roster isn't and shouldnt be his concern....
 

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The point is agreeing to take less than what you are worth to help the company/team


Nobody on here would do that, but yet are the loudest ones saying thats what Zeke should do
Straight up not true.
 

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This is to all the posters who want players to take a pay cut.

If your boss came up to you and said would you take a $4 an hour pay cut so he can hire a couple extra employees so that more work could get done more efficiently. But if you don't take a pay cut they will have to lay off a few employees. So who's taking that pay cut?

I understand some make less then others but I know some here make good money. So who's taking the pay cut?

This is for all the posters who want players to take a pay cuts for the greater good of the team, the same team that will eventually cut you to save money.
And it's not a pay cut. It's less of a raise.

This question should be: If you were making 6.9 million season w/ a contract that has two years left on it, would you just quit showing up for work?
 

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I will just say this. I wish I could have the opportunity to take that kind of paycut. Some of these guys end up making 100 million. That’s unreal to me.

If I had already made 20-25 million and was offered gurly money then I would sign it. Or even a little less if the guaranteed money is there. That’s where it’s at anyways. Elliot’s signing bonus for this contract will likely be more in one check than what he is made in 3 years. And he will still be young when the contract is up.
 

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Interesting choice of words here considering Elliott is essentially reneging on the deal he signed. He's still under contract and holding out and refusing to play under his existing contract.
Straw man
 

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Is he not training hard to be the best player he can be?


Please....... he's only training because he knows he'll need to keep in shape for the next team stupid enough to cave to his demands. There's a good chance Jerry dumps his sorry butt, so he's training for the next destination. Assuming he's really training in the first place and not partying his butt off instead.
 

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None of the players you listed held their team hostage by demanding new contracts when they still had two years left on their current deal. None of them held out, they showed up for work when expected to do so.
Lies

Michael Thomas held out until Saints reached a deal with him

Russell Wilson threatened to hold out until Seahawks reached a deal with him
 

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By all accounts, Zeke’s new deal will be more than what he currently makes. But less than what he wants. He is not being asked to take a pay cut per se.
 

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Please....... he's only training because he knows he'll need to keep in shape for the next team stupid enough to cave to his demands. There's a good chance Jerry dumps his sorry butt, so he's training for the next destination. Assuming he's really training in the first place and not partying his butt off instead.
Oh ok, I see im arguing with a bitter fan

I wont waste anymore time with you
 

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The better question is.....If you know your only working for 5 more years at 13 million a year, are you willing to forfeit one year at 13 million trying to prove your worth more?
 

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Straw man

LOL Strawman?

That makes no sense.

You accused the Cowboys of reneging on their word but technically that’s what Zeke is doing holding out and refusing to play under his deal.

Just because you want to pretend it’s not the same thing doesn’t make it so.

And further, what Jones said about Gurley was something he said to the media. It was hardly a contract promise made to Elliott.

It also was said before Elliott looked like a doofus bumping a security guard while drunk.
 

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lol..... this one is funny. That's like almost asking the 7/11 clerk, what would the benefit be of acquiring 5 million dollars?
 

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Tom Brady has taken several pay cuts because winning means more than his bank account balance.

and because he left more money for the rest of his team, he's been able to win more Super Bowls than any QB likely ever will again and as a result he'll print money for the rest of his life from this unprecedented success.

He understands the sacrifice is more of an investment than a pay cut and I believe he wouldn't do anything differently if his wife was an unknown house mom that stayed home to raise the kids and made zero $$.

If jeri was the so called great salesman people make him out to be, he'd convince his best players to spread the wealth around the rest of the team
 

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LOL Strawman?

That makes no sense.

You accused the Cowboys of reneging on their word but technically that’s what Zeke is doing holding out and refusing to play under his deal.

Just because you want to pretend it’s not the same thing doesn’t make it so.

And further, what Jones said about Gurley was something he said to the media. It was hardly a contract promise made to Elliott.
Yes Strawman. You do know what that is right?


My whole argument was that taking less money is not normal not only in professional sports, but in regular jobs as well.

You ignored that and brought up how Zeke isnt honoring his contract LOL
 

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I'm pro player when it comes to contracts. They're in the 1 percent of the 1 percent of the population who can perform this game at this level, and deserve their share of the enormous revenue pie that the sport brings in.

But as it specifically relates to our trio, here are my thoughts:

1) Cooper is wise to try to maximize his contract demands by putting forth a huge 2019 season. He can't command nearly what he wants based on his current career statistics, in my opinion. I don't see Cooper giving the Cowboys a discount, nor do I really think he owes us one.

2) Zeke is wise to demand more money now because he's a depreciating asset. A monster 1,700-yard season could theoretically lessen his worth. He's no different than a new car driven off the lot. However -- and this is a big however -- I think he owes the Jones family for the way they've stood by him. This guy has been just short of a complete disaster off the field. It's rather amazing, not to mention disappointing, that that seems to be forgotten now that it's time to redo his contract.

3) Dak has waited his turn and has spent 3+ seasons being paid well below the level of a high-caliber starting QB. But I think he's being extremely shortsighted if his reported demands are accurate. Let's be real, Dak's value is in his ability to win and lead. In my opinion he's wiser to leave a few million on the table in hopes that that money will be turned toward a better roster, than bleeding every penny from the Cowboys now and risking a deteriorating roster. Because I don't see Dak getting a second contract from the franchise if the latter scenario plays out. Where as he could have long, lucrative career here if the talent around him remains at an acceptable level.
 

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Yes Strawman. You do know what that is right?


My whole argument was that taking less money is not normal not only in professional sports, but in regular jobs as well.

You ignored that and brought up how Zeke isnt honoring his contract LOL

No I brought up Zeke honoring his contract when you stated the Cowboys reneged on him. Go back to the post. I even highlighted the part of your post I was responding to. EDIT: You would have had to click to expand your post to see the part I bolded, which you may not have done. Sorry for the confusion.

But you, technically, were the one who brought up the concept of reneging first, not me.
 

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and because he left more money for the rest of his team, he's been able to win more Super Bowls than any QB likely ever will again and as a result he'll print money for the rest of his life from this unprecedented success.

He understands the sacrifice is more of an investment than a pay cut and I believe he wouldn't do anything differently if his wife was an unknown house mom that stayed home to raise the kids and made zero $$.

If jeri was the so called great salesman people make him out to be, he'd convince his best players to spread the wealth around the rest of the team
Not True



You ever think hes won the most Super Bowls, because maybe just maybe he is the Greatest QB of all time and also has the Greatest Coach of all-time?

Besides maybe 2007, the Patriots have never been known to have the most talented roster
 
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